After Joe Calzaghe beats Hopkins, what will the haters excuses be?

pretty much right

If we are going to grow up a little then this thread should never have been made. The real story here is B-hop is not game enough for Cal to get any serious credit for the victory. I mean....b-hop is not totally over... so Cal will get some credit if he gets the job done...leaning towards when he gets it done.... But anyway B-hop can still beat alot of fighters.. so its not totally useless for Cal to fight him... I mean b-hop is smart..you dont think he's coming with a plan? Though I want B-hop to win i still feel no plan can help for the volume and power... I mean he almost put kessler down with a body shot..remember that on the ropes... and took thunder uppercuts from kesller.

Allucard, grow up a little. If you actually watch the fighters and forget the nationality, it would be incredibly OBVIOUS that Kelly Pavlik is nowhere near the same league as Kessler. If we are going to grow up a little then this thread should never have been made. The real story here is B-hop is not game enough for Cal to get any serious credit for the victory.

yes, they act as they are trying to convince the rest of us hopkins is a very good fighter at 43 so they can say look at what joe did, what an acomplishment. joe is nº1 etc etc. The truth is Joe is just what the name suggests, an average Joe with no wins over anyone half decent, even Lacy and Kessler are Jokes in America (Kessler is ducking Pantera who lost to Pavlik!). What can you do? *Sigh* I don't wanna sound like i'm shitting on calzaghe.. i don't know what to say about his resume. I do know for sure though that B-hop is an old man and fights like one. If he pulls off the upset, then wow. Maybe Cal does suck.. but the reality is B-hops goin down, and while it may be closer than people think. B-hop is no longer as game as he once was.

yes, they act as they are trying to convince the rest of us hopkins is a very good fighter at 43 so they can say look at what joe did, what an acomplishment. joe is nº1 etc etc. The truth is Joe is just what the name suggests, an average Joe with no wins over anyone half decent, even Lacy and Kessler are Jokes in America (Kessler is ducking Pantera who lost to Pavlik!). What can you do? *Sigh* hay man.. i think kessler could do some damage over here... Even though it seems like he only throws the 1-2(though he doesn't)... he's very good at it and has done well so far. And I'm not sure he would be ducking Miranda... Atleast not yet.. Let it play out more.. I know your talking about Edison calling all those names out.. but ya gotta let it sit.. people think about things. good post bro! Thanks i hope the fight is good either way.

Bernard is too old.. he threw about 10 punches a round when he lost to jermaine taylor.. and that was 2 years ago. If you want to pretend he is no longer his former self.. that's fine, but plse don't bitch about people who acknowledge reality. yes, they act as they are trying to convince the rest of us hopkins is a very good fighter at 43 so they can say look at what joe did, what an acomplishment. joe is nº1 etc etc. The truth is Joe is just what the name suggests, an average Joe with no wins over anyone half decent, even Lacy and Kessler are Jokes in America (Kessler is ducking Pantera who lost to Pavlik!). What can you do? *Sigh*

Well I Want hopkins to win... But if he loses .. then he just loses... He's the one fighting at this age.. So its not really an excuse to be made... No one is making him box Calzhage the younger.. more active champion....Hopkins still looks good and can beat alot of names out there...So why not fight till someone shows you its time? No shame in continuing.. even though i really want him to win i think maybe he bit a lil more than eh could chew on this one.. to be totally honest. I want him to win.. But if he loses.. then thats just it.. and retire I would say. good post bro!

Oscar told him to lose for the sake of the company...

im just hoping the ref doesnt step in and stop the fight....it would be pandemonium in here, the servers might explode.

No, but the ppl picking hopkins to win shouldn't have any excuses if calzaghe beats hopkins. If they feel that hopkins will lose because of his age, then they should say now instead of saying hopkins will win the fight. They shouldn't have to wait after the fight is over to make excuses on why the guy they picked to win lost. Your absolutely right about that. You can't say he's too old after the fact. I think it's stupid to even be shit talking that Hopkins will win at the age he's at. I'm a big Hopkins fan, but I know his time has come and gone. He may still be a decent fighter, and I hope he wins, but lets be realistic here. Calz is not only younger, but he's a pretty damn good fighter. Calz wins this fight easily on points, maybe even KO depending how old Hopkins looks. In their primes, I would bet on Hopkins.

yes he's way past it.. that's goes directly with saying he's too old.. he's also not very active, his workrate is in decline.. this is all true. This is why Calzaghe beating him doesn't mean much. It's a good introduction for him to the states.

"hopkins is too old" or "hopkins is way past it" 100% How about hopkins just wasn't active enough.. hopkinbs style is not good against calzghe.. I want hopkins to win.. but thats what I think. Hopkins like to counter and not get hit.. but cal-man throws alot... and is sorta accurate.. and has a good chin as we've seen in the Kessler fight.. I really want hopkins to win.. but I really dont see his style beating Cal-man.. Though I'll be VERY happy if he does.. i just don't see it 100%... more like 30 % chance of him winning.

Bernard being old really isnt an excuse... its a pretty valid reason. What the man said.

Well I Want hopkins to win... But if he loses .. then he just loses... He's the one fighting at this age.. So its not really an excuse to be made... No one is making him box Calzhage the younger.. more active champion....Hopkins still looks good and can beat alot of names out there...So why not fight till someone shows you its time? No shame in continuing.. even though i really want him to win i think maybe he bit a lil more than eh could chew on this one.. to be totally honest. I want him to win.. But if he loses.. then thats just it.. and retire I would say.

Bernard is too old.. he threw about 10 punches a round when he lost to jermaine taylor.. and that was 2 years ago. If you want to pretend he is no longer his former self.. that's fine, but plse don't bitch about people who acknowledge reality.

Just KO him Joe, Nice and easy. Then move onto Pavlick or Jones Jr

Well I cant speak for the other people... but I think joe put himself in a predicament.... if bernard beats you... a 43 yr old beat you... if joe beats bernard... he beat a 43 yr old boxer... and those arent excuses those are actual facts... I for one kinda hope joe wins... cuz i want him to fight roy. lol another old man fight.....watch theyll put it on ppv too lol

calzaghe is not a white boy after all

I must ask when are you to old ??? Hagler was he to old against Leonard ??? Hopkins at 43 is much slower the he was 4-5 years ago, and not close to what he was when he fought Johnson for exampel. But just because he still fight very good and wins doesnt means that he is in his prime. Joe will probably win this fight, even if my heart say Hopkins. Does that mean that i "cover" up in case Hopkins loses or wins the fight ?? No !! Hopkins is not totaly shot or so, but he is not what he was and thats just a fact. However in my opinion in his prime i think he would beat Joe but not now.

whats funny or ironic about both of their styles is that Calzaghe has the style to make almost anyone look old... and Hopkins has the style to make any1 look real bad... so I don't think there should be any excuses for both because they have complicated styles...and to me those 2 styles will create an ugly collision in the ring, but should be real interesting.... they both may not be in primes but only thing that would change is it'll be a slower tempo now than before obviously...thats all.. with that said on April 19 I expect The Executioner to somehow pull it off....because if Calzaghe wins, he wins....but if Bernard beats Joe, its more of him pulling it off.....u never know what to expect vs. hopkins, with Joe its all about how one can handle his activity output..