Its near impossible too confirm who is on steroids or not from standard urine testing due too the many loopholes.
http://www.steroidreport.com/2008/03/22/testosterone-epitestosterone-ratio-test-false-negatives-and-false-positives/
From this study if you have the right genetics, to be specific, lacking the enzyme UGT2B17 one can get away with using up too 500mg of exogenous testosterone enanthate tested by anti doping organisations such as WADA & NSCA's T-E/testosterone:epitestosterone ratio urine spot test.
If one can get away with using up too 500mg of an external source of testosterone then this would bring total testosterone levels too around 2500-3500ng/dl (400-500% higher than natural testosterone levels)a few days after taking the injection depending on half life of the testosterone ester.
So if one has the right genetics or manipulates ones own biochemistry they can get away free while injecting this amount of testosterone and test falsely negative.This also works the other way, if one has the wrong or bad genetics then he/she can test a false positive too.
This testosterone loophole in drug testing has been known by athletes for decades (anecdotally).
This is why 9/10 athletes who are on anabolic steroids and who are only tested via the standard NSAC *urine spot* tests wont get caught if they are on.
Too many loopholes via manipulating ones biochemistry like the above, enzyme UGT2B17 as an example, too many masking agents which one can be prepared for in advance.
Now if all athletes were needed too take *random blood* testing there would be a greater chance of testing positive if one were on due too less masking agents, no advanced time too prepare manipulation of ones biochemistry and much less loopholes with random blood* testing if any.
Hes right about the testing loopholes.
I will give you one example from the many with a scientific study source too prove it :
From this study if you have the right genetics, to be specific, lacking the enzyme UGT2B17 one can get away with using up too 500mg of exogenous testosterone enathate if tested by NSCA's T-E/testosterone:epitestosterone ratio urine spot test.
An average healthy male in their prime health say 20s-30s would produce around 70ng/dl a week naturally which measures too around 600ng/dl on a standard total testosterone blood test, range 250-1000ng/dl.
If one can get away with using up too 500mg of an external source of testosterone then this would bring total testosterone levels too around 2500-3500ng/dl a few days after taking the injection depending on half life of the testosterone ester.
This testosterone loophole in drug testing has been known by athletes for decades (anecdotally).
http://www.steroidreport.com/2008/03...lse-positives/
Boosting testosterone increases red blood cells and hematocrit levels as well but not as much as EPO.
HGH can take a good year for the benefits too be noticeable but general mood benefits will be experienced much quicker within 3 months.Its more too help recovery than anything and hes also right about its actual strength compared too other anabolic steroids, it is weak and uncomparable although if one were too have low HGH levels in first place then one would experience a much greater effect when it comes too recovery.
Nothing.
From this study if you have the right genetics, to be specific, lacking the enzyme UGT2B17 one can get away with using up too 500mg of exogenous testosterone enathate if tested by NSCA's T-E/testosterone:epitestosterone ratio urine spot test.
An average healthy male in their prime health say 20s-30s would produce around 70ng/dl a week naturally which measures too around 600ng/dl on a standard total testosterone blood test, range 250-1000ng/dl.
If one can get away with using up too 500mg of an external source of testosterone then this would bring total testosterone levels too around 2500ng/dl a few days after taking the injection depending on half life of the testosterone ester.
This is for everyone who competes and takes the standard NSAC drug testing and not just Shane. This testosterone loophole in drug testing has been known by athletes for decades (anecdotally).
http://www.steroidreport.com/2008/03/22/testosterone-epitestosterone-ratio-test-false-negatives-and-false-positives/
So Mannys going in at 148, for a 150 fight, for a 154 belt?
I know it's a 150 limit, but wer'nt they contracted to meet there?
They gave Floyd hell for not losing 2 pounds, cause the extra 2 pounds would have drained him.
Now Mannys not putting 2 pounds on, cause it will make him slow.
Aint this the same thing?
Or is it just me
You just won the Darwin award, congrats!
if eaner didnt see the contracts then he knows just as much as we do. It was my understanding that eaner works for everlast not margarito.
how the f do u know who eaner is? how do u know he's from his camp? oh let me guess..because he said so?
He wasnt far off and you cannot really trust a Maywheathers opinion on Manny.
Nope he wasnt allowed to put on weight overnight just 14bls ;)
This is why even the olympic style blood and urine tests are a failure.
They dont test for the amount of testosterone only if its present and a ratio of T-E.
The total testosterone serum ng/dl test is what anti aging doctors use to verify total testosterone levels. The usual range is 250ng/dl-1100ng/dl.
If Peterson tested below 250ng/dl then his doctor will have a copy of this lab result.
However Anti Aging doctors dont just place someone who tests low on testosterone on TRT they verify whether or not they have primary or secondary hypogonadism.
Just because one has low test doesnt mean they need TRT, you can restart low test levels to healthy levels using clomid, novaldex,hcg and hmg.
Can you type the normal range and Peterson's as a comparison and also explain how to lower the SHBG levels?
Also explain your abbreviations.
Thanks.
Sure np.
Petersons total testosterone : 563ng/dl =normal
Ranges vary from 250-1100ng/ng/dl , 233-827ng/dl (depends what lab)
Petersons free testosterone : 7.5pg/nl=low
Free testosterone range on average
* 20-29 years 9.3-26.5 picogram/mL
* 30-39 years 8.7-25.1 picogram/mL
* 40-49 years 6.8-21.5 picogram/mL
* 50-59 years 7.2-24.0 picogram/mL
* 60+ years 6.6-18.1 picogram/mL
(SHBG) or Sex hormone-binding globulin (Binds to mainly testosterone and estradiol/estrogen)
Nettle root extract,proviron lowers SHBG and couple others.
TRT: testosterone replacement therapy usually administered via injection,patch,gel,cream,pellet etc
Experience 8yrs on TRT, several endocrinlogists throughout the world.Had high SHBG also was at 68 which caused low free test like Petersons. Easy too lower SHBG but near impossible to increase it.
No respected hormone specialist, anti aging doc would ever consider administering TRT at a level of 563ng/dl. What his doc has done is basically shut Petersons testes down for life meaning he has to rely on external testosterone.
How a respected Doc would have dealt with it would be :
Lower SHBG which increases free+bioavailable testosterone
(Can increase total testosterone slightly)
Look at estradiol and if high lower it via an Aromatase inhibitor which would increase his total testosterone even though it does not need increasing.
By adding in 800mg testosterone slow absorbed pellets to his already 563ng/dl his total testosterone level would have been way above the total serum count. Eventually though his natural level of 563ng/dl would turn too around 100-200ng/dl since external testosterone shuts down natutal production of test and then his total test count would be in range as long the doc was using normal TRT dosing.
Right of to the gym...
This is why Ive been saying even the olympic/standard style blood and urine tests are not enough.
They dont test for the amount of testosterone only if an external source is present and a ratio of T-E.Naturally epitestosterone levels start to increase in males in their 30s yet testosterone levels start to decline.
Also there are ways too increase epitestosterone levels too mask a abnormally high over the top range of testosterone so the T-E ratio testing is flawed and have been for decades yet no one gives a damn.
The total testosterone serum ng/dl test is what anti aging doctors use to verify total testosterone levels. The normal range is 250ng/dl-1100ng/dl.
Not one single testing agency out there does this test, why?
Too expensive, inconvenient and takes up too much time.
The fact that Olympic style testing dont even test for total testosterone serum in the form of ng/dl levels, one who is on TRT can cruise then blast their testosterone dose meaning majority of TRT users who are athletes take advantage of their TRT by increasing their doses whenever it suits them.
Wheres the proof?
Wheres the labwork from last year or years before too prove a total
testosterone serum count lower than 250ng/dl?
Surely if one suffers from something as serious as hypogonadism where the testes no longer produce sufficient levels of testosterone too function properly, one would remember too mark this illness down on the medical sheet?
Another thing is how accurate are these tests?
Petes doc states he is on testosterone replacement therapy so this is a lifetime treatment yet the April test came back negative for external testosterone ....
Meh ... None have overcome the 8" height, 15" wingspan and 5" arm reach advantage in their 9th weight class with an opponent the Caliber of Williams. If you can prove otherwise I will accept i was wrong so on you go ;)
Not to mention the weight advantage on fight night as well so NO CHANCE its happening!
Fine!! I'll stop it .. tbh im a fan of Pacs but just dont see the Williams fight comming off, does not make sense!
Oh Shat!! Hes sparring with these 6ft giants each n every single day!! That must mean hes preparing himself for Williams next!!
OFC WHY DIDNT I THINK THAT!?!?
Next he will be sparring with David Haye, Nicoli the manbearpig to take on the *****ko sistas as well!! ... for his what ... 16th World Lineal Catchweight King Title belt ...ahhhhHHHHHHHHH
Like i said before, you must be new to boxing. huge height discrepancies between fighters happen all the time. ive given you 3 names of fighters who were successful in beating much larger opponents.
As for williams vs pac, if margarito could touch up williams face, what's a accurate, fast, mobile, fleet footed, power puncher like pac gonna do?
See sharmba mitchell vs paul williams.
That was a shot, fat, past prime williams who continuously landed on pwill. pac & mitchell are just about the same height.
Meh ... you missed the point. Pac V Williams is NOT happening end off!
The height, reach and weight advantages and factor in the caliber of opponent in Williams they will not risk Pac loosing and ruining
the super fight.
Sure they were successful in beating taller fighters but Pac hasnt been. Hes not beaten anyone decent close to 6ft2/3.
Also it was not that long ago they turned down Yuri Foreman ... for guess what ... being TOO TALL LOL!!