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http://www.secondsout.com/USA/news.cfm?ccs=229&cs=22588 http://www.secondsout.com/AcuCustom/Sitename/DAM/007/Collins_Billy_MSG_Cornered1_lx.jpg The film "Cornered" documenting a boxer’s despairing journey as a result of his apparent involvement in one of sports’ darkest hours, has been selected from thousands of applicants to be showcased at this year’s 29th Annual IFP Marketplace – scheduled for September 16th through 21st in New York City. For the first time ever, "Cornered" reveals the real story behind the infamous Resto-Collins scandal – a boxing match turned 30-minute criminal assault. The film uncovers new information about the fight, picks up with the reeling lives of those still affected 24 years later, and ultimately produces an unexpected twist. Cornered chronicles the life of boxer Luis Resto, who in 1983, had seemingly fulfilled a fighter’s ultimate dream by upsetting the previously undefeated Billy Collins Jr. in front of a capacity crowd at Madison Square Garden. Resto’s post-fight victory celebration proved fleeting however amongst allegations that padding had previously been removed from his gloves – vilifying his reputation and sending the brutally-beaten Collins into a tragic downward spiral. The film’s director, Eric Drath, first met the Puerto Rican-born Resto seven years ago in a rundown gym in the Bronx. Working as a boxing agent at the time, Drath perceived Resto as taciturn and humble. “The glaring contradiction I saw between Resto’s quiet, restrained character and the premeditated violence of his convicted crime lay on my mind. For years, I have researched his court case and developed a relationship with him and his family. I hope to uncover the disparity between what really happened and the account presented to the jury that found him guilty. This documentary is a personal account of my pursuit to find justice; to delve into, and understand the issues that haunt this unassuming man,” stated Drath. Cornered is produced and directed by Eric Drath, edited by EMMY Award winner, Aaron Lubarsky (HBO’s Journey’s with George). Also involved in the making of this film; Jenna Rosher (Academy Award nominated Jesus Camps). To see a 90-second trailer of the film, go to: www.youtube.com/ericdrath

What would be the film/TV show titles for different fighters? How to Murder Your Wife: Carlos Monzon Juice: James Toney Married With (many illegitimate) Children: Evander Holyfield My Baby's Daddy: Evander Holyfield My Two Dads: Felix Trinidad, co-starring Bernard Hopkins and Winky Wright I-Robot: Vitali Klitschko

http://thering-online.com/ringpages/ringupdate.html JOSE LUIS CASTILLO’S SECRET WEAPON By William Dettloff Jose Luis Castillo has a secret weapon going into his world junior welterweight title fight Saturday night with Ricky Hatton. It’s not a fancy move he learned from Floyd Mayweather or a secret punch Julio Cesar Chavez taught him in all those sparring sessions years ago. It is not specially designed sunglasses built to shield his corneas from Hatton’s shockingly pale skin. Castillo’s known about this weapon for as long as he’s been a fighter. Everyone else knows about it too. In fact, the fighters get reminded about it before every fight in one of the sillier of the fight game’s many silly rituals. Sometimes we get to watch while they’re reminded. It’s thrilling. What’s this secret weapon? The rulebook. You wouldn’t know it from all the neck-high groin protectors you see out there, but there is a rulebook and it states, fairly clearly, that excessive clinching and holding is a no-no. It’s not allowed. You can’t do it. If you do you get points deducted, or, even better, disqualified. That’s a good thing and that’s the way it’s supposed to be. Yet, we see excessive holding all the time. We see it in four-round fights between novices and in world title fights between pound-for-pound guys. We see it every time Hatton goes against an upper-tier guy who can hurt him. It is his strategy, and it’s illegal (not to mention boring). Hatton’s fights against Kostya Tszyu, Luis Collazo, and even Juan Urango, for cripes sake, turned into sordid clutchfests as soon as Hatton found out those guys could hurt him. And because he’s young and strong and good at getting his head under a guy’s chin and running him into the ropes while he’s wrapped up, he did well. The referees those nights—Dave Parris, John Zablocki, and Tony Weeks, respectively—looked the other way. They shouldn’t have. Hatton can fight. He had the exuberance and hubris of youth propelling him. He might have won those fights anyway and he might beat Castillo just because he’s younger, faster, and stronger. Fewer advantages than that have won fights before. But if I’m Castillo, I solicit the powerful machine that is Top Rank, his promoter, to lobby hard and long for a strict and true adherence to the rules as they pertain to holding and clinching. And he should hope that Jay Nady gets the call. Nady wouldn’t allow John Ruiz to clinch incessantly against Roy Jones and he tried to stop Oleg Maskaev from doing it in his second fight with Hasim Rahman, but was overruled, from all evidence, by Larry Merchant, of all people. Castillo is a better fighter than Hatton is, technically. But he may have to rely on the rulebook to win this one. Some miscellaneous observations from last week: If referees were as strict about enforcing rules around holding as they are the really silly ones, like those that prohibit talking in the ring and that require fighters touch gloves after the instructions, we’d all be a lot better off. If James Toney and Danny Batchelder are any indication, steroids make you fat and clumsy, at least the ones that fighters take. The ballplayers must be getting all the good stuff. A blood alcohol level three times above the legal limit, speeding on a crotch rocket with six kids counting on him. Tell me again why I should feel badly for Diego Corrales. So both Larry Merchant and Tony Soprano survived … sort of. I guess. Right? If while watching fights on ESPN2 you suddenly lose audio between rounds, don’t panic—it’s not David Chase preparing to blacken your screen. Boxing coordinating producer Matt Sandulli tells me the fights are on a five-second delay to “protect viewers from offensive language.” If a cornerman says something “inappropriate,” a button is hit that kills audio for as long as it’s necessary. Thank goodness Norm Stone isn’t around; we’d never hear a word between rounds. Anyway, don’t you feel better knowing you’re protected? You could have been scarred for life by all that salty cornerman talk. Really, I don’t blame ESPN. Boxing was the only prime time programming on which you’d occasionally hear cursing on basic cable. But this is the environment we’re in: We’re scared of dirty words, of all things. Speaking of words, regardless of what happens between now and the time he retires, words do not exist in the English language that would adequately capture the complete absurdity of calling Hasim Rahman a three-time world heavyweight champion. That Rahman has found yet another new trainer and new “dedication” and then showed up for his waltz with Taurus Sykes at 261 pounds tells you all you need to know. So Michael Grant is fighting again. Andrew Golota too. Anyone interested in a rematch? Nah, me neither. Bill Dettloff can be contacted at dettloff@ptd.net.

Gatti's most exciting fight and the 2nd best fight of the 90s.

Gatti's most exciting fight and the 2nd best fight of the 90s.

L TKO 10 Chris Byrd L TKO 6 Lennox Lewis Oh wait, I forgot, he was winning the fights before he lost so they don't count. :D :haha: He was also beating Hasim Rahman 4 times before he pulled out of every fight with a new injury.

http://www.boxing-monthly.co.uk/content/0003/two.htm The most memorable night of my boxing life was a giant birthday party. On 16 June 1983, Madison Square Garden was sold out for Roberto Duran’s challenge to junior middleweight champion Davey Moore. It wasn’t the greatest fight, mind you, but what a night! Just not for all the right reasons. The rafters of the Big Building rattled when Muhammad Ali made his way to ringside before the main event; the deafening chant of “Ah-Lee!” provided the ultimate adrenaline rush. As for Duran, such was the magnetism of the man that Moore, an ever-smiling kid from the Bronx, was booed in his own hometown. After Duran, reborn at 32, masterfully managed an upset KO win, he climbed the ring ropes and shed tears as the crowd sang “Happy Birthday”. He wasn’t the only one crying. Luis Resto doesn’t remember that night too well. After beating up the previously undefeated Billy Collins on the undercard, Resto celebrated by getting drunk at Victor’s Café, a Cuban joint in Midtown Manhattan. “Beer, rum, wine, everything,” Resto recalled. “I was so happy. I drank so much, I forgot to eat.” Resto went to sleep dreaming about a shot at welterweight king Donald Curry. When he woke up, a hangover was the least of his problems. Sixteen years later, Resto, 44, wearily waited for the inevitable line of questioning like a trialhorse waiting for a rising contender’s money punch. I hadn’t seen Resto since the Collins fight. In the tiny office at the Morris Park Boxing Gym in the Bronx, I told him I had watched most of his early fights, either live at the Felt Forum or on ESPN. We enjoyed shooting the bull about the good old days, but it was just prelim chatter. This interview wasn’t going to be that easy for either one of us. That’s because we both knew we had to talk about the gloves.

This never gets old. http://youtube.com/watch?v=2FFVhsFyFzQ

Anyone agree? Tyson in the game was like the Tyson in his later career. Deadly in the first 1/6th of the fight and easier afterwards.

Cigar-sucking fedora head has nothing on the late, great Jack Newfield. Agree or disagree?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqwjFV3zV-k Vincent Pettway-Simon Brown http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD50v4kqPPc Rocky Juarez-Guty Espadas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o4glB_jdhk Roy Jones-Art Serwano http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMA6jkwjxPE James Toney-Prince Charles Williams http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-k1TllSSE4 James Toney-Jason Robinson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng1Nl-WLOBM Mike Tyson-Lorenzo Boyd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPW0cQiJ2Ks

http://thering-online.com/ringpages/ringupdate.html ASKING TOO MUCH OF MAYWEATHER-DE LA HOYA By William Dettloff Anyone with a vested interest in the health of the fight business will be holding his breath on Saturday night. So much of the talk going into the Floyd Mayweather-Oscar De La Hoya fight has been about how desperate boxing is for a big night. This is the fight, ostensibly because it will be seen by more “casual” fans than any in recent years, that could give the game a badly needed boost—if it goes well. Conversely, the thinking goes, a bad night—a rotten decision, a boring chess match, an inconclusive ending—will send the last remnants of the fight-viewing public scrambling over to mixed martial arts, the latest participant in the apparently endless parade of pro boxing’s supposed undertakers. There is so much pressure on the event to be perfect that those who yearn for boxing to stave off death for another few years will hardly be able to enjoy the fight for what it is: a hell of a nice matchup. There’s too much at stake. I remember the last time I felt like that. A huge fight was coming up, a heavyweight championship rematch that was sure to shatter pay-per-view records and send casual fans by the millions into gyms and book stores everywhere. A whole generation would be turned on to the fight game if only everything went right. Though I had a mild personal rooting interest, I told anyone who asked that I didn’t care who won so long as it was a good fight and the sport represented itself well. That was the truth; it was that important, I thought. It was that big. Boxing needed the boost, and if it went right, the whole world would see what I saw in the fight game, and then everything would be all right. Then the fight came and the whole world watched Mike Tyson chew off a fleshy bit of Evander Holyfield’s ear and spit it on to the canvas. Put aside for the moment the tantalizing possibility that Tyson’s meltdown actually helped the sport because it galvanized the notion that anything can happen in a prizefight. Go with the more conventional (and probably inaccurate) assumption that it hurt because the brutality and mayhem turned off casual viewers and sent them back to the safe, comfortable banality of pro football and major league baseball. The day after, boxing was still with us and had no fewer fans than it had the day before. And even if it did, so what. It had been true to itself. It had been what it always has been. If Mayweather-De La Hoya turns out to be the greatest fight in history, the sport will be fundamentally no different on Monday morning, May 7. There will still be too many weight classes and governing bodies, too many titlists and sharks and broken bodies and bruised brains: the same sport. If it’s a bomb and all those casual fans feel cheated, it still will have more heroes and characters and great stories and courageous acts and lives changed than all of the so-called mainstream sports combined: the same sport it was on May 4. It doesn’t matter if Mayweather-De La Hoya breeds new fans or turns away the ones it has. We either want this sport for what it is or we don’t, and it will be true to itself regardless. So enjoy Mayweather-De La Hoya for what it is: a hell of a big and interesting prizefight. No more, no less. Some miscellaneous observations from last week Acelino Freitas may be the only fighter I’ve seen who cries like a baby when he wins and smiles broadly when he loses. He looked so happy after quitting against Juan Diaz, I thought he’d won the lottery. Either way, when you’re satisfied enough at having put on a decent show, your days as a compelling fighter are over. The performance of HBO’s revamped Boxing After Dark team was very good, easily its best so far. Even Lennox Lewis sounded good. Bob Papa, one of the very few blow-by-blow guys around who keeps his ego in check and understands his role is not to provide analysis, has made an enormous difference. Good for him and good for HBO for hiring him. I know I’m supposed to hate Mayweather after watching HBO’s 24/7 episodes, but I find myself liking him more all the time. He’s real. And he’s all fighter. Vernon Paris is one hell of a good-looking prospect. Referee Joe Cooper’s command to Mike Anchondo and Darling Jimenez to “throw some thunder!” ranks as the dumbest yet of all the dumb referee slogans out there. What an abomination. Don’t give up your day job, Joe. Give up the night one instead. Please. Speaking of dumb referee slogans, I was reminded while watching an old tape that Joe Cortez is on at least his second incarnation with his “I’m fair but I’m firm” silliness. Do you remember what he used to use? The even more objectionable, “Remember, I’m the boss man in here.” So at least he’s making progress. By the way, how long was Anchondo supposed to lie face-first on the canvas before a ringside doctor came over to see if he still had a pulse? After a while I started wondering if one of the eight or nine fans in the house would have to call 911 to get him some attention. What’s the over/under on how long it takes Jason Litzau to get starched again? My pick Saturday night: Mayweather by decision, maybe even late stoppage. He is at the top of his game. De La Hoya is not at the top of his, and it might not matter if he were. Bill Dettloff can be contacted at dettloff@ptd.net

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/insider/news/story?id=2849251 http://espn.go.com/i/insider/insiderMagIndex/mag_05072007_200x200.jpg 'God love me and I'm a hell of a fighter' By Tim Keown ESPN The Magazine From their sentry posts guarding the inner sanctum of Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s Las Vegas training camp, Big Stack and GT see all. Leaning against the wall, on either side of the gym's doorway, their heads tilted back and chins upraised, they are two vital accessories to fame, blankly surveying the comic opera before them. Big Stack and GT say little. Apparently there is a code among bodyguards -- the omertà of the oversized. Ask them a question, and they mumble a monosyllabic aside, discouraging conversation. Besides, there's enough noise here. The hyperbole flowing from their boss' mouth could make an empty room sound like a crowded aviary. And the coterie of hired company, 15 to 20 strong, has plenty to say too, always in support of Champ. Perhaps Big Stack and GT understand something fundamental about words: They are finite. The two men showed up here at Barry's Boxing Center, hard by the strip clubs and restaurant-supply shops on Highland, just before noon on this Tuesday in late March. They stationed themselves outside the gym and broke into a light jog 45 minutes later when Champ rolled up in his white Mercedes CL65 AMG. They assumed their spots on either side of the vehicle while three young men inside the gym's lobby walked outside to stand silently next to the glass front door. Everyone was in place. There was no one else around. Now, from their perch guarding the door, Big Stack and GT watch Mayweather pull two fist-size rolls of $100 bills out of his baggy sweats and toss them into one of the rings. They look on as Champ spars with a skinny young boxer named Pepito, dispensing four rounds of physical and verbal abuse, every jab to the head punctuated with a vicious "Shut up, b----!" The sparring finished, Big Stack and GT stand motionless as Mayweather does 100 sit-ups at the edge of the ring, the assembled entourage issuing satisfied grunts at all the right intervals. He follows with the heavy bag and the speed bag and then the jump rope, his style frantic enough to make you question gravity. It's just another day at the office, bearing witness to the epic workouts that lead Mayweather to proclaim that he has never once -- through 37 victories and exactly zero professional defeats -- been tired in the ring. When it's over, Big Stack and GT straighten up, stretch their oversize frames and silently walk to the Benz to dutifully flank the vehicle as Champ sits inside and talks on the phone with the engine running. Mayweather, the most cartoonishly self-absorbed boxer in the world, is on the cusp of his biggest moment: a May 5 überbout with Oscar De La Hoya. But wading through the menagerie of his entourage, while surveying the wads of cash on the canvas and the bruised feelings of poor Pepito, begs for an answer to a not-so-simple question: Just who the hell does Floyd Mayweather Jr. think he is? Pound for pound, the 30-year-old Mayweather is the best boxer in the world. And by jumping a weight class to fight De La Hoya in Las Vegas for the junior middleweight title, he's front and center in one of the few remaining bouts with the power to stir the masses. If Mayweather wins, as most expect, he will earn his fifth title in five different weight classes, thanks in large part to extrasensory defensive skills and boxing's quickest, sharpest fists. But Mayweather himself might be the only person who considers the "pound-for-pound" title an insult. He agrees with it, sure, but adds the following: "I'm the greatest fighter ever." And his Greek chorus, never far away, nods its assent. Self-inflation is a time-honored boxing tradition, nearly a requirement, but Mayweather has created a reality -- a group of men who serve as human mirrors -- to reinforce his beliefs. He calls himself "raw and uncut" and says he's one of the few athletes with the confidence and the popularity to truly "keep it real." This unpolished persona (he describes himself in machine-gun cadence as "the Living Legend, a.k.a. The Villain, a.k.a. Floyd 'Makin' Millions' Mayweather, a.k.a. Pretty Boy Floyd, a.k.a. Homeboy") arose from his frustration with being "programmed" to act in an image-friendly way by Bob Arum, his former promoter. Arum started working with Mayweather after he turned pro, following the 1996 Olympics. When the promoter saw the 19-year-old's smile and effervescent personality, he envisioned the next Sugar Ray Leonard. In fact, he enlisted Leonard to mentor the young Mayweather on how to sand the rough edges and create a champion the public could embrace. But it never took. Early in his career, Mayweather found himself in a private jet with two other Arum clients -- Leonard and De La Hoya. The would-be mentors understood that polishing an image makes a fighter a more bankable draw, both during and after his career. They saw Mayweather's promise and gave him suggestions on how to dress and how to handle the media. "You can be the next Sugar Ray Leonard," De La Hoya told him. "Keep winning and keep smiling." Recalling the conversation now, De La Hoya says, "I was talking, but I knew it was pointless. It was going in one ear and out the other." The message from Mayweather was clear: You do your thing, and I'll do mine. The etiquette lesson ended with De La Hoya and Leonard talking to each other while Mayweather just stared out the window. One man's "raw and uncut" is another man's ego-maniacal and unsavory. Mayweather's tempestuous personality has drawn detractors -- like bugs to a light -- who acknowledge the talent but question its owner. Perhaps that explains why many of the sport's cognoscenti, including HBO commentator and Mayweather nemesis Larry Merchant, predicted he'd get his comeuppance last November, courtesy of the rugged Carlos Baldomir.

To the best of my knowledge, the last boxer to make the cover was Mike Tyson before the Lennox Lewis fight. http://i.cnn.net/si/si_online/covers/images/2007/0507_large.jpg

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TAYLOR-SPINKS: NOT AS AWFUL AS YOU THINK By William Dettloff Lou DiBella apparently grew so tired of all the complaining about Jermain Taylor’s inability to back up Kassim Ouma, last December, that he reportedly went out and got Cory Spinks, who even has a hard time moving forward when he’s on one of those human conveyor belts at the airport. Spinks, THE RING’s top-rated junior middleweight and a former world welterweight champion, is as pure a stick-and-move boxer as you can imagine. The most likely scenario when the two meet, which will reportedly be in May, is that his movement and jab will befuddle Taylor for a few rounds, then Spinks will fade, as he did against Zab Judah and Roman Karmazin, and probably get stopped. This will be seen as rather a cause for celebration in the Taylor camp, as the world middleweight champion hasn’t stopped anyone in 48 rounds of boxing. Taylor engendered some amount of good will after beating Bernard Hopkins for the title, first by agreeing to fight Hopkins again and then by giving a shot to Winky Wright. It’s hard to recall another young champion who faced such stiff competition right out of the box. Rightly or wrongly, he sacrificed a bit of that good will by facing Ouma, a very good junior middleweight, and more yet when, despite his greater strength and punch, he allowed Ouma to back him up all night. The selection of Spinks (which came only after negotiations for bouts against Wright and Sergio Mora fell through) has produced a collective groan in the boxing industry. I’m not ready to castigate Taylor and DiBella for choosing Spinks. There’s a long history of middleweight champions facing smaller fighters moving up. At least four of Marvelous Marvin Hagler’s most notable opponents—Ray Leonard, Thomas Hearns, Roberto Duran, and John Mugabi—came from lighter weight classes. (Duran made his bones at lightweight, for cripes sake.) In fact, Hagler fought Hearns, Mugabi, and Leonard in consecutive fights. The great Carlos Monzon defended against Jose Napoles, didn’t he? Dick Tiger gave Emile Griffith a shot at the middleweight title four months after Griffith’s final welterweight title defense (and was sorry he did). No one’s suggesting that Cory Spinks is the equal of any of the guys I’ve just mentioned, so put down the mouse. I’m merely suggesting that there’s precedent for what Taylor is doing. And if he going to defend against a junior middleweight, at least he picked a good one in Spinks, who is RING’s top-rated 154-pounder. That’s not to say this sort of matchmaking isn’t going to chip away at the good will Taylor established in the early days of his reign. It absolutely is and there’s a way for him to restore that good will, assuming he beats Spinks: face the winner of the proposed Edison Miranda-Kelly Pavlik fight. And say it now—loud and clear. If he doesn’t, if the next opponent isn’t a top middleweight, he will undo all that early respect he got by taking on Hopkins and Wright. But if he does, all will be forgiven. Some miscellaneous observations from last week: Good for Jesse Feliciano for reminding us again that sometimes tough is better than good. Said Quali looked good blowing out Irving Garcia, didn’t he? What did I like best about Mikkel Kessler in his win over Librado Andrade? That in the last few rounds, when he knew he was way ahead, he tried to knock Andrade into the fourth row anyway. That stood in stark contrast to Jean-Marc Mormeck’s pitiable display over the last four rounds of his win over O’Neil Bell. Are there any fighters anymore who don’t have a belt? Just checking. I kept wondering what was holding Andrade up until I remembered he used to work at a Jack-in-the-Box. Nothing will harden a man’s resolve like the memories of working in a fast-food joint and the terrible contemplation that he might have to again one day. I was digging the prefight atmosphere in Copenhagen’s Parken Arena until the ring announcer intoned, “Let’s get this party started.” Yikes. Talk about a buzz kill. I’d advise Joe Calzaghe to steer clear of Kessler, but I imagine he and his people are way ahead of me. Speaking of Calzaghe, I expect he will stop Peter Manfredo late or win a decision in a fight that is a bit more competitive than most expect it to be. And for the record, it will be Calzaghe’s second defense of the world title he claimed when he beat Jeff Lacy, not the 135th or whatever defense of a worthless belt whose organization, need we remind you, once elevated a dead man in its rankings. Either the organization is worthy of contempt or it isn’t. You can’t have it both ways. If it’s true that Bob Papa replaced Fran Charles on Boxing After Dark because of the work Charles does for the NFL, then I can only say thank goodness for the NFL. This is the only solace I can offer those who have a hard time reconciling continued patronage of a sport in which Laurence Cole can referee Kessler-Andrade while serving a suspension in Texas: Being a fight fan is a lot like watching an episode of The L Word: You have to sit through a lot of annoying crap to get to the good stuff, but sooner or later the good stuff comes. And when it does, it’s usually worth it. Bill Dettloff can be contacted at dettloff@ptd.net. http://www.thering-online.com/ringpages/ringupdate.html

Here's a list of some horrible beatings for the sadists. Mayweather-Gatti Mayweather-Gerena De La Hoya-Gatti Hopkins-Joppy Hopkins-Johnson Duran-Moore Duran-Palomino Hagler-Hamsho I Hearns-Duran Trinidad-Mayorga Trinidad-Garcia Brown-Vaca Gatti-Gamache Foreman-Frazier I Ali-Williams Tszyu-Gonzalez Holmes-Cobb Qawi-L. Spinks Chavez-Rosario Chavez-Camacho Jones-Hall Jones-Telesco Jones-Brannon Jones-Woods Mosley-Ruiz Quartey-Bojorquez Pacquiao-Barrera Toney-Barkley Toney-Delgado Toney-Holyfield Toney-Booker Tyson-Biggs Lewis-Tyson V. Klitschko-Williams W. Klitschko-Mercer Bowe-Gonzalez Golota-Bowe II Rahman-Meehan

1990s: 10) Riddick Bowe W DQ 9 Andrew Golota 9) Riddick Bowe W 12 Evander Holyfield 8) Michael Moorer TKO 5 Bert Cooper 7) Arturo Gatti KO 6 Wilson Rodriguez 6) Robert Quiroga W 12 Kid Akeem Anifowoshe 5) Marco Antonio Barrera TKO 12 Kennedy McKinney 4) Nigel Benn KO 10 Gerald McCellan (I hate this fight and never watch it) 3) Julio Cesar Chavez TKO 12 Meldrick Taylor 2) Ivan Robinson W 10 Arturo Gatti (first fight) 1) Michael Carbajal KO7 Humberto Gonzalez Others outside the top 10: Kevin Kelley KO 8 Derrick Gainer, Naseem Hamed KO 4 Kevin Kelley, Arturo Gatti TKO 5 Gabe Ruelas, Frankie Randall W 12 Julio Cesar Chavez, Jorge Castro TKO 9 John David Jackson, Derrick Jefferson Ko 6 Mo Harris, Frank Liles KO 3 Tim Littles 2000- present: I'm still waiting on my copy of Sithchatchawal-Monshipour so it's not on the list, yet. 10) Oscar De La Hoya TKO 11 Fernando Vargas 9) Micky Ward W 10 Emanuel Burton/Augustus 8) Marco Antonio Barrera W 12 Erik Morales (3rd fight) 7) James Toney W 12 Vasilly Jirov 6) Sergei Liakhovich W 12 Lamon Brewster 5) Micky Ward W 10 Arturo Gatti 4) Felix Trinidad TKO 12 Fernando Vargas 3) Miguel Cotto TKO 7 Ricardo Torres 2) Erik Morales W 12 Marco Antonio Barrera 1) Diego Corrales TKO 10 Jose Luis Castillo Others outside the top 10: Fernando Vargas W 12 Ike Quartey, Manny Pacquiao TKO 10 Erik Morales, Manny Pacquiao D 12 Juan Manuel Marquez, Lennox Lewis TKO 6 Vitali Klitschko

http://www.boxingconfidential.com/articles.php?id=854 JH: Alright. Let’s just get right to it. What happened? AG: I am not going to make any excuses. Edison won the fight but I was not right for that fight. I was sick for the fight. I had a medical condition and have had other medical problems. JH: Medical problems? AG: Yes. And like I say I am willing to post my medical records online. If anybody says that Green is making excuses. JH: We can make that happen. If you really want to post your medical records online. I have - AG: ( cutting me off ) Not taking nothing away from him, you know because if he had felt the same way as I did. I would have done the same thing to him. He did what he was suppose to do. He won the fight. I signed the contract to fight him. When you win you win. When you lose you lose. JH: You lose. I got you. Okay so are going to take care of these medical problems. AG: ( cutting me off ) I have been to the doctor three times in the last two days. Like I said I haven’t felt completely completely strong. An 100% strong in about a year. Its finally caught up with me and now its finally time for me you know, say yeah man I finally have to get this taken care of. I can’t keep doing like this. Its hurting my training camps. They are okay but they are somewhat dismal because some days I am not feeling as strong as I should and some days I am. JH: So you are saying that your energy levels sometimes go up and sometimes go down at times. AG: You have to remember that the low normal for blood sugar is 70. That’s the low normal. Mines was 63. And that was after the fight! During the fight and before the fight it was lower than that. My iron levels was extremely low. And I am anemic. And I have all of this on record. JH: Okay. Like I said we can make this happen. If anyone wants to dispute what you are saying we can post it on boxing confiden - - AG: ( cutting me ) Not taking anything away from Edison Miranda. He did what he was suppose to do. He felt the best that night. And since he felt the best he was the better man that night. And he won the fight. But you know what I am saying, like I said I haven’t went anywhere. I am already back! I am already back. I am already ready to fight again. My ego is not tarnished. My confidence is not tarnished. Because I know for a fact that I am the better fighter. I know for a fact that I am the better boxer. I know for a fact that me a 100% he is not in the same league as me. Even the way I felt that night. Technically I showed that he was not in the same league as me. JH: Okay. What about this? You know you are going to have some people asking this. You did talk a lot going into the fight and you were very confident. Some people may even say you were boarding on arrogance. Sowhat are you going to do now? A lot of people are probably going to dismiss you for a while because - - AG: ( cutting me off ) Yeah, yeah they can. That’s part of the game. But things like that happen to various fighters. Bernard Hopkins. Sugar Ray Leonard lost to Robert Duran. I mean - people are what they are. Fans are fans. They can do what they do. They can say what they say. I don’t want to say I will be back because I am already back. JH: Okay. Your confidence is not shaken my man. So you are going to try and attempt to have a fight back in May? AG: Yeah. I think its in the works right now. Possibly May and than get myself back into the mix. That was something really out of my control. Just like I said it was out of my control. I didn’t feel my best. Edison Miranda felt great. And he took advantage of it and won the fight. JH: Okay when you get back into the ring. Are coming back at 162 or going back up to 168? AG: Nah. Nah. I think I will fight again at 162. I don’t want to automatically contribute that because I know it had to do with my medical problems. JH: I got you. The only reason I said 168 is in the earlier interview we had you said that you were having trouble getting fights and now after this performance you may get a lot of fights because people may start to think that you are not as good as you may think you are. And sometimes that does opens up opportunities for fighters because people think, well okay maybe he isn’t all that good and now I will fight him. I am just saying if opportunities are at 168 will take those. AG: Yes. Of course I would. If opportunities arose at 168 of course I would take it. But I still have business at middleweight. 168 will still be there. And if I have opportunities at that weight I would do that. But I have business to take care at middleweight. Like I said, between me and you on a scale of 1 to 10 that night I was probably a 3. And if I would have won the fight I would have said the same thing. I would have said probably a 3. JH: Okay. AG: And if anybody would have asked me that before the fight I would have said I am about a 3. JH: Okay. So, you definitely want to get back in the ring and get yourself right health-wise. AG: I have been working on that since I got back. The moment I got back that’s what I have been working on. And if any of the sports writers or anybody want to say, Oh Allan is making excuses. Like I said I will post everything I told you on boxing confidential. JH: Yeah. Okay. We can do that. AG: And that’s not making an excuse. But you asked me a question. You asked me. JH: Hmmm AG: You asked me what was wrong and that was the first thing you asked me. And I told you what was wrong. And so if anybody asked me what’s wrong?! Then I will tell them. If they asked me, your thoughts on the fight? I would just say I was not myself and Edison fought a good fight but if you ask me what’s wrong than I will tell what was wrong. JH: That was the basic thing I was asking. AG: Anybody who has seen me whether you love me or hate me. If you have ever seen me fight it was painfully apparent when I came out. It was painfully apparent! Wait a minute something is wrong. As slow as Miranda jab is why is Allan is not countering or doing anything. JH: Yeah. You weren’t throwing the right hand at all. AG: Wasn’t throwing the right hand at all. When Allan Green gets anybody hurt. Allan Green - people compared me to Gerald McClellan as far as finishing people. JH: Hmmm. AG: When I got him hurt. I couldn’t - JH: Were you trying to set traps for him by moving back so much. AG: Yeah. I was trying to get him to come in and catch him with something. But it was fool’s gold. I couldn’t counter with the speed and vision I that needed to because of the way I was feeling. I could see everything. Everything - I was thinking man this guy is slow. But I couldn’t react. I couldn’t pull the trigger. JH: Your fight in May. Will in be a big name? Or are you and John are going to take something small and build yourself back up? AG: No. No. No. I want a top guy. Like I told you my confidence is not shaken. I am not the type of guy (mock crying ) oh he lost a fight. Oh - I am going to fight a bum to try and get my confidence back. I don’t need that shit! I am not that type of fighter. I don’t need that shit. I trying to get in there with a guy who is a pretty good fighter. JH: Okay. Well thanks for clearing up things. AG: And anybody who wants to see any of these documents they can. And I would rather not do it but before I let anybody call me a liar I will do that. But doing that will take away from Miranda’s victory. But before I am called a liar I would do that. JH: I understand. A lot of people look at fighters who could up with a lot of excuses. Fighters say they are sick. They have the flu - AG: ( cutting me off ) I could have fought with the flu. I could of did it with the flu but with dehydration, dangerous low electrolytes, blood sugar, anemia and my colon. That’s a whole different story all together. If I had the flu I still would have won the fight. Like I said it wasn’t so much as him as it was me. I think I practically gave it away because there was nothing I could do. JH: Was it bothering you that you couldn’t pull the trigger? AG: Yes. And as I walked out of the ring all I thought about was I can’t wait until my next fight. I can’t wait to fight again. JH: When you fight again. Will you be trying to make a statement! Because you will have your doubters. AG: I haven’t felt a 100%. I haven’t felt strong in about a year - huh - year and a half maybe. But I haven’t felt a 100% in along time being that I have had these problems. After this you will see a totally different fighter. JH: Why did you fight for so long under those disadvantages? Because when you don’t give yourself your best chance you are allowing your opponent to have a greater advantage. Was it - AG: I didn’t think it was as serious until something came up with my mum and she found out she had the problem and that may me think maybe I need to go get checked out. JH: No disrespect towards you but do you believe that your self-confidence was your undoing? AG: Yeah. Yeah, yeah - you know how guys are. You know how we are - thinking I don’t need to get this shit out. I am cool. I will be alright. Taking nothing away from him. Even all of that. Most of it I found out afterward. I knew about the colon infection and I knew my electrolytes were low and I knew I was going to get dehydrated. But as far as the sugar and the anemia I wasn’t quite sure about. I wasn’t quite sure about. I found out about that later. So given the first three things I named I was like yeah hell I will be okay. I will go in there beat him like that. I am not sweating this.

1) Did they start on the scheduled time? 2) How long did they last?

"You should also watch your language on boxing-talk because kids be reading this shit you know."- Vivian Harris "I paid a worker at New York's zoo to re-open it just for me and Robin. When we got to the gorilla cage there was 1 big silverback gorilla there just bullying all the other gorillas. They were so powerful but their eyes were like an innocent infant. I offered the attendant $10,000 to open the cage and let smash that silverback's snotbox! He declined."- Mike Tyson "He was out cold, convulsing on the floor like an infantile retard"- Mike Tyson

i haven't seen this guy fight. anyone seen him fight? thoughts on his abilities?

http://www.thering-online.com/ringpages/readastory2.html HOW CAN OSCAR BEAT MAYWEATHER? Nine World-Class Trainers Offer Their Advice By Don Stradley Short of using a baseball bat on him in a dark alley, there doesn’t seem to be a way to beat Floyd Mayweather. It’s not as if he’s unpredictable—he does the same thing for each fight. He starts out in the counterpuncher’s stance, blocking and slipping shots. Like a good street bully, Mayweather senses when an opponent’s confidence has wilted. By the middle rounds, he’s hitting you, taunting you a bit. Eventually he’s in complete control. He doesn’t tire; he doesn’t make mistakes. His fragile hands and his tendency to be too defensive don’t take away from his being perhaps the best fighter in the game. Oscar De La Hoya, 38-4 (30), is meeting Mayweather, 37-0 (24), on May 5. They’ll be fighting at 154 pounds, a first for Mayweather. The Ring checked in with some of the game’s top trainers to see how they would prepare De La Hoya for what may be the biggest bout of his career. They all agreed that De La Hoya has a chance. They also agreed that Mayweather is a special fighter. “He’s a crafty kid,” said Emanuel Steward. “Floyd is a student of the game. He eats and sleeps boxing. When he watches boxing, he puts his nose right up to the TV set. His best performance hasn’t even happened yet. If Oscar isn’t right, Floyd could smoke him and blow him out in an electrifying performance.” “I think Mayweather is one of the top fighters in the world,” said Goody Petronelli, trainer of Marvelous Marvin Hagler. Oscar Suarez, concurs, but has some reservations. “Mayweather is the best, pound-for-pound,” said Suarez. “That kid has a gift from God. But he’s crossing the line. We are humans and we have limits. This is one line he shouldn’t be crossing, because of the size difference. Oscar is going to run through him.” Our trainers were split on whether size would make a difference in this fight. “The weight is an advantage for Oscar, because a good big man will beat a good little man,” said Petronelli. Steward, however, said, “I don’t think the weight advantage matters because Floyd is just as strong as Oscar. Oscar has never been a physical fighter. He doesn’t impose himself on an opponent. In fact, Mayweather may actually be stronger than Oscar.” So if size isn’t important, what is? “It’s about strategy,” said Joe Goossen. “When Oscar tries to press a good boxer, he’s only minimally successful. I’d say Oscar has to use his height and reach advantage. I’d have Oscar play a chess game with him and see who’s the best counterpuncher. If Oscar is in a boxer/counterpuncher mode that night, he’ll pick up on mistakes by Mayweather. That’s his only shot, to try to counter Mayweather taking the lead. Turn Mayweather into the pressure guy; let him make the first move so Oscar can counterpunch. Oscar’s got great defense, and real quick hands, and if he gets into the type of shape he was in for Mayorga, he’ll do well. But it’s about strategy.” A chess match with Mayweather? Sounds risky. “You have to know what Mayweather does well and find a way to negate those things,” said Teddy Atlas, Friday Night Fights analyst and former trainer of Michael Moorer. “Oscar has an advantage in experience and height. So you’d start with that. Mayweather has the advantage in youth and speed, so you’d want to be respectful and understanding of that. “One way to beat Mayweather’s speed is with controlled distance, controlled range. Don’t stay within the range where he can use his speed. Know where that range is and separate yourself when you want to negate his ability to get combinations off. When you are in range, look to time him. Timing can beat speed. Don’t get into a flat-out speed contest with him, but control the range with your height, and time him before he can get started. Control the outside part of the fight; keep him at the end of the jab, at the end of your punches. I would definitely use feints. Mayweather likes to anticipate punches and look for counters, so I’d try to feint him at the right time. Throw his rhythm off and get him to make preliminary movements that will keep him off-balance.” Steward agreed that Oscar should use brains rather than brawn. “I’d like to see him fight an intelligent fight. I’d like to see him fight the way he fought in 1994, ’95, when he was coming up and had a beautiful jab. I’d have him box and pull Mayweather out of his plan of laying back. I’d have him train with fast guys and box them. I’d have Oscar prepared to try to win a decision. Oscar can be a very good boxing machine.” Some trainers, however, have more mayhem in mind. “Oscar likes to box and move, but it depends who you box,” said Petronelli. “If a guy is a better boxer than me, I’m gonna be the banger, and I’m gonna put pressure on him. That’s what Oscar needs to do.” Willie Savannah, trainer of WBA lightweight titleholder Juan Diaz, said, “Oscar ain’t no dummy. He knows he’ll have to fight the hell out of him. He knows he’ll have to turn it into a street fight.” Slick fighters such as Mayweather sometimes have trouble with awkward, pressure fighters. His undefeated streak was almost snapped in 2002 when Jose Luis Castillo pushed Mayweather for 12 rugged rounds. Had the judges been more appreciative of Castillo’s work, Castillo would have won. Instead, Mayweather kept the zero in his loss column and defeated Castillo handily in their rematch. Still, Castillo’s first effort has been largely accepted as the way to beat Mayweather. “Castillo almost made him quit,” said John Ruiz’ former trainer, Norman Stone. “Floyd was looking for the door. Castillo cut the ring off and didn’t give room to breathe. I don’t know if Oscar is that type of fighter. But he’s not gonna beat him by boxing. “You’d have to bring in a lot of speedy guys for Oscar to spar. Floyd hops in and he hops out. Floyd can hit you 10 times and then ask you to make change for a quarter. Make sure Oscar puts a lot of pressure on him. It’s tough to get Oscar to fight that way. Oscar has lost some speed, but the extra weight will take some of Floyd’s speed too.” “I would use the strategy of pressure,” said Savannah. “I just can’t see Floyd going 12 hard rounds with Oscar. Oscar’s not like Zab Judah, falling all over the place and trying to look cute; he’s in control. Just get in there and put a lot of pressure on him. And when he gets him on the ropes, don’t just stand there and wait like Castillo did in their second fight. Castillo would cut the ring off on Mayweather, but he wouldn’t do anything when he got there. And you’ve got to understand, Oscar is gonna be 20 pounds heavier than Castillo was that night. I think Oscar can be a slugger when he needs to.” Bad idea, said Goossen. “If he tries to pressure Mayweather, he’ll walk into punches. I’d turn it into a chess match. If that doesn’t work, then you’ll have to go for broke and turn the pressure on later. Oscar is one of the great counterpunchers of all-time. It’s too late to turn him into Jose Louis Castillo.” “There’s a certain way for a good physical fighter to beat Mayweather, but I don’t know if Oscar can do it,” said Steward. “He has to land, then move away in a circle, and counter. They may try to have him fight like a pressure fighter, but that’s not his real nature. Besides, Floyd has seen pressure fighters all his life. Oscar’s best chance will be to fight a smart, technical fight. He’s not Jake LaMotta.” Suarez still looks at Mayweather as the one that got away. “When I had Acelino Freitas at 135, I thought we would get Mayweather,” said Suarez. “I was getting Acelino ready for Mayweather, so I’ve looked at this kid every day for years. If you remember when Emanuel Burton fought him, he beat Mayweather to the punch because he was being more consistent. Imagine Oscar De La Hoya being that consistent, but with the punching power he possesses. Oscar doesn’t have to try to knock him out, but if he’s consistent he can knock him out in eight or 10 rounds. “I’d focus on stamina and conditioning. I’d do a lot of resistance training; weightlifting is a no-no. I’d get him ready for a consistent fight. It shouldn’t go 12 rounds, but just in case it goes 12, I’d get him to where he won’t get tired. The big punches against Mayweather will be the left hook followed by a right hand. And then jab, right hand, jab. Mayweather likes to tuck his chin and back up, but Oscar can get him with bodyshots.” Harold Knight offered these comments: “Floyd drops his hands, and Oscar’s best shot is the left hook. De La Hoya needs to get off first, punch to the body and arms early. But there are so many intangibles. I don’t think Floyd can knock Oscar out, but I think Oscar can knock him out. Keep in mind, Floyd has never been in a mega-fight like this, but Oscar is used to it.”

Mike Tyson-Bruce Seldon Mike Tyson-Mark Young Vivian Harris-Diobleys Hurtado Bernard Hopkins-Oscar De La Hoya

Four knockdowns in 3 rounds, an assortment of fouls to add to the drama, both guys hurt before a picture perfect punch ended the fight.

That is all.

Ike Turner Jr. cracks me up sometimes.

some guys have admitted it or tested positive (morrison, vargas, toney)...some have just been suspected. which fighters do you think were using roids?

I'm only going from the 70s on since my fight collection from before the 1970s isn't so good. 70s: Ali-Frazier III 80s: Chacon-Edwards II 90s: Carbajal-Gonzalez I 00s: Corrales-Castillo I

Kassim Ouma Hasim Rahman Cleveland Williams Stanley Ketchel Oscar Bonevena Randy Turpin Floyd Mayweather Sr.