How Can Oscar Beat Mayweather?

How can Oscar beat Ugly Floyd Mayweather? To beat Mayweather, Oscar should consult Pacman on how to use his punches and to how pressure a very clever Ugly Boy. Nobody would have believe that Pacman would survived against El Terrible in their first encounter and KO him in the 2nd and their 3rd fight. Pacman's combo of punches from head to the body in rapid succession will probably open Ugly Boy's defenses. From the opening bell to the end Oscar should bully Ugly Boy with more left hook, uppercuts and straights in rapid succession and move his head and body to avoid getting hit. This is what Pacman did to beat Erik Morales, the best superfeatherweight, next only to Pacman.

lol hilarious thread with all those experts acting like Oscar had a chance. how is it a bunch of young guys on a message board know more about boxing than so called experts like Teddy Atlas and Manny Steward? is it because they let their bias in? Some of this so-called experts do let there bias in, And you can tell.

lol hilarious thread with all those experts acting like Oscar had a chance. how is it a bunch of young guys on a message board know more about boxing than so called experts like Teddy Atlas and Manny Steward? is it because they let their bias in?

The only way Oscar can win is if he lands a lucky punch. He can be competitive by utilizing his jab frequently and being able to counterpunch coming forward. He has to get his shot off 1st and be ready to counter. And the only way he will be able to do that is if he is well conditioned, otherwise it will be an ugly nite. Wow in hindsight, this was a damn good post.

plain and simple just the jab, a stiff jab and boxing on his toes

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wow are you kidding me.....

i studyd floyd and oscar and i knoe that oscar is going to win how is he going to win let me tell u alright oscar needs to work his body and trap him in the corner and just pressure him if u see the luis castillo fight 1 youll see how he won even larry merchant had luis catillo won that fight but unfortunatly floyd won but i also hate when people say oscar is 2 old mofo he is not old as u can see from his last fight damn... he did amazin and ask hopkins if hes old hopkins was 40 and still had the belt so idk i had sum other few stuff in mind but i forgot so oscar is going 2 win i betted 5000 on him so he shouldnt lose

Oh yeah... It is fascinating that different top trainers have different opinions on the subject. I think they all have a point, as Superlightweight does: be ready to try different things. And I add be ready to adjust and readjust, because Mayweather typically comes with a handful of possible plans. You can count on it. :boxing:

It is fascinating that different top trainers have different opinions on the subject. I think they all have a point, as Superlightweight does: be ready to try different things. And I add be ready to adjust and readjust, because Mayweather typically comes with a handful of possible plans.

Good one... Does Mayweather even know how to play chess, or does he just get stoned with 50 cent all day long while girls play him? :cop: I think Floyd will play Battle Ship, beat Oscar up, then...hit the clubs with 50. Come Monday morning, he'll be in the papers over some chick who said he slapped her and grabbed her tee tee's, because she wanted his autonograph and he said no, so she just wants 5 mill. :boxing:

How Can Oscar Beat Mayweather...? By Stepping on his feet, untying his boot laces, hitting him low, and rabbit punching him. Come on now, yall heard Oscar say he's gonna make it a dirty fight, right? Well then...isn't it enough to demand a phone booth ring, less padding Reyes gloves, and that you come in 7 pounds overweight? Pretty smart move by Oscar, ya think? :boxing:

Oscar has to control distance use his height and attack mayweather like a maddog when he chooses to go defensive. getting his jab going early would be a great benefit. If DLH fights as good a fight as he did against Mosley in their 2nd fight he has a good chance of winning. This was a good edition of ring also.

No way in hell will Oscar win a chess match against Floyd. Only if Oscar showed up 10 years younger. you'll see pretty boy

No way in hell will Oscar win a chess match against Floyd. Only if Oscar showed up 10 years younger.

http://www.thering-online.com/ringpages/readastory2.html HOW CAN OSCAR BEAT MAYWEATHER? Nine World-Class Trainers Offer Their Advice By Don Stradley Short of using a baseball bat on him in a dark alley, there doesn’t seem to be a way to beat Floyd Mayweather. It’s not as if he’s unpredictable—he does the same thing for each fight. He starts out in the counterpuncher’s stance, blocking and slipping shots. Like a good street bully, Mayweather senses when an opponent’s confidence has wilted. By the middle rounds, he’s hitting you, taunting you a bit. Eventually he’s in complete control. He doesn’t tire; he doesn’t make mistakes. His fragile hands and his tendency to be too defensive don’t take away from his being perhaps the best fighter in the game. Oscar De La Hoya, 38-4 (30), is meeting Mayweather, 37-0 (24), on May 5. They’ll be fighting at 154 pounds, a first for Mayweather. The Ring checked in with some of the game’s top trainers to see how they would prepare De La Hoya for what may be the biggest bout of his career. They all agreed that De La Hoya has a chance. They also agreed that Mayweather is a special fighter. “He’s a crafty kid,” said Emanuel Steward. “Floyd is a student of the game. He eats and sleeps boxing. When he watches boxing, he puts his nose right up to the TV set. His best performance hasn’t even happened yet. If Oscar isn’t right, Floyd could smoke him and blow him out in an electrifying performance.” “I think Mayweather is one of the top fighters in the world,” said Goody Petronelli, trainer of Marvelous Marvin Hagler. Oscar Suarez, concurs, but has some reservations. “Mayweather is the best, pound-for-pound,” said Suarez. “That kid has a gift from God. But he’s crossing the line. We are humans and we have limits. This is one line he shouldn’t be crossing, because of the size difference. Oscar is going to run through him.” Our trainers were split on whether size would make a difference in this fight. “The weight is an advantage for Oscar, because a good big man will beat a good little man,” said Petronelli. Steward, however, said, “I don’t think the weight advantage matters because Floyd is just as strong as Oscar. Oscar has never been a physical fighter. He doesn’t impose himself on an opponent. In fact, Mayweather may actually be stronger than Oscar.” So if size isn’t important, what is? “It’s about strategy,” said Joe Goossen. “When Oscar tries to press a good boxer, he’s only minimally successful. I’d say Oscar has to use his height and reach advantage. I’d have Oscar play a chess game with him and see who’s the best counterpuncher. If Oscar is in a boxer/counterpuncher mode that night, he’ll pick up on mistakes by Mayweather. That’s his only shot, to try to counter Mayweather taking the lead. Turn Mayweather into the pressure guy; let him make the first move so Oscar can counterpunch. Oscar’s got great defense, and real quick hands, and if he gets into the type of shape he was in for Mayorga, he’ll do well. But it’s about strategy.” A chess match with Mayweather? Sounds risky. “You have to know what Mayweather does well and find a way to negate those things,” said Teddy Atlas, Friday Night Fights analyst and former trainer of Michael Moorer. “Oscar has an advantage in experience and height. So you’d start with that. Mayweather has the advantage in youth and speed, so you’d want to be respectful and understanding of that. “One way to beat Mayweather’s speed is with controlled distance, controlled range. Don’t stay within the range where he can use his speed. Know where that range is and separate yourself when you want to negate his ability to get combinations off. When you are in range, look to time him. Timing can beat speed. Don’t get into a flat-out speed contest with him, but control the range with your height, and time him before he can get started. Control the outside part of the fight; keep him at the end of the jab, at the end of your punches. I would definitely use feints. Mayweather likes to anticipate punches and look for counters, so I’d try to feint him at the right time. Throw his rhythm off and get him to make preliminary movements that will keep him off-balance.” Steward agreed that Oscar should use brains rather than brawn. “I’d like to see him fight an intelligent fight. I’d like to see him fight the way he fought in 1994, ’95, when he was coming up and had a beautiful jab. I’d have him box and pull Mayweather out of his plan of laying back. I’d have him train with fast guys and box them. I’d have Oscar prepared to try to win a decision. Oscar can be a very good boxing machine.” Some trainers, however, have more mayhem in mind. “Oscar likes to box and move, but it depends who you box,” said Petronelli. “If a guy is a better boxer than me, I’m gonna be the banger, and I’m gonna put pressure on him. That’s what Oscar needs to do.” Willie Savannah, trainer of WBA lightweight titleholder Juan Diaz, said, “Oscar ain’t no dummy. He knows he’ll have to fight the hell out of him. He knows he’ll have to turn it into a street fight.” Slick fighters such as Mayweather sometimes have trouble with awkward, pressure fighters. His undefeated streak was almost snapped in 2002 when Jose Luis Castillo pushed Mayweather for 12 rugged rounds. Had the judges been more appreciative of Castillo’s work, Castillo would have won. Instead, Mayweather kept the zero in his loss column and defeated Castillo handily in their rematch. Still, Castillo’s first effort has been largely accepted as the way to beat Mayweather. “Castillo almost made him quit,” said John Ruiz’ former trainer, Norman Stone. “Floyd was looking for the door. Castillo cut the ring off and didn’t give room to breathe. I don’t know if Oscar is that type of fighter. But he’s not gonna beat him by boxing. “You’d have to bring in a lot of speedy guys for Oscar to spar. Floyd hops in and he hops out. Floyd can hit you 10 times and then ask you to make change for a quarter. Make sure Oscar puts a lot of pressure on him. It’s tough to get Oscar to fight that way. Oscar has lost some speed, but the extra weight will take some of Floyd’s speed too.” “I would use the strategy of pressure,” said Savannah. “I just can’t see Floyd going 12 hard rounds with Oscar. Oscar’s not like Zab Judah, falling all over the place and trying to look cute; he’s in control. Just get in there and put a lot of pressure on him. And when he gets him on the ropes, don’t just stand there and wait like Castillo did in their second fight. Castillo would cut the ring off on Mayweather, but he wouldn’t do anything when he got there. And you’ve got to understand, Oscar is gonna be 20 pounds heavier than Castillo was that night. I think Oscar can be a slugger when he needs to.” Bad idea, said Goossen. “If he tries to pressure Mayweather, he’ll walk into punches. I’d turn it into a chess match. If that doesn’t work, then you’ll have to go for broke and turn the pressure on later. Oscar is one of the great counterpunchers of all-time. It’s too late to turn him into Jose Louis Castillo.” “There’s a certain way for a good physical fighter to beat Mayweather, but I don’t know if Oscar can do it,” said Steward. “He has to land, then move away in a circle, and counter. They may try to have him fight like a pressure fighter, but that’s not his real nature. Besides, Floyd has seen pressure fighters all his life. Oscar’s best chance will be to fight a smart, technical fight. He’s not Jake LaMotta.” Suarez still looks at Mayweather as the one that got away. “When I had Acelino Freitas at 135, I thought we would get Mayweather,” said Suarez. “I was getting Acelino ready for Mayweather, so I’ve looked at this kid every day for years. If you remember when Emanuel Burton fought him, he beat Mayweather to the punch because he was being more consistent. Imagine Oscar De La Hoya being that consistent, but with the punching power he possesses. Oscar doesn’t have to try to knock him out, but if he’s consistent he can knock him out in eight or 10 rounds. “I’d focus on stamina and conditioning. I’d do a lot of resistance training; weightlifting is a no-no. I’d get him ready for a consistent fight. It shouldn’t go 12 rounds, but just in case it goes 12, I’d get him to where he won’t get tired. The big punches against Mayweather will be the left hook followed by a right hand. And then jab, right hand, jab. Mayweather likes to tuck his chin and back up, but Oscar can get him with bodyshots.” Harold Knight offered these comments: “Floyd drops his hands, and Oscar’s best shot is the left hook. De La Hoya needs to get off first, punch to the body and arms early. But there are so many intangibles. I don’t think Floyd can knock Oscar out, but I think Oscar can knock him out. Keep in mind, Floyd has never been in a mega-fight like this, but Oscar is used to it.” man it would be exactly how dlh said mayweather has never faced a boxer poppin the jab constantly he is just not going to be able to handle it in or out....it's very simple oscar just has to execute and time him which will be th3 hard part

Guys that tired De La Hoya a bit were guys with pretty good power to threaten Oscar. Floyd does not have this asset, so I feel conditioning will not be a problem for Oscar at all. To win, Oscar should try different things and see which works best. He could lure Floyd to him, and use his reach and speed to counter Floyd. He could walk Floyd down and counter Floyd as Floyd tries to keep him off. Or he could just go ballistic from round one and try for savage haymakers all night. Working the body has to be a key part of it. Oscar needs to hit Floyd in the body over and over, even when the arms are blocking parts of his body. Mainly, I think Oscar will have the most success if he lets Floyd lead, and then counter him with combos to the head and body.

easy, oscar has no chance of beating floyd, unless floyd grabs a mic and says, i quit before the match starts.

1- Oscar has to be ready to rumble for 12 rounds. 2- Floyd has no power at this weight. When Floyd comes in to punch stick a fist in his face. If he gets cute and tries to counter/combo over timed punches, be ready to combo with him. Speed neutralized. This punch activity should confuse the hell out of the judges on who is getting the better of an exchange... which works to Oscar's advantage since Floyd can't hurt him. this could even work if the exchange starts with Oscar and Floyd goes over it, etc. 3 - DO.. try to get Floyd to commit to a punch. Look open and wind up with your hardest shit when he thinks he sees an in. It's funny, you see a small example of this in the Judah fight where the knocked down occured. Floyd thought he could come in and "whack", right in the kisser. Imagine if Zab waited for something like that to unload full force? Floyd would've fell on his ass. 4 - Stalk, but always stay at a range where Floyd has to dip in and punch, and again, don't respect and punch back at his shit at all times.. dude's got no business at this weight. This is Oscar's best chance imo. He can impose his will without worrying about being gassed midway through the fight chasing a rabbit. Pressure could work methinks, but you've got to be in ridiculous shape trying to trap Floyd.

The only way Oscar can win is if he lands a lucky punch. He can be competitive by utilizing his jab frequently and being able to counterpunch coming forward. He has to get his shot off 1st and be ready to counter. And the only way he will be able to do that is if he is well conditioned, otherwise it will be an ugly nite.