where would tyzsu stand as an all time great if he won undisputed welerwieght

Jay Nady ironically was the ref in that fight! I thought so but I wasnt sure. People dont realize how huge that is. If he was the ref in the Floyd and Castillo fights then Floyd wouldve won both easily. It makes a differnce

That depends on who the ref is. Some refs dont let you do anything in the clinch. Like the one Jones had against Ruiz Jay Nady ironically was the ref in that fight!

Kostya doesnt need to catch him, he just has to get close enough to clinch him and he will knock him out. That depends on who the ref is. Some refs dont let you do anything in the clinch. Like the one Jones had against Ruiz

Kostya doesnt need to catch him, he just has to get close enough to clinch him and he will knock him out.

But everything Zoo does is a great feat, right I didn't say that did I? All I'm saying is their respective speed to each other means fuckall when you consider that they have completely different styles.

well, you can't really point much that's wrong when you have a guy that's dropping #1 contenders in the first three rounds of the fight..with one punch His resume is overated. He has only 1 good win and that is against Judah

well, you can't really point much that's wrong when you have a guy that's dropping #1 contenders in the first three rounds of the fight..with one punch

Slow and straight beats quick and loopy every time, and that is all Mayorga throws. Cory made him look foolish because he saw every punch coming from a guy that wades in with no jab and is constantly swinging for the fences, not a great feat imo. But everything Zoo does is a great feat, right

He has a quicker release from point A to point B but overall he is slower then Mayorga and that is what counts against Spinks Slow and straight beats quick and loopy every time, and that is all Mayorga throws. Cory made him look foolish because he saw every punch coming from a guy that wades in with no jab and is constantly swinging for the fences, not a great feat imo.

I have to disagree that he is slower than Mayorga. I think he is quicker, plus he throws straight punches from many angles which makes him much more dangerous. He has a quicker release from point A to point B but overall he is slower then Mayorga and that is what counts against Spinks

He is also much slower then Mayorga so it evens out. Spinks is bigger and Zoo would not reach him I have to disagree that he is slower than Mayorga. I think he is quicker, plus he throws straight punches from many angles which makes him much more dangerous.

I can't see either guy beating Oscar at 147.

Tyszu vs DLH would be a great fight, to very smart boxers, both have natural power in there hands, DLH is going to be more dangerous moving back down in weight. this would be the fight everyone wants to see. Whats Judah done to start calling out DLH if these 2 fight DLH would kill him.

If he were to win the Undisputed title and then go on to beat Oscar and Mosley, you would have to put him as an all time great. He is a tremendous fighter as it is.

Zab is smaller than Spinks, he reached him. Tszyu is stronger, i can see him cutting the ring down to size, Spinks isn't a big puncher, Tszyu could even take Spinks shots if he has to to get inside. Tszyu would do what Zab did, but it'll be uglier for Spinks Zoo is nowhere near as fast as Judah and Zab still took a long time to reach him. No way Zoo is fast enough to reach Spinks. Zoo wouldnt be able to cut the ring off on a defensive fighter. He did that with Zab and Mitchell because they were being offensive. Spinks is defensive and in retreat 95% of the time.

tszyu never has trouble landing on boxers with a superior reach. that's not gonna save spinks.

He is also much slower then Mayorga so it evens out. Spinks is bigger and Zoo would not reach him Zab is smaller than Spinks, he reached him. Tszyu is stronger, i can see him cutting the ring down to size, Spinks isn't a big puncher, Tszyu could even take Spinks shots if he has to to get inside. Tszyu would do what Zab did, but it'll be uglier for Spinks

Tszyu is much bigger puncher with better skills than Mayorga, he'd knock Spinks out He is also much slower then Mayorga so it evens out. Spinks is bigger and Zoo would not reach him

I dont think Zoo can beat Spinks. He is too defensive. I dont think Zoo has the speed to catch him. He caught Zab and Mitchell but Spinks is much more defensive. He wont give Zoo any openings just like he didnt give Mayorga Tszyu is much bigger puncher with better skills than Mayorga, he'd knock Spinks out

Juda is the one that needs Zoo, he was embarrassed and if he wants to ever be conisdered above Kt then he will have to make that fight happen and win of course. Zoo would beat him again probably in a much tougher fight and he would have beaten Spinks inside of 4 or 5 rounds. I dont think Zoo can beat Spinks. He is too defensive. I dont think Zoo has the speed to catch him. He caught Zab and Mitchell but Spinks is much more defensive. He wont give Zoo any openings just like he didnt give Mayorga