Ironside

Haha you gotta be fucking kidding me, these guys are supposed to be experts?

Now I'm worried..

IMO no... HOF is for the best of the best, and he wasn't it.

Sure it's a gamble but why wait for the jab. I really think the issue is quickness. The contenders just don't have it. It's surely better then getting punched silly by the jab. Make Wlad trade early, and you got a shot. It's much better than being potshotted for 6 rounds then getting ko'ed.Well, that is the style to beat Wlad, but he is mid 200 lbs, so to be quick you can't really have much weight close to that, so the weight difference would be big if you want to have a speed advantage on Wlad, and I'm not saying for them to wait for the jab, if they were to go inside like you say, they have a big chance of getting hit, and Wlad arguably hits harder than anyone in the division right now.

Anyone else think Hartley is knocking this kid out? Have you seen Hartley's videos? I don't see this going past 1 round. Charlie will KO him, IF it goes the second round you never know.

IMO Valuev has by far the best chance out of everyone in the division.

doesnt change the fact of it being a ridiculous stoppage.. besides.. Joe apparantly hurt his hand bad in that barrage of slaps.. could of changed the fight..I don't agree with the stoppage, but the way Joe was going, you think he would have stopped throwing? I think there was some time left in that round, a few more seconds IMO and Manfredo would eventually eat flush shots. He couldn't have escaped from that round. The ref should have stopped it later, but the end was inevitable.

Wtf, I don't even see black ppl using the words honkey, or cracker... The n-word is not a good word. I wish black ppl wouldn't call each other n-$$ers because its disrespectful to themselves even though some of them say they use that word because they try to take the power away from it... Which makes no sense to me.Man who gives a fuck... Why do people care so much about this shit.

It's all about Brian Strege.Na what about that old fat guy that called Charlie out and he hit the Heavybag, and gave it a kick in the end?:rofl:

Corrie Sanders lit him up like a Christmas tree. It's amazing to me nobody has taken a page out of that book and brought it to him from jump street to make him fight. These guys just aren't very talented. You'd think one of them would just go after him winging hard shots. It's weird he hasn't even been tested in ages.Because if they do, they have a much bigger chance of getting caught by a jab, right hand then KOing Wlad. It's a gamble, it's not really a strategy.

I picked retire on top, because right now I can't see anyone having a good chance of beating him.

I couldn't choose any fighter to beat a LW Mosley.

IMO Judah and it's not really close, at the time he was by far the most experienced fighter of that list.

Wlad didn't "stink up" anything and Im fucking sick of people ragging him for fighting a smart fight. If you think you can do better, then strap on the gloves, fight your way to number one (which you can do because you're obviously better than he is because you seem to know better than him) and then fight Sultan and beat him. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. I don't have a problem with the way Wlad fought Sultan, but that was a pathetic argument...

hartley shouldnt even be fighting zelnoff...he should be in there with someone as rough as him... BUT if charlie avoids all our advice and listens to his trainer (who apparently isnt telling him to fix his errors) he will get dominated somewhere down the line. but im sure he will look like a champ against someone like hartley...(no offense to hartley...he's just not on charlies level from what i see)...Agreed, from that video, Charlie got very tired in 3 minutes, IDK if he will learn how to conserve his energy in real fights, and will throw those right hands and tire himself out in the first couple of rounds. A decent boxer would take advantage of this, but Hartley will just be eating those right hands.

Yea I remember reading your prediction, I thought you were drunk.

Lee has a good chin, but the thing is, everytime he got hit, he just froze up, didn't really know what to do.

Although IMO if they were to fight, Mayweather would beat Cotto, the article does have a point. PBF hasn't done enough at WW to be considered the champ at it. They didn't really give him credit for DLH win because it wasn't in WW, but IMO he should get a lot more credit for that fight. He was well above his weight class and fought a much bigger oppponent.

Because it is subjective and doesn't at all substantiate superiority. They did it with a weapon they didn't even invent (gun..invented by Arabs), along with the the substance that provides it energy (gun powder-invented by Chinese).. Doesn't tell us much when the same group only established civilized life subsequent to the dark ages and after Muslims brought them Greek literature. The irony also about Watson is this: DNA pioneer James Watson is blacker than he thought http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3022190.eceAnd? So what if they used things that weren't invented by them. They adapted, that's what you have to, do to become the most dominant force in the world.

LOL, he got fired and was dismissed as a quack with no evidence. Read the whole thing smart guy and read the follow ups. He provided nothing at all in refutation to what I posted. Post some DATA...Why aren't you replying to what Welter is saying? FACT: Europe EASILY conquered all of Africa.

He was thought of as the next big thing. Really good fighter, only has 16 matches. Hopefully this loss won't affect him too much and he'll only learn from it. He has some real potential, just needs to work on inside game.

Damn, Lee was hurt, but that was BS stoppage IMO.

LOL Boxer AKA Baller!

You also owe blacks more than you thing in modern times.. LIFE WITHOUT BLACK PEOPLEAnd guess what buddy? NONE of those blacks would invent those things if they weren't transported by the Europeans to America. They would still be in Africa hunting and gathering.

With the challenge that lie ahead of Cotto (winner of cintron/margarito), how "huge" will this be if Cotto were for some reason reason to lose? If this indeed what Floyd is what is doing, its a very risky gamble. Unless maybe that's what Floyd wants.Well, if Cotto loses to Marg or Cintron, then he it shows he wouldn't really deserve a fight with PBF. (Although I think Cotto has done enough to earn a fight with PBF right now)

Wow this fight is actually happening? If it's boxing Roy should school him.

Would have never thought Lee would lose to someone like Vera.

so the next big thing is now a guy who has 16 wins and no losses? LOL wow, go ahead and crown anybody then. he must be in a shitty division to get hype with not even 20 fights under his belt.Lol, he lost his 16th match, which was yesterday, but you should check out some videos on him on youtube. He's a middleweight BTW.

Exactly. If Hopkins is so old, why does Ring Magazine rate him on the p4p list above Calzaghe, Pavlik, Haye, etc? BoxRec has Hopkins as #1 p4p! Those lists are supposed to be based on the current p4p.I always say this over and over and all the posters that say he's too old never give a reply.

I really don't know, the fight in april will tell us who would win prime for prime.