at suppermiddleweight ?
those guys were the most impressive last WE .
i would favor tito right now because of experience and those superb combos of his .
i know tito loves fighters who stand in front of him , and lacy is no runner at all , but lacy has such a physical strenght and can punch so heavy , he may caught tito in his own game.
righy now i see a david reid like fight , with a KD of tito and lacy taking the first rounds using pressure but fading after sustaining punishment and getting destroyed in the late rounds.
still lacy is such a physical freak and can really box , in a few years it could different.
SO WHY DOES HOPKINS GET SO MUCH CREDIT FOR THE TITO WIN WHEN CALZAGHE GETS NONE FOR THE LACY WIN?
Retarded fucks.
Tito is a much much better fighter than Lacy ever was. Tito is a 5 time world champ in 3 different divisions and future Hall Of Famer thats why. Lacy is none of these things that's why.
Lol Tito would KO Lacy at 168 now or in 2004 or whenever. Lacy is there to get hit and Tito rapes anyone who stands toe to toe. A Tito win over Lacy would mean more because he moved up 4 divisions to do so if they ever fought. Basically all these predictions 4 years ago were proven wrong. Tito KO's Lacy mid to late rounds at any point of their careers at 168.
Joe did put on a masterful performance against Lacy the best in his career and it may seem like circular logic but alot of people agree that Lacy was never that good. Just alot of hot air. You'll probably accuse me of being biased against European fighters but I'm not. He fought a 43 year old Hopkins and beat him by split decision. I used to think Joe was the best ever fighter from the UK but not anymore based off his performance against the 43 year old Hopkins. I'm back to thinking Lewis is the best fighter to come from the UK.
I think Joe feasted on a weak divison beat hyped American fighter who in hindsight was not good, beat a good European fighter in Kessler but once he came over to fight against the best it was a classic case in Europe's aggregate history when it comes to boxing. They do great over in Europe but when they come to face the best in America it's a different story. 43 year old Hopkins dropped him in the first and lost in a close competitive fight at 43.
Again I'm not hating on Europe or UK fighters it's just the truth. Nazeem Hamed was great in Europe he came to the US to face the best and almost got KO'd against Kevin Kelly in his debut and then lost to MAB. Ricky Hatton looked great in Europe and beat some names nowhere near their prime but then fought Luis Collazo and in many peoples opinions lost that fight in his US debut and then got hurt against Urango and then got KO'd by Mayweather.
The only one in my time to break the mold is of course Lennox Lewis the best HW in his era. I think if Joe had fought Hopkins when he was 41 or below he would have lost by wide UD or even by KO. You may not like what you're reading but I'm not against European fighters at all. I have a case of facts I laid out for you that leads me and others to believe the quality of fighters over there is not the same as in the Western Hemisphere with countries like the US, PR and Mexico the 3 best countries in the world when it comes to boxing.
When the best in Europe face the best in the Western World the majority of the time European fighters get beat.
SO WHY DOES HOPKINS GET SO MUCH CREDIT FOR THE TITO WIN WHEN CALZAGHE GETS NONE FOR THE LACY WIN?
Retarded fucks.
Because this is 2008 and we realize Lacy wasnt that Good, Tito WAS that good and undefeated and his power carried over well into middleweight, the fact that you have to dig up a thread i personally read on here 4 years ago just to get credibility to Joes win over lacy shows how much that win doesnt really stand the test of time, stop being desperate.
What a bunch of jerkoffs.
Lacy gets in wars with Donnell Wiggins and Syd Vanderpool and all of a sudden he's not only the best super middle in boxing, he beats everyone from 175 and below???
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Find me one puncher Lacy has beaten in his career. He is incredibly easy to hit and the second he faces a strong hard hitter like himself, then we'll know what Lacy is made of. Those hard winging shots from lacy are sure to not come as often if his opponent is putting as much hurt on him as he is on them.
Maybe Lacy kills Tito. I don't know. Maybe he is too big. But looking like a killer with a great physique which Lacy has doesn't have sh!t to do with boxing. Syd Vanderpool is one thing. Tito Trinidad or Antonio Tarver is a whole different level.
Hey, I might be PR but I'm not blind, deaf, and mute. I've seen Lacy fight and he is a monster! He has awesome stamina, great punching power, speed, and good footwork. What else do you need? He reminds me of a 1988 Tyson.
how can u say he has great stamina when hes yet to face tough opposition
and has only been in or past the 8th 4 or 5 times?
hes just to inexperienced right now
in time hed have an easy nite
but not now
why would you wnat this for such a good looking prospect
can you say Meldrick Taylor and Julio Cesar Chavez
Taylor like lacy showed great potential
in fact this should be compared to tito-vargas
Vargas just wasnt ready for tito
and neither is lacy
Tito has better 2 handed power but Lacy's power is unreal. He touches Tito a few times to the body then goes upstairs with those vicious uppercuts and it's nite-nite for Felix.
Lacy KO's Tito in 8 or less. Just my opinion. Lacy is a genetic freak.
168 could be too much for Trinidad but at 160 Trinidad's power could get anyone.
Tito knocks him out. Lacy is a banger, but Tito is the ultimate banger.
No one 168 or under can go toe to toe with Tito
I am impressed because you gave Trinidad the credit he deserves.
at suppermiddleweight ?
those guys were the most impressive last WE .
i would favor tito right now because of experience and those superb combos of his .
i know tito loves fighters who stand in front of him , and lacy is no runner at all , but lacy has such a physical strenght and can punch so heavy , he may caught tito in his own game.
righy now i see a david reid like fight , with a KD of tito and lacy taking the first rounds using pressure but fading after sustaining punishment and getting destroyed in the late rounds.
still lacy is such a physical freak and can really box , in a few years it could different.
Tito knocks him out. Lacy is a banger, but Tito is the ultimate banger.
No one 168 or under can go toe to toe with Tito
No way, Lacy's too easy to hit, Tito and B-hop would both destroy him because they don't let theirselves get hit like he does. He took some good shots from Vanderpool and never seemed affected by them, but I don't think he could take it all night.
It would be damn fun too watch, last weekend I watched all six fights, TRinidad was impresive no doubt, but he fought a guy(a guy that I thought had a real chance, I am a dumshit)that actually gets hit with everything, I knew this before and I am ashamed of myself for thinking that Mayo could take bomb after bomb. Anyways Of all the fights last week LAcy was by far the most impressive too me, I have alway like lacy, but no Ilove him!
damn you are a PR fan and you think lacy destroys tito ?
that proves you are a real boxing fan , with real analysis.
still i think that right now , tito beats lacy on experience and all around skills.
but sure lacy is a freight train :eek:
Hey, I might be PR but I'm not blind, deaf, and mute. I've seen Lacy fight and he is a monster! He has awesome stamina, great punching power, speed, and good footwork. What else do you need? He reminds me of a 1988 Tyson.