I thought Manny Pacquiao won, but it was a close fight. I wasn't really doing a running score, but I feel like it was probably 115-113 for Manny. 115-113 form Horn is acceptable but 117-111 is a disgrace. Either way, Manny is clearly washed up, probably better that Horn won. Don't really want to see Manny fight again, he needs to hang them up.
I think he beats Thurman. They are similar in height & Crawford is still filling out. Crawford is faster, has better technique & solid power which I think will carry up to 147. He would catch Thurman in between his wild swings.
Not sure if he beats Spence, purely due to the size difference. Spence is a big WW and could be too much.
Overall, I think Bud is a more complete fighter than both guys and he is something special.
Load of rubbish and even so, it's irrelevant.
A 35 year old "declining" GGG who has apparently never faced anyone, dominated a 27 year old prime Canelo. Canelo is a digrace.
All red-headed Mexicans are bastards in their fathers eyes.
Round 1 - Canelo
Round 2 - Canelo
Round 3 - GGG
Round 10 - GGG
Round 11 - Canelo
Round 12 - Canelo
7 Rounds to 5 GGG the Winner. A draw is not out of the question though.
Kovalev arguably beat No.1 P4P Ward in the first fight. He was highly even with Ward for most of the 2nd fight until he faded. How is he a fraud?
GGG outboxed Daniel Jacobs, the No.2 middleweight. He beat Canelo, the face of boxing and was robbed. So once again, how is he a fraud?
People talk about Canelo going to the body and hurting GGG. Don't forget GGG has devastating body punches that will definitely destroy Canelo if he lands. The only fighters he had trouble landing to body are those that have good footwork and move. Canelo will be stationary.
This is boxing, not soccer. Everybody knows the risks involved with a backyard unsanctioned fight let alone a professional contest where you sign the "In Case Of Death" waiver long before you step in the ring. One of the last true gladiator sports left in a world that clearly has gone softer than a jar of banana baby f,ood. If you want to mention Adonis Stevenson, Patrick Day, and Maxim Dadashev, you need to mention the fighters that have no choice but to box as a living. The Losers, who have 20-23 or 20-50 records who time after time get in the ring because it's a check to collect. Deontay Wilders ego wants him to be feared as a viscious puncher. He has shown he can punch, but can that punch make him the undisputed heavyweight champion. Should he be able to put a body on his record, who knows the psychological affect that is going to have on him as a fighter. Mike Perez was never the same after the Magomed Abdusalamov fight. Sergey Kovalev had an opponent die after a contest and he never lost a wink of sleep. He kept on his rise to a world title. Now he is going into the biggest money fight of his life. Because you do not like what was said you still made a post about it and brought more attention to Deontay Wilder and his words. Making polarizing comments in boxing is nothing new, and a lot of the time comments are made in poor taste. But you remember who made those comments and you are going to watch to see them lose or to see them win if you agree with them. I personally like and put my support behind Deontay Wilder. It was like he came out of nowhere to make the Olympics when Adam Willet was the number 1 heavyweight in the country for the past 2 years before then. He said what he said. We will see how he backs it up.
Thanks for the essay but what’s your point? You haven’t justified anything other than say that there is a risk of dying in boxing. Then again, you probably are from USA which is probably the most backwards country in the world.
Why dont you just call out whoever did support those remarks in any old thread vs make some blanket claim some unknown person or minority of people said?
These everybody aimed threads that are usually about 2 or 3 people are f#cking stupid & just cherry picking the dumbest mfers here to make you feel like a good guy or w/e you get from this silly ass sh^t.
And why don’t you snack on my hairy cameltoe you zubbard.
Because some people...people like you can’t separate fight talk from real life murder.
As I said, please quote the above mentioned fighters and tell me this ain’t real life.
Every top fighter goes into the ring with a kill or be killed mentality.
I support Wilder for being honest about it.
So you support Wilder for saying he wants to literally kill someone in the ring? Ok, now please justify why that is acceptable in light of recent events?
Tyson had devastating power in both hand and could bang the head and body.
Wilder only has power (freakish power) in the right hand. How often has Wilder hurt someone with a left hook? When has he ever gone to the body?
Parker by KO or Decision. His last 3 fights have all been against much taller opponents who were 6ft 6 + (Joshua, Fury and Konjanu). Whyte is same height with slight reach advantage. I say Parker bashes him good. Parker is still young for a heavyweight and is not in his prime yet.
Out of the 4 champions, I have Bivol and Alvarez as the most skilled/well-rounded and would pick them over Stevenson or Beterbiev. I think Gvozydk is overrated and haven’t been impressed with him lately.
Big difference between GGG and Kovalev.
We have seen Kovalev hurt before. He was dropped by Darnell Boone in the first fight and visibly hurt by an Andre Ward right hand in the second fight. He also is known not to be the most disciplined fighter in training camp with the drinking and stuff.
We have never seen GGG hurt in a fight to the point where you think he is in danger of getting KO'd or dropped. He may of been stunned a couple of times. He ate Canelo's best shots and didn't even budge. No way he is getting stopped in this fight.
If anything, Canelo will get stopped. GGG is coming in with a purpose. He knows he was robbed first fight. He knows this fight is a must win for him to cement his legacy. Plus he is probably pissed at Canelo for the drug issues and looking to do some damage. The occassion got to him last time. You could tell he was nervous in the early rounds and was not as sharp as usual. I think he will be switched on from Round 1, go to the body more and cut off the ring. Late stoppage win for GGG.
I honestly think GGG was shocked by Canelo's speed, slickness and movement.
Must of thrown him off big time, especially in the first few rounds. I think he will be much better prepared this time. Hopefully he has figured out how to time Canelo with his right hand because every time he threw it, he just missed as Canelo was evasive. No doubt if he lands it clean, Ginger will be sleeping early in Las Vegas.
Of course he is past his prime. He started to deteriorate after David Lemieux fight.
However, in saying that, he is still an elite fighter and the number one Middleweight in the world. Even a 36 year old GGG can still probably beat all top middleweights and contenders as we speak.
This does not translate to punching in the ring. Those are not even real punches. Just moving the hands. He will get KO'd if he has his hands down like that.
Besides, that is not a long flurry. No way he can maintain that intensity for a 3 minute round.
Ginger looking small. GGG by murder.
I thought GGG looked the worst I ever seen him look in the first rd or three of the first fight with Canelo. Thats not to say Canelo streamrolled him or anything, but physically he looked & moved like a older man. He seemed dad-ish in the ring for lack of a better way to describe it. I was thinking for a minute this was gonna be a one sided schooling by Canelo.
To GGG's credit he started turning things around after those first few rounds, but if he still looked very un-GGG-like in those first couple rds & I've never seen him look that worn/old/out of it.
Maybe something was going on with him, maybe the bright lights of that fight impacted him starting up right off or something, but maybe its a sign of him hitting a certain mile marker on his body.
I think its a possibility we see something similar in this fight cuz Canelo is a much more adaptable fighter & if he gots his stamina improved to fight 3mins of each rd I think its possible that Byrd card last time out could be a legit score this time out. Possible not probable for the fanboys who might wanna freak out over my last remark with their dummy ass.
Firstly, I am a massive GGG fan - he is my favorite fighter.
I do agree with you though. I thought GGG won this fight 8-4 / 7-5 but it was definitely the worst he ever looked. He was slow, sloppy, wild and his body punching/ring cutting abilities were absent. This was very strange. Even though the Jacobs fight was close, GGG was still technically sound and fought well. Jacobs was just a great challenger.
In my opinion, part of it has do with the skill of Canelo but something was off with that fight. Even the Vanes fight, he looked pretty good. It could of just been an off night for GGG. I fully expect him to come out and show us the GGG we used to know. A sharp solid jab, regular body punches, left hooks and a much better job at cutting off the ring.
you realise most good boxers with decent speed can do this without gloves? i've even seen McGregor do it haha.
it's nice to see and looks impressive but it's not even a punching technique you would see in a fight. stand in a ring and to this in the video and you would end up on your back. It's more like a party trick than an effective technique.
Can't agree more my friend. It amazes me how some people are so "Wow'd" by this.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/6201560/tyson-fury-husky-voice-throat-blood-clot/
He got punched in the throat during sparring and has a blood clot in his throat.
Could of got it removed by now but has chosen not to.
He is not a top 5 ATG but I would put him in the top 10 if he finished his career on a high.
He still has a chance to put a few more good names on his resume i.g. Charlo, Saunders, Murata or Canelo (in a trilogy).
Either way, I think he will be appreciated once he retires.
Who cares?! He probably made over $60 million between the Brook, Jacobs and Canelo fights. That is more money that all the GGG haters will make in their lifetime combined.
he's like 5'4" and has like 6% bodyfat plus he's dehydrated as ****.
Do you realise how short 5'4" is?
Bradley is 5' 6" and is 147lbs.
I am both shorter and heavier than Bradley and would consider myself pretty well developed and muscular but still he is way bigger than me. Look at the guys biceps, they are like towers.
He reminds me of Cornelius k9 Bundrage and Sakio Bika. Massvie upper bodies but stick insect legs.
I don't think he would ever get a fight with Floyd for the following reasons:
1. Floyd doesn't know who he is
2. Mundine isn't big enough in the USA and won't give Floyd a big payday like he had with Alvarez
3. Mundine is way too big and strong for Floyd and probably just as fast. Floyd wouldn't take the fight even if Mundine was a mandatory.
In saying that, I do think Mundine would easily beat the likes of Carlos Molina, Canelo Alvarez. A fight with Lara is a close call but I'd say Lara would be too craft for Mundine and his age will catch up to him.