No offense, but who gives a shit about what Greg Peon has to say about anything. This bitch has proved that he is biased towards fighters who give him interviews time and time again. He was put on blast for saying that Jones beat Tarver the first time and then changed his opinion while sucking Tarver in a interview.
This list belongs in toilet with Leon so I can take a dump on him.
Intelligent post Russian Arm. Wlad beats up a lot of undersized, shot black fighters. But loses to the first live body he fights in Lame Lamon Brewster and gets KO'd. Gets knocked down and probably knocked out by yet another lame black heavyweight in DaVarryl Williamson. No body cares about Wlad or those bums. They're horrible fighters the whole lot of them.
Trinidad vs Mayorga...hands down!!!!!!!!!
Hands down? Not a chance.
Trinidad -Mayorga was a bigger event and had a better storyline with Tito's comeback.
But that was a 6-2 fight in rounds for Trinidad.
Marquez-Pacman was two way action for 12 rounds with lots of suspense.
There wasn't much doubt after the first round that Trinidad was going to turn out Mayorga's lights.
@borikua
That pic of Vida Guerra in your avatar just caused me to have an accideent.
One of my ex's looks exactly like her! What a hot piece of tail. I'd like to own her :D
Jameel McCline???? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
The same McCLine who lost to Sedrick Fields? Whose signature victory was that KO of a shot Micheal Grant and a 10 round struggle with an inactive, out of shape 290-pound Shannon Briggs? It took Wlad 10 rounds to get rid of him. The same McCline vs. a prime Lennox, Tyson, Bowe, Holyfield lasts about 2 rounds maximum.
Luckily for Wlad, McCline was as afraid of Wlad as Wlad was afraid of him.
Try watching the fights you talk about. you obviously dont
Understand this...
You are our property. If you don't listen you get dealt with. I tell my babies mommas that all the time. They cook, clean, give me foot rubs and even bathe me when I tell them to. That's what girls need to learn. How to be better to serve a man who brings home the bacon. I bring plenty
First of all
This is boxing. Being bright and intelligent don't mean sh!t
Their main job is to win and to be entertaining for the paying public in the process. Chris Byrd is bright and intelligent. That don't mean sh!t to me. He still sucks to watch and I hate him. We're talking about FIGHTERS here. Not a babysitter or your daughter's prom date. Who gives a f&ck!
If you're not entertaining, you end up most of your career like Hopkins and Wright. Very good but nobody's tearing down the gates to see you therefore you don't get the big money fights.
That said, HBO signed Wlad and began pushing him as the future of boxing. Everyone was talking about how he could beat Lennox less than 2 years ago. Now he's basically a white version of Michael Grant.
No confidence, no chin and little heart.
Vitali is the best of a sh!t lot of heavyweights. That doesn't say anything about him as a fighter, but his division sucks. Therefore whoever is the "champ" will get criticized heavily. Roy Jones, James Toney and Chris Byrd just a year ago were 3 of the top 5 or 6 heavyweights in boxing. All three were once MIDDLEWEIGHTS.
Therefore the conclusion is they all basically suck.
Andrew Golota, if he has the poise to not snap under pressure, would shame Vitali.
Wlad needs to quit. He struggles and gets knocked down by a bum Davarryl williamson who "Sloppy" Joe Mesi KO'd in one round.
You never tried to be nice to me. More lies? Me leave?...Dont think so; I was here long before you smelled the place up, and make no mistake, I'll be here long after your sorry ass is gone.
I disagreed with your assessment of Antonio Tarver (a fighter who I like very much) and you get upset with me. I said nothing personal about you. That said, I'm trying to keep it to boxing from this post forward. You and your dyke friends keep bringing up my picture. Don't be mad because you can't have me. :p
I should've posted the one of me in a G-string. You'd be sending me your phone number :D
Touch of Stiff is a journeyman. Joe Mesi had the courage to KO him and took him out in one round.
Wlad not only gets in a tough fight with him but gets knocked down cleanly in a competitive fight.
Joe Mesi is garbage and showed more assertiveness and willingness to win than Wlad. That's sad.
As for the Shufford fight, that's when I began to lose faith in wlad. The fight with McCline did it. Both of those guys were terrified of Wlad and instead of putting them out of their misery he played it safe and carried them.
That's what got him KTFOd vs. Brewster and what almost got him KTFOd vs. Williamson.
Put a scared fighter in front of Lennox Lewis (which Golota was that night) and he gets his clock cleaned in 2 rounds. Put a scared fighter n front of a prime Mike Tyson, he doesn't make it out of the round.
But with Wlad they last 7 or 10 rounds in a boring fight. Why is that? Wlad doesn't have the confidence or trust in himself. So he does nothing. Golota freaks out too, but at least he hits you in the balls.
Wlad won a disputed decision vs. a guy in Williamson who not only has no chin (ask Willie Champman and Joe Mesi, a pair of club level heavyweights) but has no skill. Sloppy jab, really bad technique and about half the size of Wlad. The fact that fight is even competitive is a disgrace considering Wlad was "the next champ."
I can only assume you did not see the fight. If you did you shut the f&ck up about Wlad.
Wlad was the heir apparent to topple Lewis (like Grant), Wlad turned out to have no chin (like Grant), he's a big phsyically impressive fighter (like Grant), he has a good punch (like Grant) but has no confidence (like Grant) and should be mowing down a guy with the size and skill of Williamson. Actually, Grant got off the canvas and came back to stop Golota. He's shown more heart than Wlad. So I guess you're right. Bad comparison. Wlad hasn't even made it far enough to earn a shot at the title like Grant!
You're an apologist.
I bet you bought the explanation that Wlad lost to Brewster (yet another garbage heavyweight) because of the "vaseline" theory. The only place there's vaseline is between your buttcheeks from taking it so hard from your hero.
Pansyboy,
McCline was considered the "next big thing out there" by whom? he wasn't an HBO fighter. That's the sign of a fighter whose considered that. Wlad had the HBO contract before hhe lost to Sanders. McCline was considered a big guy with potential who was decent. He was NEVER considered a sure bet to be a champion in the future. Wlad was. Get your facts straight. You're clearly a) not American/dont live in the USA or b) you don't have HBO to actually see the telecasts.
McCline was a top 10 heavyweight. he wasn't top 5. Stop exaggerating
Some fair points there, I wouldn't say his chin is that good though, and he has no heart whatsoever and is severly lacking in mental strength, he might have enough to get past Ruiz (jesus I hope he does), but that'l be his highlight
His chin used to be good. it's been cracked a few times. But I think with Golota its more about his confidence. He folds under pressure. I dont know if he can ever change that about himself. I don't trust him. i'd never bet on him. But just skillwise, he's light years above most heavyweights. He mixes off speed punches, he knows how to take the power off and how to use the jab high and low and knows how to mix in straight with looping punches. Opponents have no idea where the punches are coming from. He's not a one-two then hug type of heavyweight like Ruiz or Rahman or Oquendo.
You miss my point. The Wlad vs. Byrd (a fight that I've seen) isn't not anywhere near the same Wlad vs. Williamson that we just saw.
Wlad has more courage puncing vs. Byrd who can't hurt him rather than someone like Williamson who can.
Williamson has half the skill of Golota and put china chin Wlad on the canvas.
Golota will put him 6 feet under
How about this idea?
Steward should FIRE Klitchsko.
The best trainer in the world can't give you heart, confidence or a chin. Wlad is missing all three.
Why when a fighter looks like garbage it's always the trainer whose at fault? Maybe the finger should point the other direction. Steward can't sculpt sh!t into a masterpiece. Not even Eddie Futch could do that.
Fire Wlad.
You have a way of spinning out of the discussion. We aren't judging how fighters do against each other. We are judging who has better boxing skills. Wlad destroyed Byrd, Golota didn't. Arguably beating someone is not that same as pitching a shutout. Bobby Czyz is a horrible comparison to Byrd. Are you doing that on purpose or what? Czyz blows. How are you comparing him to the best defensive boxer out there today? And how are you comparing a Golota draw with Byrd to Holyfield TKOing Czyz in 5 rounds?
Byrd the best defensive boxer today? Please. that's all hype. He's got good defense for a heavyweight since most heavies just catch punches on their face.
Byrd was very easy for Golota and Oquendo to hit.
Wlad has more power than Golota. That's why he beat Byrd so badly. But power isn't a skill.
The Wlad back then was as skilled if not more skilled than Golota. The Wlad of today is not. He's terrified of being countered and is afraid to let his hands go
If i was dick willy, why would i tell everyone to ignore him?
Which no one has, and so he is still posting because everyones taking the baite and replying to his provocational insulting posts.
You're pretty smart for a strumpet!
As long as I've lived, anyone has yet to 'put me in my place'
I can tell. If your man had put you in your place, you wouldn't be posting here. you'd be cooking your man a good meal.
What a bunch of jerkoffs.
Lacy gets in wars with Donnell Wiggins and Syd Vanderpool and all of a sudden he's not only the best super middle in boxing, he beats everyone from 175 and below???
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Find me one puncher Lacy has beaten in his career. He is incredibly easy to hit and the second he faces a strong hard hitter like himself, then we'll know what Lacy is made of. Those hard winging shots from lacy are sure to not come as often if his opponent is putting as much hurt on him as he is on them.
Maybe Lacy kills Tito. I don't know. Maybe he is too big. But looking like a killer with a great physique which Lacy has doesn't have sh!t to do with boxing. Syd Vanderpool is one thing. Tito Trinidad or Antonio Tarver is a whole different level.
Yo
I just joined recently and I see this thread.
To all the lovely ladies out there in internet land, my name is Willy, and they call me Sweet Dick for a good reason. Holla :D
Bad example for young girls
thanks guy's...I let her read ONLY the parts about her (the clean posts) and she said not to worry, shes not afraid to get hit and she'll aim for the nose.
Mooks, she said "I dont think so...I'll try and knock her on her butt"...she has my attitude, dont ya think??
You should be teaching your daughter how to cook a good meal and how to do the laundry not fight. That's the problem with today's women. They don't know their place in the household. Trust me my old ladies are well trained. If not before I get them I break them in. Sometimes with left hooks of my own ;)