How did Martin get robbed then? Bud put himself in that mandatory position he didn't just magically end up there, Vargas doesn't have the same confidence he could be a unified WW champion but doesn't fancy the job.
Also what superstars will Vargas be fighting in the next 3 fights as you said? Bob doesn't have any right now
Edit: I'm a boxing fan not a fan of single fighters, that's the problem with you fans these days you let your love/hate for certain fighters get in the way of common sense.
What he said, up there!
Some boxers are just like most of the youth nowadays, nobody wants to do anything hard! Nobody wants to take a chance! It's all about me and if I mess up it's somebody else's fault. Back in the day its was just lace'em up and let'em fly!
A boxing fan on boxingscene is going to be passionate about their opinions. It's true what new england said that some fans are all about who they can identify with and root for that color/flag no matter what, but that goes both ways (the racists)
But it's not entirely a race war at all. How about the fans who don't like
GGG but love Kovalev? Or like Wlad, or like Lomachenko, Frampton? So these people are conviniently racist because you do not want to admit that maybe they're not, maybe they just don't like your favorite fighter
As far as making it stop, this has been ongoing for a long time now and after all of us leave it will still go on. Boxing is a sport with passionate fans who will say their opinions, be it race driven or them being objective
Very good post! Passionate is a great way to describe us all or we wouldnt be here. If you bring race into it then personally I think you're a simple minded person. I've been a boxer since I was a young kid and I've been a fan all of my life, RACE has nothing to do with it. Simple as that.
Anyone else get all excited when they wake up the morning of a big fight? Lol, I'm like a kid on Christmas morning. Can't wait for the fight tonight, I'll take Crawford by UD 116-112 in a great fight. Postal is a good fighter and poses some problems for TC but I think the ability to switch styles and the athleticism of Crawford will win him the fight...
Enjoy the fights fellas!!!!!
Poll added for your pick...
Agreed! Think Crawford wins it.
I dont think it would be a one sided fight from either fighter. Both have tremendous skills. Honestly I dont care who wins, I just wanna see good fights. Stop with the Khan, Brook type stuff.
Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin Poll!!!!!!!!
Canelo's notable wins - Shane Mosley, Austin Trout, Erislandy Lara, James Kirkland, Miguel Cotto, and Amir Khan (Most likely Liam Smith)
Golovkin's notable wins - Dainel Geale, Martin Murray, and David Lemiux (Most likely Kell Brook)
Canelo - Never been knocked down, known for lighting fast speed and slick counter punching
Golovkin - Never been knocked down, known for iron type fist and breaking down opponents
This one should be a barn burner! Almost too close to call.
I could be wrong but I'd bet the farm on this fact, "Money runs the show! Period." There will be no match ups of any "known" fighters unless the money is right for all the players behind the scenes." Unfortunately money ruins alot of things these days.
I can understand the anger some of you have but there comes a point where nearly every 2nd post is just vitriol and pretty disgraceful posting.
I signed up pretty recently after being just a reader for a while because some of the posts are just mental.
I think some of you need to direct your hate towards the management of the sport itself and less so towards the boxers themselves. A couple key points on this.
1. IT IS 2016, IT IS INCREDIBLY HARD TO MAKE A FIGHT BETWEEN TWO TOP GUYS. The reason you're seeing so many one sided defences and title fights is because it's not easy for these guys to fight other top guys. These guys are being managed by business men, not boxing men. I HATE the cherry picks. I hate the weak resumes of nearly all the top guys. My favourite fighters in GGG, Kovalev etc... These guys have such poor resumes in comparison to their skill set... This can be partly because of management and also a big part is because...
2. THE BUSINESS/FANS ARE SO FICKLE THESE DAYS, just one loss can be so damaging to a career if guys want to be at the 'top'. We live in the age where you're either a bum or a god. Some "fans" are so bipolar that their is no in between in their eyes. I've seen posts saying Lemueix, Groves, Eubank, Breazeale, Porter etc are bums... Jesus. Bums? These type of guys have always been around. Not elite, but good high level guys capable of giving the top guys good fights. Every sport has them.
3. ABC belts have given these companies and some of the top guys a false sense of what they want to be making as a fighter. Everyone thinks they are worth more but no one wants to take the risks to build their name because a loss is so damaging. Back when, there was one champ per division. HE MADE THE MONEY. You want that money? You climb the ranks and take that belt. Nowadays, you got 4-5 "champs" per division, half of which couldn't even be named by some fans. But because of those paper titles these guys think they should be earning 5mil a fight.
Now having said all of that... Some of these boxers aren't daring to be great.. But instead of the hate, have a think about why. It's unfortunately the nature of boxing at the moment. I don't blame these guys. I blame the sport itself. Hope to hear some level headed discussion and if I've missed anything love to hear some thoughts?
Cheers guys.
Great post! It's all about the money nowadays! Follow the trail, you'll see.
I'd watch it cuz I try to watch all the boxing I can, but I don't think I've ever been excited in seeing anyone's comeback except maybe Foreman's so Floyd would be no different.
Usually my interest in a boxer starts to diminish the older they get as well so it's like a combo of unappealing **** to me when an older boxer comes back.
Agreed! Hey Panda, I'm kinda new here, can you tell me why my rep power went from green with a one to the orange/red color it is now with a 0? Don't mean to sound dumb, I just don't know.
This is real life not fantasy land. Like Broner said, "My kids can't eat belt soup!". I've seen an IBF strap for sale on pawn stars. What I'm getting at is if you had a belt but were broke its $ over a belt. It's like that even if you arnt broke. Look at Cotto. He would have had to pay $800,000 to keep his WBC title. In real life, not fantasy world but real life, you're telling me you'd pay $800,000 just so an organization will call you it's "official" champion?
No no, not at all. Not about the money. Its pride. Guess I didnt get my point across.
Yes my friend he still has his invisible powers...pssst...rumors have it he is St. Nick aka Santa Claus...
ok great! I'll come down from the cliff now. Man I really appreciate you clarifying that. Glad to see there's someone like myself who can keep a sense of humor thru all of this madness in our sport of boxing that we all love so dearly. I'm sure it went on back in the day, guess it was hid better or we were just too damn blind to see it. Either way I hate the path we're on.
Just to be a pro boxer you have to have that killer instinct, to drop that belt would be hardest thing I could ever do. I'm giving you my belt because of (fill in the blank). Money be damned! No way, no how.
OK...Please lets stop the nonsense...next you'll be saying he can fly, breathe underwater, walk on water, walk thru walls...etc. while yes it is clear Canelo does not want part of him. There are other fighters in the middlewgt divison that are worthy of a title shot;
-Jacobs
-Saunders
-Eubank,Jr.
-Quillin (only lost one fight)
I'd rather see him fight any of the above fighters than anyone else not named Canelo...make it happen Boxing Gods...make it happen.
you mean GGG can't fly? But he still has the invisible powers, right?
Canelo is big enough where he can literally fight anyone regardless of their network/promoter affiliation. Don't believe me? he just fought Khan who is one of Haymon's bigger name fighters despite the fact that Khan has fought exclusively on Showtime and PBC for the last 5 years. And Golden Boy is currently suing Haymon for hundred millions. Yet Khan crossed over to HBO to fight Canelo a golden boy fighter for a career high payday. Canelo can fight any fighter he wants because you make more money fighting him then anyone else.
So sad, but so true. Money fking ruins EVERYTHING! So glad Im broke.