Obviously Sugar Shane Mosley is the #1 Stunna on Cotto's resume.
He has fought quite a few really good fighters in addition to Mosley, and a lot of them have a good argument for being #2 on the list.
What do you think?
Azza, why did you vote for Chop Chop?
Is it because of how badly he was hurt against an underrated fighter, and still came back to win in an impressive fashion?
I think Corley is a hell of a lot better than anyone gives him credit for.
Too bad it's not a public poll. I am a fan of Floyd but I picked Quintana.
It is a public poll. If you click on one of the numbers of votes, it will go to a new screen with everyone who voted listed underneath each option.
By the way, Floyd has officially been down once against Carlos Hernandez, when he fucked his hand up badly landing a left hook on the top of his head.
His glove did scrape against Judah, and it should have been called a knockdown. Potentially the least hurt anyone has ever been when knocked down though... not a huge punch landed by Judah for that uncalled knockdown. Floyd was jumping in Ricky Hatton style and got caught with a very light punch that knocked him off balance.
Cotto was hurt bad against Torres, but Torres did push his ass down.
If you all want to talk about a comparative advantage for Floyd against Cotto, you could talk about how many rounds have been scored 10-8 without a knockdown for Floyd, which is 0, and how many for Cotto... Ricardo Torres got a 10-8 round from Harold Lederman in the 5th round against Cotto because he beat his ass all up and down the ring.
How much of what is typed above would matter if they fought? Probably none of it. Cotto isn't as fast as Zab, and Floyd doesn't punch as hard as Torres, so who cares?
Too bad it's not a public poll. I am a fan of Floyd but I picked Quintana.
What's funny is the amount of people who wrote Cotto off in that fight. They were saying that Zab is back, and he's too fast for Cotto. They also said the same thing about Shane. Those are the same guys that are discrediting him for those wins now.
Nah. Floyd went down in one of his earlier fight by his own doing. He hurt his hand, and took a knee due to the pain.
Lol. I dunno, but I laughed at that.
It would be easy to pick Judah, but I'm going with Ricardo Torres. With Zab, you know what you're getting, a POTENTIALLY dangerous fighter who didn't do much but land a couple of well timed uppercuts that couldn't knock Cotto off his feet. Zab is a joke now and a win over him these days doesn't even show up on the significant win stat before big fighters square off. Now looking what Torres has done since then, he is a defending 140 lb. champ and one of the top 4 jr. welters in the world. Looks a lot more impressive now, rather than somebody who was undisputed for a couple of months. Well you know what, so was Buster Douglas.
Wow! I haven't seen that fight since it happened and I totally forgot about that! That definitely was a push down and shouldn't have been ruled a knock down. It's obvious that Cotto was hurt way more than Mayweather was but technically, Cotto should have none and Mayweather should have 1..
The Mayweather knock down is comparable to when Hopkins landed that shot on Tarver and his glove hit the canvas which was ruled a kd.
Also, Mayorga/Tito in the 2nd or 3rd round.
Yeahh, I was asking that other guy because I knew he probably didn't know.
I also remember Lampley pointing out that Mayweather's been down in one of his earlier fights. Haven't seen it myself, but I heard it was a flash knockdown.
Nah. Floyd went down in one of his earlier fight by his own doing. He hurt his hand, and took a knee due to the pain.
I know Cotto has been down at least once (against Torres) and Floyd has never had a knockdown ruled against him but technically, in the Judah fight Zab landed a punch that got Mayweather off balance and Floyds glove touched the canvas which should technically be considered a KD.
So 1 and 1 or 1 and 0 I guess depending on how you want to look at it.
Yeahh, I was asking that other guy because I knew he probably didn't know.
I also remember Lampley pointing out that Mayweather's been down in one of his earlier fights. Haven't seen it myself, but I heard it was a flash knockdown.
As for the topic, I'm gonna have to say Judah even though I do think Quintana is better. You'd have to compare how their styles match up both against Cotto. Quintana got knocked out early because he is much taller than Cotto. The disadvantage here for Quintana is that it leaves his rib cage exposed and you already know that doesn't work well for you if you're gonna be fighting Cotto. Also, Cotto wasn't afraid of Quintana's power so he got to do whatever he wanted with Quintana.
As for the Judah fight, they were pretty evenly matched in the height category so when Cotto tried to hit Judah to the body, it caused his punches to land square in the balls. It's probably why it took longer to knock Judah out by not going to the body as much as his past fights. Judah is also faster than Quintana, and you know Cotto hasn't been great with avoiding fast punches.
So basically what I'm sayin' is, Quintana's height advantage was actually a disadvantage for him which made it a easier fight for Cotto.
I know Cotto has been down at least once (against Torres) and Floyd has never had a knockdown ruled against him but technically, in the Judah fight Zab landed a punch that got Mayweather off balance and Floyds glove touched the canvas which should technically be considered a KD.
So 1 and 1 or 1 and 0 I guess depending on how you want to look at it.
If u go to post #37, u will see the youtube vid of Cotto/Torres. Cotto was pulled down by Torres, whereas Floyd touched the canvas due to a Judah punch. Looks like in both fights, the wrong calls were made.
who cares if Cotto KOed someone that went the distance with Floyd, That doesnt mean nothing, if it does then did u see Cottos face after Judah? did u see Floyds face after Judah? Did u see how bad Cotto was hurt against Corley? How many times has Cotto been on the canvas? how many times has Floyd? this comparing them by who they fought doesn't mean nothing.
Yeahh, how many times have both of them hit the canvas, do you know?
sorta how Cotto knocked Corley down twice by hitting in the back of head a pulling down. And if u wanna get technical Floyd was going in for a punch yes his glove touched the canvas but he was far from hurt. Cotto was obviously hurt in the fight he went down in.
To the rescue and defense of Floyd comes Bad intentions!
Being hurt, and touching the canvas are two totally different things. Many fighters get hurt. Its a fight! When Cotto was pulled down, he disputed it with the ref and gestured that he was pulled down. Corley didnt say nothing, then took a knee 2x following that first knockdown.
Floyd on the other hand was hit with a punch that resulted in his glove touching the canvas in similar fashion to when Tarver's glove touched the canvas from a Bhop punch. You're right, he wasnt hurt, but he did touch the canvas.
I wouldnt even make a big deal about this, but it was you who wanted to compare the amount of times Cotto was down vs the amount of times Floyd was down. Im just stating the facts!
Torres. He could only do it in spots but he beat the shit outta Cotto in a few scattered bursts in that fight and almost finished him. Not an impresive win name wise but in terms of what he had to go through to win it was a big one for Cotto.
U might wanna take a second look at Cotto's so-called knock down against Torres. Yes he hurt Cotto in that fight, but Torres pulled Cotto down by the back of his head/neck. Its not as if he went down from a punch. Floyd on the other hand, touched the canvas from a Judah punch.
Fast Forward to 3:09. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk6gV6aGXPQ
sorta how Cotto knocked Corley down twice by hitting in the back of head a pulling down. And if u wanna get technical Floyd was going in for a punch yes his glove touched the canvas but he was far from hurt. Cotto was obviously hurt in the fight he went down in.
I think Torres is a hell of a win because he had to dig deep and show the world what a champion does in the face of adversity and near defeat. Cotto showed true class and resilience not to mention his heart and will to win. These are the things true champions are made of and that is why I voted Torres as his second best win thus far. Of course Judah and Quintana also go into that mix but mentioning all these fights goes to show that Cotto is fighting top opposition and has beaten very good pugilist in his ever growing career.