And no a title defense starts when you own a belt, interim or not. Not saying its a good thing but its how stats are counted. GGG has 20 defenses, you literally can't dispute it lol
naa his first was Geale, or right after it.
"actually" doesnt come into it, it just starts when he won his first recognised top of the world belt.
Defending an interim title or regular title counts as a title defense just as a super title. You don't follow this sport much, huh?
"reg" is not the belt. the WBC/A each can offer one world belt, since there is only one world.
Come back when you have evidence that there are two worlds.
Hopefully. One title per sanctioning body. I understand interims if someone is out for an extended period with injury but other than that no need for more than one belt per body
I understand the WBA are doing away with all that crap.
Def not memorable. Just like wade or Monroe wasn't memorable but for some reason you wanna count those? Lol just stop.
musta forgot, or not memorable for involving the world title?
Why comment just to say outlandish stuff?
I’ll give him about a 2 or 3 and bump it to a 4 if he wins but since Canelo is gonna win it will stay at two!!!
Lmfao nah you were trying to be catty because you're upset.
i was just being equal amongst the sexes by not assuming you were male, you already done that with me so it was 50/50 you werent.
Some femmes are going to be upset you think being a women is an insult. Good luck sorting that out.
I have no clue what you said. If you're making fun of me for using proper grammar then you're just looking more like a fool. You clearly have very biased opinions towards the sport. You should start a troll thread for people who don't know much about boxing.
Now you're using your ****en alts, lmao. ****en lame...
Actually he's had exactly 20 defenses....do a little research before commenting stuff that can be disproven by a simple boxrec search
He hasn't had 20 title defences.
Agreed. Usually one american vs someone from another country. That's what brings the cash in
Two American fighters typically doesn’t lead to a mega fight
Fulfilling a mandatory, gets him away from mandatory status for another year which I hope will lead him to pursuing bigger names and unification. Gotta keep in mind, Dsg and Porter weren't available and neither is Thurman, with those names out might as well get the mandatory out of the way. Ortiz, Alexander or Berto would also be that big of underdogs and it wouldn't help fulfill Spence's mandatory. The other guys you named arent any more relevant than ocampo. Just my take
Are you kidding me? The dude is a 45-1 underdog. This is the type of fighter he should be fighting as his first fight as a pro.
And don't give me the "everyone is scared" BS
You telling me he couldn't get a Victor Ortiz, Berto, Alexander or the other Peterson brother? Hell even Joshua Clottey or at least a name who used to be good with an actual chance to make Spence look bad.
This is unacceptable. And I'm disgusted
So 8 or 6? Just answer the question since I can't make you look inconsistent. Call PAC a 6 division champ if you wanna say GGG only has 10 defenses
I only count his actual world titles, are you trying to make me look inconsistent? that wont work, I'm not.
Actually they do which is why many record holders for consecutive defenses started with their reg or interim and led to them beating the main champ and every single one counted.....like I said do some research
"Regular" titles don't count. Nice try though.
What about it? IBF rankings are garbage and Spence fulfilled a mandatory against a nobody. I'm saying you look silly because of your rage. If you think this is an alt account of someone else you're mistaken. This is oldurty, I just scrapped my IG.
Justify this sycophant the alt.
IBF Champion: Errol Spence
1. NOT RATED
2. Yordenis Ugas
3. Carlos Ocampo
4. Jessie Vargas
5. Devon Alexander
6. Qudratillo Abduqaxorov
7. Kerman Lejarraga
8. Keita Obara
9. Konstantin Ponomarev
10. Zhankhozh Turarov
11. Rashidi Ellis
12. Carlos Adames
13. Laszlo Toth
14. Cesar Barrionuevo
15. Egidijus Kavaliauskas
You're referring to the stance martin also has but no protruding gut, correct?
He has a slight anterior hip tilt, his lower back is slightly arched, lower stomach protrudes.
GH/Roid gut is more down to insulin use and extremely high cal’s, I’m sure the OP will blatantly ignore this tho....
Lol true. I get rooting for your country but some people take it overboard. Saw a guy from Britain have BJS in his top 5 p4p list haha
hell no........ beating two guys coming off losses (brook and lara) does not make you pound for pound number 1 although the yanks will probably have him number 1 and crawford number 2 if he did.
Its 2010s. Who has done more? 3 division champ, fully unified a division and now stepping up into arguably the toughest division in boxing all in this decade. Obviously this opinion can change with 1 1/2 years left of the decade but who would you put ahead of him? I debated with loma but his resume is kind of short, stacked but still short. GGG gets a pass on the best of the decade from me fighting guys like vanes, Monroe, wade, etc. I will say if loma beats Mikey id put him over Crawford but not until then
crawford fighter of the decade lol, talk about american bias on here, this forum is getting ****ing ridiculous. you know what i need some time off from posting on here
Jermall moved up to 60 a good bit ago.
Both Charlo's ain't at 160 & Hurd isn't either. This is a heavy on the fantasy 160lb fantasy tournament lol. I'd think Derevyanchenko at least deserved in even if you do wanna leave out Murata.
But yea I agree with Bolio. Top 2 are fighting in September.
And the rest got something to prove still. I wouldn't mind a 4 man mini tournament for the #3 spot & the next title shot in May 2019 between BJS, Jacobs, Charlo & Derevyanchko.
Lol the GGG haters even in posts that don't involve him. You care about golovkin A LOT. I'm sure he appreciates it
Probably because we use Golovkin as a benchmark and he got 37 or more passes!!! Next!!
Hold on you have no problem with me putting jermell in there but a problem with me putting the MUCH larger Hurd in? That's silly
No thanks for me. The two best middleweights are already fighting in September in my opinion. Hurd is not a middleweight and has never defeated a middleweight. Leave him out for now. Let the other two best middleweights Jacobs and Jermall fight each other and the winner gets a fight with the GGG vs Canelo winner. Saunders and Andrade are both awful cherry pickers. Fuc them until they fight a top middleweight. Hell, give Andrade a shot at Saunders's phony title.
How am I putting him down? You're the one disputing his consecutive defenses as less. Dude you make literally no sense
stop trying to put GGG down, guys he has a top ten legacy for sure at MW.
To my understanding, Eddie sent over a contract with the final details (date, venue, other little misc things) early this morning. Hopefully things will be more clear in the coming days, having a hard time figuring this one out myseld
So far there has been no word or contract from Eddie Hearn or Team Joshua since Wilder agreed to all of their terms earlier this week. Thus far, we haven't so much as heard a peep out of them.
Like I said 154 fighters will be brought in to make this FANTASY tourney with more high profile fights. Dereyvenchenko or murata gets stopped by hurd or jermell
Like I said BOTH of them aren't at 160. Only one is. Hurd ain't at 160 either.
Here's a look at the first round if it were to be done by the boxrec rankings (obviously I know they have a flawed point system lol but easiest way to seed them)
(1) Crawford vs (8) Peterson
(4) DSG vs (5) Porter
(2) Spence vs (7) Vargas
(3) Pacquiao vs (6) Horn
Sounds like a good tourney to me lol
You're making yourself look silly
You say the same **** to other posters you ****en lame. Nobody gives a rats as what you think. The IBF rankings are frauds. And youre a fraud fan for defending their position. Fraud.