I didn't watch that crap, and I wouldn't believe it. I know what type of person Al Haymon is. He only cares about Money.
why would a brother lie about sumthing he said to his brother???especially when it relates to lost family members???that makes no sense and u make no sense.
That's funny, I thought Clottey was defensive minded. What was I thinking?? :dunno:
clottey doesnt have good foot movement, he doesnt slip punches and he's wayy to stationary. i think what he meant is a real defensive minded fighter that doesnt rely on a peek a boo defense as his only defense.
roach has taught him well. pac has become a rythem fighter. if u look carefully, he's not rly dodging on reflex, its all part of his rhythem. this illustrates roach's skill as a coach because he knew it was impossible for pac to depelop reflex at this point in his career. so teach him rhythem, and he becomes hard to hit.
good team those two. but yes pac is def a much improved fighter, regardless of whether u like him or not.
pac gets hit by right hands. fact.
pac cant beat a slick fighter. myth.
pac cant beat a slick fighter with mayweather's skills. something i believe and something im more than anxious to find out.
didn't say there was anything wrong with it. someone has to be the heel.
or u could have both fighters laughin at each other like pac and clottey...tht had to be the worse promotion ive ever witnessed.
Why the **** are the hbo commentators obsessed with stopping the fight?
mebbe becuz the poor guy is getting battered for no reason. and his corner has no good advice. its over, no need to take unnecessary punishment.
We know Al Haymon told Berto to pull out, Berto is nothing more then a puppet. Its sad that Berto lost cousins, uncles, aunts, in Haitis. But, parents like your father and mother are the closest family most people have. And Buster Douglass's mom died a week before the Tyson fight. Did Buster Douglass get emo and say cancel the fight. No, Buster Douglass went out their and pulled one of the biggest upsets off in history of boxing.
I was very disappointed that Al Haymon talked Berto out of not fighting Mosley.
dude, did u not watch the segment b4 the fight where his brother clearly stated that he told him to pull out of the fight???if ur not gonna come with facts, dnt post lies and nonsense without evidence.
you could say the same about floyd. He didn't face a southpaw who throws weird angle of punches who is a strong and as fast as him.
judah does all of those but the weird angles.
yeah add to that judah lacks the stamina and pac can throw those punches in bunches for the whole 12 rounds.
i just said judah does all of those but the punches...
I know Bully is an objective poster, but I find it funny how all these die hard Floyd fans were picking Berto to beat Mosley. Some were picking Shane, but most weren't. Even Larry X was picking Berto to beat Shane and he's one of the more objective Floyd fans on this site. And Jeff Mayweather looks just like the guy in Bully's sig. Idn Admin? Is that how you spell the guy's name?
i wasnt around at the time, but any objective person who saw berto's last fight kenw there was no way in hell he was beating shane. idc what their excuse was for trying to justify it.
i like berto, but shane is just too mu h for the guy rite now.
u guys obviously dnt kno nothin about bruce lee. his skills extended far oustides of the movieset. in fact, brue became famous for making real action kung fu movies. he could do everything he did in the movies in real life.
he was a top notch martial artists. there wasnt many ppl in the world tht could beat him in a street fight. point. blank. period.
Who "hand picked" is irrelevant... the notion that he was "Hand Picked" is a testament to the Greatness of Manny Pacquiao.
come on, if u cnt tell roach picked clottey, ur smokin sumthin. who has clottey ever beat???when u answer that, then u'll have ur answer to him being hand picked. clottey isnt great. he barely qualifies as good. he has no heart.
Floyd Mayweather is an ATG fighter. He doesn't need convincing wins over Shane and Manny to prove that. Winning those fights would put him right up there with the best to ever lace them up.
this...the thing thats holding him back from ever reaching the top 15-20 list is he didnt fight everyone he could have for whatever reason. but he will finish his career within the top 30 or so. if he beats both pac and mosely, easily top 25.
lol,
can you tell me the last time Marquez fought at WW before he fought Floyd?
Wait, what do you mean he never did?
:spankme:
paul williams has not been fighting at ww and he has been tied up to fights. he wasnt moving down from mw to ww in one fight. be serious. and name one top fighter that was willing to take the risk of fighting williams at the lower weights anyways.
this link's all about black soldiers in the philippines during the war. a lot of them realized they were on the wrong side of the conflict.
http://philippineamericanwar.webs.com/thewarin19001901.htm
black sodiers often do feel that way and for good reason. ive also read of instances of the us using apache scouts to fight for them too. this made the war especially bloddy because the apache were just as good at the gureilla tactics the pinoys were uisng. it would have been interesting to see how these men felt fighitng for a people who had just destroyed their way of life and their people just years b4.
goes both ways easily...pac fans were hyping shane tlking about may would never fight him. now tht he does, shane is old. all of u "boxing fans" have an agenda when u guys make threads to hate on a fighter u dnt like. i steer clear of all tht. who cares about what "fans" have to say, especially when 90% is not true.
the sad part about this site is u call sum1 out on their bull, and they neg u and give ur red ks. and its not the flomos that pull tht bitch move.
In my mind,,,, starving a person to death is just as bad if not worst than puting a bullet in his head....
If 250-000 to 1 million is a whole fukking lot of people however you look at it...
But, I thank you for not downplaying what the Pinoys went through like some of these retards...
ur rite about the civilian casualties. its something i have made the mistake of overlooking and i sholdnt.but from all acoount ive heard of the war, the us was a slaughter machine and the pinoys didnt stand much chance at all unless they fought using guerilla tactics. the war wasnt fair, it was a pointless waste of lives and its one of many black eyes on the history of our nation. my ppl have suffered as well along with a number of groups such as the mexicans and especially the native americans. its sad ppl rnt interested in learning about these sad histories and its even worse that none of this is in the text books. everything ive learned, ive learned from independent research done in college.
Juan Manuel Marquez never fought at welterweight, much less jr. welterweight before.
Why does it matter if Paul hasn't fought at 147 for awhile? He in fact did though, and even held a title there.
Marquez never fought there, ever, and it was quite alright to a whole lot of you.
Can you explain the double standard?
that has nothing to do with nothing. there is no double standard. paul williams had fights lined up at higher weights. no1 at welter was looking to fight him and he wasnt looking at fighting any1 at welter either. the 2 situations rnt the same. jmm wanted to move up, chasing pac and more money.
williams isnt a big draw and he makes any fight tough. there is not upside for floyd or manny or eve cotto to fight him. theres a chance he wins and there is no big payday. no1 at welter is interested in fightin him, thats why he moved up.
Whatever your argument is, it doesn't negate the fact that Clottey is a natural, Top 5 Welterweight... A Good Big Man... Manny only had one fight at Lightweight! Yeah he's been jumping around between 147 & 140, but he ain't no natural Welter. For him to handle Clottey in the manner he did, qualifies Manny as a Great fighter. And for Flomos (which u must be) to say that Clottey was handpicked is an indirect testament to how great Manny Pacquiao really is. Flomos have no other explanation but to say that Clottey was not really that good and he was hand picked. Fact of the matter is that Clottey is a top notch Welter that was made to look ordinary by a GREAT P4P fighter.
u buy into the hype because thts what hbo wants u to do. i dnt. manny is at welter right??then he should fight the best at welter, clottey isnt the best at anything. he dont have a belt, he didnt deserve a title shot, he doesnt have any buzz and he has never won a big fight. therefore he should not have been fighting the best fighter in the world. size means shit!!!!thats what u dudes dont get. size goes but so far. clottey has never been able to use his size to his advantage. i look at facts and call it how i see it. i dnt look at the hype shit sold to me by hbo and top rank. u can do that for the both of us. if u have no better argument besides he's been and hes a top 5 welter, then plz dnt bother to respond. i would rather manny fought bradley than clottey.
1) mosley didn't have nazeem when he fought cotto
2) cotto and evangelista were still working together when he got a hometown decision against mosley
3) mosley destroyed margo, you know, the same guy that beat cotto down
so much for triangle theories
clottey isnt very good. im tired of all this clottey hype. hes the worse type of fighter if u ask me. he has no heart. he doesnt kno how to win. and i dnt think he cares at all.
cotto, on the other hand, wasnt the same cotto ater tht fight. and ok, he got cut. so what ur sayin is cotto doesnt have any heart?? he decided to stop fightin after a cut. ive seen fighter with worse injuries keep on fighting all the way to victory so while thats an excuse, it isnt the best one.
STFU esse,,,,
You've been mad at Pinoys since Pac whooped all your Mexicant heroes...
BTW,,,, Pinoys have been in worste historical scenarious than Aparteid... Its just too bad you dont hear about it in your telenovelas you like watching...
thts not necessarily true. there is no worse when it comes to any of that stuff. i dnt get how ppl try to objectify and categorize ppl dying. the fact is ppl died. a lot of afticans died during era of the african slave trade. millions. at no time has millions of phillipinos been killed/kidnapped in tht manner. but i would never claim what, for example, the japanese did to the pinoys was any less gruesome in comparison.
come on bhop. ur ruining ur legacy. i never realized boxing was so addicting...these fighters never want to quit. shame...hopefully he doesnt get rly hurt.