Manny Pacquiao - Weights Breakdown [Tale of the Tapes]

To ALL FLOYDIOTS out there! FLOMOS - Poochie the the fake has cherry picked his way through the crowd fighting has beens. He jumped from 135 to 148 in 6 months that's damn near a 15 lbs different in such little time. And in boxing that is a RED FLAG. No one gains that kind of weight in such little time and is still ripped & endurance. But besides his juicing to keep the weight on him, he merely hand picked his success. FLOMOS - Pacquiao is Juicing his very very suspicious. No one from Flyweight will go up to middleweight. “Is it suspicious the way (Pacquiao) has gained so much lean muscle mass while retaining and even seemingly improving his power and speed? Yes,” Conte says. “It is highly suspicious. , to the standard urine testing that, in my opinion, is worthless. You don't do your homework.. Floyd never went from 105 to 150 he's never even fought at 105.. when Floyd and others talk about Paquiaos rise in weight they are talking about within the last few years as he went from fighting at 129 up to 154.. So in just 3 yrs Pacquiao gained 17 pds of muscle and substantial increase in punching power most of which was gained when Paquiao was already over the age of 30.. impossible? No. Suspect? Yes. Only reason people wonder if he is juicing, is due to the fact the weighed 129 in March 2008 against Marquez. By December 2008, he was fighting at 142 lbs against Oscar. That's the only reason, on top of the fact that he and his team have clearly stated they will not agree to Mayweather's testing ever. You don't believe me??? Go look at what Alex Ariza said a couple days ago. He took on 13 lbs in 9 months, not unreal but not seen in boxing. He jumped from Super Featherweight to Welterweight in 9 months. That's the only reason people think so, plus him avoiding the testing of course. Mayweather was at Super Featherweight in 2001, and didn't get to Welterweight until 2005-2006. Also, Floyd NEVER weighed 154 lbs on fight night or at a weigh in for that matter. He may have fought Oscar at 154 lbs (not a CW like Manny), but he weighed 150 lbs for the weigh in and the fight. The highest Floyd has ever weighed in for a fight was Mayweather-De La Hoya (150), and the highest he's ever come in during fight night was against Oscar (150) and Ortiz (150). Let me break down Pacquiao weighs Flomos. Please help your self http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9981/91992309.jpg

Comments (20)

Flomos can't understand this. Too complex for their ghetto minds.

14y ago

dosepulgada

If manny is either an american or mexican, he would be bigger than Mayweather even during his younger years. What more if he was a black american? Imagine if Manny and May has swapped their resumes, May would have been the best fighter in the history of sport -- bar none. Unfortunately, MP is a Filipino. And it is known that Filipinos hasnt been dominating the sport with huge support from fans around the globe until now. And because he was a Filipino, it is very hard to gain enough recognition and be in a bigger stage. I mean, just take a look and see what happened during the ODLH fight, only a few fans knew that Pacman is indeed the better fighter before the fight until Pac blew Oscar. This is unlike May, who has been under the radar during his younger years. This is why, he should be given a lot of props for becoming who is he now. Unfortunately, people dont think the same way.

14y ago

Toyman

Well I dont believe in any of the stuff about Pac gaining the weight so fast so he is on PEDS . I dont fly with the Pac is blowing these guys away because he is on PEDS , , simply because I believe the CWs and right selection is doing that . The whole PEDS thing has got to the point where Manny is under obligation to boxing and must take the test for the good of the sport that made him a star , its not morally right to refuse a drugs test and you bet that history will not fly with it if the fight dont happen because of it . So its not a submit to whatever Floyd wants its very more specific , in reality its submit yourself as clean player to the fans ,,, In todays day and age Floyd has every right to ask for this for no other reason than having a gut feeling , its one of the few things in life that dont need anything to justify it , history will not read all this fanboy bullsh!t into it ,,,,, Manny needs to end all and any of his team saying he wont take it , then he take the testing and take the fight . :O I only hear of 1 person who keeps demanding him to take the test. Besides, him passing the mayweather test won't even prove he doesn't use peds. Are you 100% sure if he were to agree to the test mayweather would want the fight? What about the last negotiations where they agreed to the 14 day cutoff then mayweather went on vacation?

14y ago

Reloaded

Yeah, Pacquiao should submit himself to whatever the Mayweather State Athletic Commission says... Well I dont believe in any of the stuff about Pac gaining the weight so fast so he is on PEDS . I dont fly with the Pac is blowing these guys away because he is on PEDS , , simply because I believe the CWs and right selection is doing that . The whole PEDS thing has got to the point where Manny is under obligation to boxing and must take the test for the good of the sport that made him a star , its not morally right to refuse a drugs test and you bet that history will not fly with it if the fight dont happen because of it . So its not a submit to whatever Floyd wants its very more specific , in reality its submit yourself as clean player to the fans ,,, In todays day and age Floyd has every right to ask for this for no other reason than having a gut feeling , its one of the few things in life that dont need anything to justify it , history will not read all this fanboy bullsh!t into it ,,,,, Manny needs to end all and any of his team saying he wont take it , then he take the testing and take the fight .

14y ago

chaos

This weight business is all a diversion. What's really incriminating about Pac is that his arms went from 25" against Diaz, to 23" against DLH. He's obviously using some sort of bionic arm and Mayweathers should definitely be looking into this.

14y ago

Vasyls_dad

One of the better threads here. Complete and total destruction of Floyd stans who claim that Manny gained 15 pounds in 6 months.

14y ago

PacquiaoATG

Another Floydiots. FLOMOS are retard! Only reason people wonder if he is juicing, is due to the fact the weighed 129 in March 2008 against Marquez. By December 2008, he was fighting at 142 lbs against Oscar. That's the only reason, on top of the fact that he and his team have clearly stated they will not agree to Mayweather's testing ever. You don't believe me??? Go look at what Alex Ariza said a couple days ago. He took on 13 lbs in 9 months, not unreal but not seen in boxing. He jumped from Super Featherweight to Welterweight in 9 months. That's the only reason people think so, plus him avoiding the testing of course. Mayweather was at Super Featherweight in 2001, and didn't get to Welterweight until 2005-2006. Also, Floyd NEVER weighed 154 lbs on fight night or at a weigh in for that matter. He may have fought Oscar at 154 lbs (not a CW like Manny), but he weighed 150 lbs for the weigh in and the fight. The highest Floyd has ever weighed in for a fight was Mayweather-De La Hoya (150), and the highest he's ever come in during fight night was against Oscar (150) and Ortiz (150).

14y ago

PacquiaoATG

New collection: dumb comments from Flomos You don't do your homework.. Floyd never went from 105 to 150 he's never even fought at 105.. when Floyd and others talk about Paquiaos rise in weight they are talking about within the last few years as he went from fighting at 129 up to 154.. So in just 3 yrs Pacquiao gained 17 pds of muscle and substantial increase in punching power most of which was gained when Paquiao was already over the age of 30.. impossible? No. Suspect? Yes. :stupid:

14y ago

PacquiaoATG

http://oi51.tinypic.com/25aktxs.jpg Just updated the picture... Because FLOMOS keep bringing Pacquiao rise in weight. Please help your self... Manny Pacquiao Fight night weight average was always in the welterweight. Pacquiao don't need to drain him self this time.

14y ago

PacquiaoATG

hahaha shane weighing 164 lmao???? 17 lbs heavier then the WW limit..lmao when has shane ever weighed that much for a fight?? Even when he fought at JMW he never weighed that much...oh i take that back when he fought floyd at 147 he weighed in that night at 220....hahahaha Hey Floydiot! I guess your not watching boxing. Please do watch the Mosley fight. Scumbag http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/694/100918hboppvshanemosley.png http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/4599/wkgvft.jpg :fu2: OWNED! Mosley fight night is 160lbs +++

15y ago

gopi11

I'll agree with you to a certain extent. Some are always going to criticize the accomplishments of any athlete, no matter the sport. It's just a sad part of the game. However, some criticisms such as PED abuse need to be addressed and not simply passed off as another example of undeserved hate. The cloud of PED abuse really downgrades Pac's accomplishments even more than the criticisms against him for fighting catchweight bouts or "over-the-hill" boxers. Yeah, Pacquiao should submit himself to whatever the Mayweather State Athletic Commission says...

15y ago

VWEBB

Alex Ariza: "I'm responsible for what Manny takes. He has no idea what he takes." :cool2: Man, that statement gets me every time, I mean EVERY TIME. :chomp:

15y ago

gopi11

exactly. instead of being great and challeneging himself like floyd and moving up in weight. he choose to drain himself and fight smaller guys LMAO!!! So when Pacquiao forced Cotto to drain himself an extra pound, he's called the catchweight king? But if he kills himself to make it as feather/superfeatherweight, he gets no credit? WTF are you smoking?

15y ago

gopi11

i have never thought manny was on anything but you never know but all this manny is small talk is kinda bull**** when he has been the bigger man in the majority of his fights yet he feels to small to fight certain fighters at the full weight limit,it's bull**** What would have happened if Floyd drained himself back to 135 when he fought Marquez? That's what Pacquiao's been doing to himself against the Mexican legends, Think about that...

15y ago

PrinceCharlez

He has slowed down. But don't flomo's say Oscar was a zombie? There u go placing the blame on Oscar being a Zombie. Until you pac fans look at Manny and what Manny is doing you'll never see the picture. Too busy worrying about what another fans says. All im saying is look at the scale dude. 135 to 147 is a 12 lbs difference no matter how u cut it. You can only compare weighin weight with weighin weights and night of the fight weight with night of the fight weight. Manny had to make weight of 135 or less 6 monts before making weight of 147 or less. He weighed in at 142 thats 7lbs of muscle in less then 6 months on the scale bro...do you know how hard it is to gain 7lbs of muscle?? Not to mention in the sport of boxing when they are throwing punches, running mountains, jumping rope, sparing endless rounds. Then on top of the 7lbs of muscle 135-142, he gains roughly 6 more lbs over night?? come on man....the proof is in front of u...im not the one who uploaded the thread but its clear.. And Oscar was a zombie because he had lost so much weight. But look at the picture again...Oscar was a MW fighting at WW...he let a LW beat him??? that **** dont add up...

15y ago

PrinceCharlez

lmao at this Pactard... My Prediction http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8411/pacquiaovsmosley.jpg hahaha shane weighing 164 lmao???? 17 lbs heavier then the WW limit..lmao when has shane ever weighed that much for a fight?? Even when he fought at JMW he never weighed that much...oh i take that back when he fought floyd at 147 he weighed in that night at 220....hahahaha

15y ago

PrinceCharlez

Pactards are dumb WHy are you guys showing the night of the fight weight, as if thats what he weighs at the weigh in?? That night of the fight weight has nothing to do with the actual contract weight amount. Manny vs Marquez for example was fought at 135, so those fighters had to make 135 weight. That means when they stepped on that scale they couldnt weigh no more then 135 lbs. After the weigh in they drink water, and maybe eat something so the night of the fight they are heavier and possible weigh 140 or above. That doesnt mean put them in the right with a WW fighter who weighs in the 140's or above because the muscle weight is different. Manny turned around and faced Oscar 6 months later and weighed in around 142 to 144 give or take. Thats a 7 lbs weight gain on the scale for the weighin in 6 months. That isnt the night of the fight weight where u drink water thats his actual weight. That weight gain had no effect on Mannys so called SMALL FRAME...remember he's the little man beating bigger men...not to mention the water weight coming into the fight on fight night...he is weighing 148 the heaviest of his career. DId you notice any issues with the weight on him??? Not at all....so u tell me...at 8 different weight classes, when does the weight slow u down?? Manny is a small man...

15y ago

MindBat

Alex Ariza: "I'm responsible for what Manny takes. He has no idea what he takes." :cool2:

15y ago

PacquiaoATG

Another dumb FLOMO In terms of weight gain, when you move up very fast the extra weight basically has to be fat. It takes much more time to add muscle. Manny added muscle.. not fat. At 145 on the scale he is ripped. When he gets into the ring at 148 he is ripped. To add 10 to 15 lbs of muscle in 6 months with all the endurance training he does is practically impossible without steroids. There is no doubt in my mind that he has done at least two cycles of steroids to gain muscle. It is also possible that he takes steroids and/or HGH, and EPO during training camp similar to Shane's old PED stack. The steroids prevent you from losing muscle during the hard cardio (which would be enhanced by EPO). Once your camp is over you feel much stronger than you would if you were clean. If you were clean then you WOULD burn muscle, and when you burn muscle it is devastating to your power, stamina, and endurance.

15y ago

PacquiaoATG

My Prediction http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8411/pacquiaovsmosley.jpg

15y ago