Before you vote understand this.
Caleb Plant turned down a fight offer that would have seen him get his ask (10 million) to fight on Dazn. That deal was denied by Caleb Plant. (its the reason Canelo was forced to try and negotiate a deal with PBC that ultimately failed and saw Caleb Plant miss out on this fight)
Question #1)
If Al Haymon was only Caleb Plant advisor/manager Al Haymon would have advised Caleb Plant to take the Dazn deal for biggest paycheck of his career.
True or False
Question #2)
Since Al Haymon is the Owner of "PBC" boxing brand with network deals and sponsorships and other legal binding contracts and is also Caleb Plant advisor/manager Al Haymon advised Caleb Plant to refuse the Dazn deal to leverage Canelo to come to Al Haymon owned "PBC" boxing Brand so it can benefit Al Haymon and his residual business dealings on the PBC back-end. Al Haymon advised Caleb Plant in Al Haymon's own Interest rather than in Caleb Plant's interest?
True or False
Both are true and literally everybody knows it even if some won't want to admit it.
I don't like the PBC, some morons claim its cuz I'm a racist even though they don't know what colour I am, they just presume I am white but the reality is things like this happening all too often.
Everybody can be guilty of it time to time Top Tank are certainly guilty of it and I can't stand Bob Arum either but the PBC are at it all the time and considering they have such a good stable of fighters it's very frustrating seeing so many good fights go down the drain.
Especially when alot of these PBC guys like so shout loud and proud that they are network free agents and their own bosses
How exactly did the canelo/ Bivol fight break down? Was that Al? Or was that canelo?
How did the plant / canelo fight breakdown? Are you going with your own made up story, or what has been reported in the news?
It's what the Ali act tried to prevent. Haymon has found a work around and the fanboys defend it.
No one defends it. Guys like you continue to make this claim even thought the GBP lawsuit was thrown out for lack of evidence and TR used there lawsuit just to leverage more dough for Manny.
No disrespect but At some point you have to accept that since you’re not a legal expert your interpretation isn’t correct.
as to question 1- False.We don’t know. Fighters turn deals down all the time, regardless of the money. Most of us, me included, think plant is stupid for turning down $10 mil as it’s the most he ever made in his career.
I posted Manny, who at the time had made a max purse of $28, was crazy for turning down $40 mil no ppv. He ended up making 3 times that down the road. Now plant isn’t Manny but what if he makes much more down the road?
to question 2- Mostly True. Managers often advise fighters not to take fights on a network where their opponent had a deal with that network. Why would this be any different ?
With Haymon owning pbc it’s a clear conflict of interest since he is in competition with DAZN. He surely isn’t going to advise any of his clients to fight on DAZN and possibly help them gain subscriptions.
Most of us think Canelo is gonna wax Plant easily. Haymon isn’t stupid so he figures this as well so he’s probably trying to get another fight or 2 out of canelo.
So you’re saying Al Haymon is an arsehole for not letting Plant take the DAZN offer? Is that Haymon’s fault or Plant’s fault?
I'm saying its Plants, Haymons, Canelos, Reynosos, Hearns, and every single person involved in making this fight happens fault. It good and damn time for one side or the other to put their big boy pants on and say this is for undisputed at 168 and get it done. I'm not blaming one side or the other IM BLAMING EVERYBODY INVOLVED.
True, I actually created this thread because of the arguments I seen people making that Canelo should have no issue going to PBC cause he is a free agent well so is Caleb Plant.
Caleb Plant was the B-side, Caleb Plant is the one who might only have 1 chance at making this type of money, so I personally believe he should have done what is best for himself and secure this fight which imo means he should have gone over to Dazn and take the money instead of possibly losing out all in the name of the betterment of another mans organization, your family is your organization should be looking out for that first.
I completely agree I am a Caleb Plant fan we are virtually from the same hometown and it saddens me to see boxing politics and pissing contests getting in the way of this fight. There should be NO reason this fight isnt happening!
In all fairness I think Plant shouldve done whatever the hell it took for the fight to go on. I will say EVERY network and promotion company is out for themselves. None of them truly care about their stable of fighters on a personal level or what we as fans think. They care about their bank rolls first.
True, I actually created this thread because of the arguments I seen people making that Canelo should have no issue going to PBC cause he is a free agent well so is Caleb Plant.
Caleb Plant was the B-side, Caleb Plant is the one who might only have 1 chance at making this type of money, so I personally believe he should have done what is best for himself and secure this fight which imo means he should have gone over to Dazn and take the money instead of possibly losing out all in the name of the betterment of another mans organization, your family is your organization should be looking out for that first.
In all fairness I think Plant shouldve done whatever the hell it took for the fight to go on. I will say EVERY network and promotion company is out for themselves. None of them truly care about their stable of fighters on a personal level or what we as fans think. They care about their bank rolls first.
These are the facts in this thread^^^^^^^^
In all fairness I think Plant shouldve done whatever the hell it took for the fight to go on. I will say EVERY network and promotion company is out for themselves. None of them truly care about their stable of fighters on a personal level or what we as fans think. They care about their bank rolls first.
Both are true and literally everybody knows it even if some won't want to admit it.
I don't like the PBC, some morons claim its cuz I'm a racist even though they don't know what colour I am, they just presume I am white but the reality is things like this happening all too often.
Everybody can be guilty of it time to time Top Tank are certainly guilty of it and I can't stand Bob Arum either but the PBC are at it all the time and considering they have such a good stable of fighters it's very frustrating seeing so many good fights go down the drain.
Especially when alot of these PBC guys like so shout loud and proud that they are network free agents and their own bosses