Ironically, Molina's face will recover quicker than Khan's hands and the punishment he took will affect his career less than Khan's hands will now affect his, even though he did the beating.
I find that the jab is a good basic punch, but if you don't know how to throw it, it might not work for you.
I find that the left hook can be used to hurt your opponent, but if you don't know how to use it, or don't have a left arm, then it won't work for you.
I believe that airplanes are a quick mode of cross-continental travel, but if you don't have the money to buy a ticket, then it might not work for you.
I believe the philly shell ...
See?
Usain Bolt, a few years ago wasn't running 9.9s but now he's running 9.59s.
Phelps was a good swimmer and then, boom ... gold medals everywhere.
The dinosaurs were walking around one day and kapow, they were dead.
Steve Waugh averaged 30-something for the first 30-odd games he played and then ... boom, ended with a career average of 50+
Dude, sometimes people just improve. Get over it.
You realise that Ronnie Coleman wasn't born 300lbs right? People can put on considerable weight over their lives, and can retain strength and speed. Anybody familiar with human physiology (even at a basic level) can see this.
This. Could you imagine Khan freezing when the bell rings? damn.
Aye. I can actually imagine a situation in which his focus deserts him for 20-30 seconds in the first round, quite simply because of the occassion, the aura of the opponent, the comments, and his ambitions to fight Mayweather or whatever else.
I actually believe that if he'd locked himself away and trained in relative solace, he'd have a great chance against Maidana. The media exposure is a double-edged sword for amir. It brings him a lot of money and fans, but it also piles expectation on him at a considerable rate.
This. You're not the first guy saying this. I think he will have stress going in the fight, the first time in Vegas, the first time after the Knockout he's facing a guy who is feared for his hard punches. And knowing everyone is thinking he will be KO'd. The guy has to prove something to the boxing world saturday night. I think Maidana is too much for him.
Exactly. I do like amir, and actually, if you're from the north of england you can see why he speaks the way he does and says the things he says. May come across as arrogant but I don't think he's that arrogant. He's just not very good at appearing confident, and sometimes overdoes it.
That said, the factors you mentioned will be extremely important:
1) Vegas
2) Big puncher
3) Biggest crowd of his career?
1 + 2 + 3 = a lot of tension. That tension could mean a slower, cagier start. Which could give Maidana an early opening somewhere.
hahahahahaha :headbang:
As much of a Khan fan as I am, I have to say - this guy LOOKS scary.
Barring Tyson, he's the last guy I'd want staring me down. He's got that "I'm going to kill you" look about him constantly.
Its not a hateful look; its a superior look - the kind that a sociopath may give his co-workers in the officer, completely devoid of empathy, lacking emotion, cold ... cold.
I wish Amir the best but I feel his legs might fail him as soon as he actually sees this guy standing opposite him (I hope not!)
I agree with the Maidana stare.
It's not exactly a chilling stare like Hearns, or aggressive, like Lockett.
It's murder like, like Tyson's. Looking at you like you are prey.
I would liken his stare to the look of a shark - sort of unblinking, constant and cold. Its a bit unsettling. Amir better make sure that he's understood completely who it is that he's fighting, or else it could be a rude awakening.
That said, I believe that Roach is the kind of guy who will have told Khan EXACTLY what to expect. I hope that's enough for him to win.
I don't want either guy to lose, really. I guess whatever happens, there will be fireworks.
So far I'm surprised by the result of the poll. I figured it'd come out with a 50/50 spread.
I absolutely cannot decide who's going to win this one, or even how!
In context he may not be brilliant, but he's a professional fighter. I guaran-****ing-tee he beats the **** out of any of you laughing at him and calling him a prick.
Nothing worse than a bunch of keyboard warriors stating just how bad a professional boxer is. It doesn't matter. These guys put a serious amount of work in to become the fighters they are.
It would do you well to remember that fact. Either be appreciative of the fact that they put their bodies in danger for our entertainment, or **** off.:beerchug:
Lance Armstrong - what a freak.
Marius Pudsianowski - what a freak.
Usain Bolt - what a freak.
Also, co-ordination is a physical gift. If you remember this fact, it opens up a great deal of sports to be considered e.g.
Sachin Tendulkar - the way he has picked 90mph balls and sent them to the boundary with minimal movement, is unrivalled. A true physical gift (oh, and he's been doing it internationally since he was 15 - he's now 37)
WHAT!!! How did HE have a point deducted???
Cruel, cruel round - first he gets a point deducted when in fact Murray should have had a point deducted. Then he gets counted when he was actually pushed down. Unlucky lad - you fought will balls of titanium plated steel.
If you think McCloskey is awkward then look no further than Bradley. Khan speed was neutralized by the awkwardness and elusiveness of McCloskey, he was missing and cuffing, and looked sloppy. Khan looked worried after the 5'th round and was coming in with wide punches (obviously looking for the knock-out), the game-plan went to the shredder, and Khan looked to be running out of idea's.
Bradley is a different caliber fighter to McCloskey, with his elusive and unpredictability - I think Khan will have major problems. Bradley is the type of fighter with a strong mentality and can disorientate his opponent, he'll do whatever it takes to make things ugly and come away with the win. I feel Khan will end up sucked into the tactics of Bradley.
Yup...Bradley is his worse nightmare, in my opinion. He looks good against fighters such as Kotelnik, Maidana, who are there to be hit, but anyone with a bit of upper body movement and head movement are going to cause Khan problems.
Bradley has his number, I'm sure of it.
I can see what you're saying. Who is the girl in the avatar?
LOL. Good one OP.
Either it is a reading comprehension problem on most of the responders' part, or I'm failing to detect their sarcasm, but I'm pretty sure the OP was well aware of exactly what he was saying. He was being sarcastic.
No wonder you're nuthugging a piss drinking bum who ducked his betters, El Terrible and MAB.
Yeah, I'm working through El Terrible and MAB's fights too. And yes, they look incredible too.
Regardless of you mouthing off about nuthuggery and piss-drinking etc. my point still stands. The guy seemed to be able to fire off a 4-5 combination like it were breathing air.
He's still one of the best. Watch his next fight, we'll probably see him in the next 3-4 months.
Will do. It is just that after hearing a ton of people on this board suggesting that Khan should be ashamed if he ever took a fight with JMM + watching the beating vs Mayweather (ok, it was Mayweather and JMM presumably had to climb quite high in weight) I just got this impression that he might be considered past it.
Like I said, haven't seen a recent fight of his, so my view of his current abilities was coloured by what a lot of people on these boards say.
If he is still half the fighter that I saw in those clips above, would it be fair to say that he could still be competitive against the top 147ers?
He's the most precise combination puncher, best offensive fighter right now in my opinion.
Holy ****; who is the guy he just knocked down at around 1:33-1:35? Those were three incredible punches.
Uhh it's not "mouthing off". He ACTUALLY DRINKS PISS. YouTube it.
Irrelevent. So he drinks piss. Big deal. Does he make you drink piss? No?
I'm talking about his boxing, movement and combinations.
Khan will need to be aggressive and set a precedent early. If he begins moving backwards to avoid Tim's approach, then he is effectively robbing himself of all his best assets.
Difficult dilemma for Khan.
He can either play it safe and keep out of range, but this kills his best assets (speed and straight combinations)
OR
He can utilise his advantages and pop off on Tim, but this exposes him to Tim's best shots also.
Which is why he is such an exciting fighter.
BTW, does anyone think that he moves around TOO much in the opening rounds? I've seem him bounce around the ring whilst the opponent sits in the middle catching his breath. Just seems like his tension and excessive movement around the ring robs him of crucial oxygen and energy.
Let me know what you all think
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Haha, brilliant.
Who the hell is the girl on your sig? I'll pay you a million dollars for that information.
If that is the argument that you're involved in, then this is how I'd tackle it:
"I think boxing is better because I enjoy it more."
IF you are dense enough to attempt that "MMA has no skillz" line of argument, then you're a candidate for the ****ing Darwin award.
There is considerable skill involved in both sports. One doesn't involve more or less skill.
Sure, to a boxing fan, MMA stand-up might seem rubbish and one-dimensional, but this is because those MMA fighters have to consider the following:
1) Leg kicks
2) Take-downs
3) Small, small gloves making it very hard to cover up
Please, please do not be dumb enough to argue that one is better than the other, because one boxer beat one UFC dude.
If Muhammad Ali had no arms, would he have become world champion?
If Superman couldn't fly, would he still be able to save the world?
If cobras weren't venemous, would they still kill people?
If Usain Bolt had become a doctor, would he have the 100m record?
IF OP WEREN'T SUCH A DUMB MOTHER****ER, WOULD HE HAVE STARTED SUCH AN INANE THREAD???
A bad chin and speedy hands.
Always a second away from being knocked out, and yet seconds away from delighting with a great jab which connects fully with the opponent's nose ...
Love him or hate him, you can't deny that he is exciting to watch quite simply because anything is possible!
Logic fail Da Prince:
If, as you say, MMA fighters are gassed so quickly, doesn't this say something about the high demands that MMA puts on your systems? What a dumbass.
That's like saying chess is a more physically demanding sport than boxing because:
a) It can last longer
b) They aren't gassed by the end
MMA and/or wrestling (BJJ etc) are EXTREMELY demanding. Try being pinned under an exceptionally strong guy in Judo - try getting out of that and you'll realise that in terms of the endurance and strength required, these sports have the potential to outdo boxing.
THAT said, boxing is unique in that its demands on the body go beyond strength/endurance. You've got your brain (literally) on the line. As far as functioning organs go, it is the most important and thus, boxing's demands are unique.
And finally, for those who compare (and laud) boxing as obviously tougher than running/team sports such as football, rugby, American Football are missing an obvious trick. The potential for major limb injury as a consequence of running, slipping, twisting etc (think knee ligaments, ankles etc) is far higher than in boxing. Whilst there is that risk in boxing, it is less so than in rugby etc where you could land awkwardly whilst running and then be tackled by a 20 stone behemoth, thus forcing you into injury for a long time.
But this is taking nothing away from boxing. It is unique in character and places a whole different category of demands on the body. Not to mention the stamina required just to keep your hands up lol.
I posted this to get some feedback from fans .... and it would seem that only a few picked up on the irony.
Khan's situation is strikingly similar to Brooks, minus the obvious opponent variations and perceived totem pole levels.
Dirk asked "What is controversial about them?"
Its not a question of controversy, its an observation that many boxer's and even fans do not acknowledge exist. That without an active authoritative organization few if any boxer's will ever get the shot they think they deserve. This authority used to be the governing bodies within boxing. Now, the so-called governing bodies apparently can't even regulate or dictate who deserves a shot at their titles.
And it further raises the concern where popularity enables some to dictate what happens and with whom, to the detriment of the sport. What happens when the most popular boxer's who enjoy such dictatorial power retire?
When the big names start to retire, its going to become a major concern for those who are late to the realization, that in reality, they have no leverage at all without a functioning governing organization in boxing.
This may be a fly-by for some so-called fans ...
This. This is correct.
That said, do you think that the nature of boxing (i.e. boxers can only fight 3-4 times per year, perhaps due to health concerns) means that the only way it will ever run is through a popularity contest, since we'll never ever get to see a round robin of the top 10-20 fighters? Fewer fights means each fight draws a bigger chunk of revenue, meaning you have to make the most popular fights to survive as a sport/organisation/entity meaning you bow to the momentum of popularity rather than a centrally organised, scheduled set of fights?
But yes, I think you hit the nail on the head.
When humans die out and the aliens finally come to visit earth, I hope that this is the first thing they see. Then they will call us gods!
Funniest thing I've seen in years - please add more.