I don't know if it's a case of being done or not that good, but he is at a stand still in his career right now when it comes to being able to compete with the best. Even if he beats Foreman, it is no measuring stick.
Let's be real here.. Williams is a bit hyped right about now and looked avg. against Martinez. Williams biggest asset is his freakish height and reach.. He is a natural middleweight fighting little welters man. Get off Williams cock already.
Williams struggles with slick lefties.
DUH!!!
You just fukking realizing that.
So is Cotto a natural 160 Pounder? Clottey? Berto?
The only way I could see Clottey beating Berto at this stage is if Berto's chin is just total shit. And there's no way he would beat Mosley. And I'd favor all the top 154 lbers over Clottey. All the top 140 lbers too. Remember, Cotto struggled with this guy.
clottey walks through berto and stops him. lets not forget how tough clottey is because of the bad effort against pac if you put berto in there with manny he doesnt last 3 rounds and it wouldnt matter if he fought defensive or not
I don't know if it's a case of being done or not that good, but he is at a stand still in his career right now when it comes to being able to compete with the best. Even if he beats Foreman, it is no measuring stick.
Cotto looked good in the Clottey fight. He just had to fight with a cut eye for 9 of 12 rounds. If you wanna say Cotto's done, blame it on Margarito and Pac kicking his ass. Clottey did well against him but didn't inflict any heavy damage.
Competitive my ass, You stupid cocksucker the only reason why Quintana didn't knock Williams is becaused he gassed. He didn't figure out shit he was getting his ass beat whenever Quintana had the energy to do so.
Williams won the last two rounds in the first fight and picked up where he left off in the rematch. Deal with it. Quintana's ass was up in the air when the side of his face slammed the canvass. He looked like a rape victim. It was funny.
So Quintana is superior to Williams according to you just because he won an 8-4 competitive fight of where Williams figured out his style in the last two rounds and picked off where he left off in the rematch. You're a fucking abomination. True story.
Competitive my ass, You stupid cocksucker the only reason why Quintana didn't knock Williams is becaused he gassed. He didn't figure out shit he was getting his ass beat whenever Quintana had the energy to do so.
Miguel had a huge gash that took 28 stitches to close, he was fighting with one eye.
But how about your boy Williams he got a one sided schooling from a guy that Cotto destroyed in five rounds, now that says a lot.
So Quintana is superior to Williams according to you just because he won an 8-4 competitive fight of where Williams figured out his style in the last two rounds and picked off where he left off in the rematch. You're a fucking abomination. True story.
people fail to realize that Clottey is a top 5 WW and very good fighter. He was just shook by Pac's power, which is not a bad thing considering what happened to Hatton and Cotto.
Real talk but Clottey beats Berto and I could see him possibly pulling an upset and beating Mosley.
Bullshit , Clottey was never phazed by Pacs power , he was paid to stand like a post and throw nothing , one of the worst fights Ive seen , it was like an exhibition .
clottey isnt very good. im tired of all this clottey hype. hes the worse type of fighter if u ask me. he has no heart. he doesnt kno how to win. and i dnt think he cares at all.
cotto, on the other hand, wasnt the same cotto ater tht fight. and ok, he got cut. so what ur sayin is cotto doesnt have any heart?? he decided to stop fightin after a cut. ive seen fighter with worse injuries keep on fighting all the way to victory so while thats an excuse, it isnt the best one.
Clottey is a bitch .. first he butted Cotto for the cut then ran away in the championship rounds from a guy who lost a shit load of blood and was cut..
What fight were you watching?:dunno:
I don't think Cotto will be elite again, but I won't use the Clottey fight as a gauge for that opinion. It's the thrashing he took from Pac afterward that may have taken his heart.
i thought cotto was in pretty high spirits after the fight.
I don't think Cotto will be elite again, but I won't use the Clottey fight as a gauge for that opinion. It's the thrashing he took from Pac afterward that may have taken his heart.
Clottey is a bitch .. first he butted Cotto for the cut then ran away in the championship rounds from a guy who lost a shit load of blood and was cut..
actually he wasn't running from cotto. the problem is clottey let a wounded animal (cotto) live.
I like Cotto cokk sucker. Im saying that Cotto was not the same guy idiot.
Ohh, Burner's getting touchy.
Look f@ggot I don't care if you like Miguel or not. Miguel is the same guy he's just had a few setbacks. And while I would agree that Clottey was not a good performance, he had a lot going against him.
do people forget the Clottey headbutted the hell out of him and he couldn't see?
if it wasn't for that big gash on his eyebrow he would've won more convincingly imo.
I also agree with somebody who said Clottey is a gatekeeper between good and elite, Clottey could give the fits to any top welterweight but that's about it, the problem with Clottey is that he chokes up when he has to step up the gas, he's just to hesitant.
In the Cotto post fight interview Clottey was asked why he stopped throwing, he simply said he didn't want to get caught by a wild shot considering Cotto still carries a good punch even when tired.
Same thing happened in the Pacquaio fight but during the entire night, he just didn't want to get caught, he even partially admitted it by saying at least he went to distance, which IMO is a horrible remark.
Miguel had a huge gash that took 28 stitches to close, he was fighting with one eye.
But how about your boy Williams he got a one sided schooling from a guy that Cotto destroyed in five rounds, now that says a lot.
I like Cotto cokk sucker. Im saying that Cotto was not the same guy idiot.
Clottey is not a good fighter. He has proven that time and time again. Just for Miguel to struggle with him says alot.
Miguel had a huge gash that took 28 stitches to close, he was fighting with one eye.
But how about your boy Williams he got a one sided schooling from a guy that Cotto destroyed in five rounds, now that says a lot.
Cintron and Taylor improved after they split ways with Steward. Taylor's boxing skills and defense actually improved but his chin and stamina didn't. I don't see Steward making a big difference for Cotto. I really don't.
cotto is better than cintron or taylor.
the only things missing in cotto's toolbox is a defense agaisnt right hands and uppercuts, and the ability to slow down the pace of a fight.
if steward can teach him these things, then cotto will get better.
Also, steward should be able to give cotto a real strategy for winning instead of cotto's basic game plan of brawlling for the early rounds, fighting in spurts for the middle rounds, and running for the last rounds.
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