said the same thing about the mosley fight after the draw with mora
That was a different situation. Arum wasn't talking up the Mosley fight when Roach said it shouldn't happen. I don't remember it clearly, but I believe Roach said Mosley was washed up, so it wasn't a good fight. And the Mosley fight wasn't being talked up by Arum.
I think Roach was just being honest, because he was kinda right. But with Bradley, Arum has been talking it up, and Roach has been saying no.
I'll take Peterson by UD, I actually think Peterson is EXTREMELY UNDERRATED AND OVERLOOKED!
It is funny how people hype up Ortiz but how soon do they forget that Peterson gave Ortiz SERIOUS PROBLEMS after he was able to recover for those Knock Downs and he basically Out-Boxed Ortiz for most of that fight
Yea, I think people do remember what Peterson did, but Ortiz isn't really a great boxer at all. He is just a great athlete, he has power and speed, but he doesn't use a jab to set anything up. So it's not shocking Peterson was able to outbox him.
Peterson is just one of those fighters fans don't really take to, for whatever reason.
Floyd has been telling the illiterate congressman this for three years.
And people have been telling you, you're a dumb ass, with a whore mother, that should STFU, your whole life. Yet, you still don't listen. I hate it how people are so stubborn.
I also find it hilarious this idiot asks other people, why they care about ppv buys? Yet, makes a whole thread about Mannys accountancy firm.
Racist usually are idiots, so no surprises here.
If you remember, Richard Schaefer challenged Arum to allow auditors to verify the PPV numbers, and Arum refused.
Schaefer even said that GBP would pay for the audit.
Arum knows his numbers won't withstand scrutiny.
That's why Mayweather gets $22 million to fight Mosley
..and Pacquiao got $6 million to fight Mosley.
Typical idiotic thread from the racist retard Gino Ros.
This hypocritical dumb ass has the gal to b1tch about other people caring about ppv numbers, yet here this $hitwit is doing the same thing.
I honestly don't know why anyone would take such A KNOWN RACIST seriously. What credibility does this racist idiot think he has?
pretty hard to just make your way when you were a slave, then "freed", then couldnt work, then couldnt vote or run for elected office, couldnt own a firearm, couldnt buy property even if you did have money, and even if you did have property its a good chance you would have been driven from your home or had it burned down by ravenous pink people. So youre right when youre systematically denied opportunity whereas many whites who lived here for generations already legally owned pieces of property than been in for generations. its pretty simple logic of course logic caucasoids are blind to.
mayweather is still ignorant so is his family but if he handles his money right it will be old money and his great grandchildren will be beneficiaries of his life. See how that works?
Well what you say is the common theory. But, slavery has been over for a long time.
And remember, other minorities who were in similar situations have prospered, like the Chinese.
And other minorities are also faced with racism, in fact Arabs who face the most racism in the US, are one of the most affluent minorities in America. The fact other minorities have prospered disproves the race card, sadly.
Well Zab, a southpaw did school Mayweather for the first three rounds.
HIs shoulder roll did not work against Zab for these three rounds, Zab was able to get him quite a few times.
Us boxing fans that support our fighters stick by them through thick & thin. I am just wondering why none of you A mere con fans are even making excuses for him any longer?
He keeps mentioning Floyd...dreaming of a big pay day.
He also keeps mentioning Morales...Reality is there is a very high possibility Matthysse is going to **** Morales up. Matthysse has stated he'd love to fight Khan, this guy don't demand big pay cheques, why? Because he's an oldschool type fighter that will fight any mother fcuker. Love or hate that guy, he comes to fight & is all guts.
Prescott, the Columbian farmer who knocked him the fook out just said he will spit in Khan & Khans dads face, called Khan a fraud. He has said he'll fight Khan for free ffs lol
If Prescott does what he says & knocks McCloskey out in his own backyard, that is sending out a BIG statement. (Even more doubtful Khan will fight him then)
Yet Khan keeps coming up with excuse after excuse because he is intimidated.
He can not handle a pressure fighter his size. Instead of fighting Matthysse should he win or Prescott should he win, he wants to fight Lamont Peterson...FFS! Lamont ****ing Peterson!!!
What a cherry picking little ***** this guy is, seriously. I give him props for beating Maidana, huge props! Though he's lucky the ref saved his ass against a limited Maidana.
Maidana is another fighter literally begging to fight him and it's not for a big pay day, it's unfinished business.
Why don't Khan fight him, he claims to fight for his fans and all this, oh that is right Maidana is another fighter who gives him nightmares.
As far as I am concerned, the little bit of respect I had for this clown has gone right out of the window.
Until he rematches Prescott or Maidana at least & Matthysse, he can shut up about Floyd and going to 147.
You can red K me as much as you lot like, this guys a *****. Won't attempt to avenge his loss.
COWARD!
So is this guy retarded? Or just a child?
And no Khan isn't dreaming of a big pay day, he has 35 million dollars. Now stop embarrassing yourself and STFU.
It's best to not bring these things up, a lot of blacks on this website are very easily offended.
Hey it's simple facts and statistics.
This is from the FBI.
* The percentages of adult white and black arrestees for murder were similar, with 49.6 percent being white, and 48.4 percent being black.
* Black juveniles accounted for 51.6 percent of juvenile arrests for violent crimes.
And remember, blacks only account for less than 13% of the pop in the US. What this means is that black people are BY FAR the most violent and criminal group in America. It's not like I'm making this up, these are facts.
Actually, Blacks are not doing the worst in the country.
That statistic has always been skewed and believed by lesser educated individuals. That number reflects the number of CONVICTIONS, not the number of crimes actually committed. The majority of crimes in this nation go largely UNSOLVED.
Blacks make up almost 50% of ALL murder arrests in the US.
More than 50% of all violent juvenile arrests are of blacks.
Blacks COMPLETELY over-represent when it comes to violent crimes in the US. This is from FBIs own statistics. And remember blacks only make up 12% of the pop.
Sorry, but when it comes to lack of education, crime, and poverty, black people are doing very very badly. They're at the bottom. So maybe worshiping an uneducated dumbass like Mayweather isn't the best thing in the world.
Gary Russel looks insanely talented, I'd love to see him fight Gamboa, but I doubt this fight will ever happen. Russel is young, doubt he would take this fight right now.
And by the time he is ready, or thinks he is ready, Gamboa will be an old man. Thats boxing for you.
Dude, the only reason you like Khan is because him and Pacquiao are friends.
BTW, Khan said if a fighter is clean he would have no problem taking OST...He's beem talking them his whole life.
I think you beem talking nonsense your whole life you ignorant uneducated dumb ass.
And which is it? Is khan so amazing that he mist be on peds or is he not that good? It can't be both, retard.
Poor flomos are so uneducated and ignorant, they can't even follow basic logic or common sense. Stop smoking that crack flomo, and stop bringing PAC into everything, it makes you seem desperate.
Sorry dude you must be completely blacked out. 7:40 of this clip and on he is hurt badly, and his corner even says that they are going to stop the fight. The he comes out in the 6th with no legs and he is all over the place.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEOkJSPjkGI&feature=related
Exactly, what I was saying. Well not exactly, but very close.
Maidana just fell to the ground, because his legs were gone, due to the severe beating he took. Ortiz was BADLY hurt. Ortiz lost to Maidana. There is no shame in that. But, lets not rewrite history and say Ortiz didn't get his ass kicked, because he did.
Ortiz was going to be koed, thats why he quit. But Ortiz has come back from that with his win over Berto. I like Ortiz a lot, he gives us exciting fights, and wish him luck. But, he doesn't have great boxing skills, but he is still a beast that is a threat to anyone he faces.
I read that as rapist, but it wouldn't surprise me.
HAHAHA, nice one. And no, it wouldn't surprise me either.
And I'll stop picking on this dumb ass genesis. I kinda assumed no one else would visit the thread. No point in boring everyone while I pointlessly kick his ass.
How is that true if you post the same amount of times each day everyday?
Do you honestly think I post the same amount every day? You cannot possibly be that dumb can you?
Its an average, you retard.
Read the sig..
HAHAHAHA. Oh god, this is too much. That's your sig? This is priceless. The most idiotic, futile, nonsensical, and irrelevant sig ever! I love it.
I wish I saw that sig, and never visited this thread, it would be a completely WTF moment. Like seriously WTF? Is this kid retarded?
I'm tempted to believe you're just a troll doing an impression of an idiot to get a rise out of me, in which case, you've done an excellent job convincing me that you're a real life retard.
Lol YOUR still ducking the original debate.... That you lost... Basement dweller.
HAHAHAHA. This guys is the biggest dumb ass I've ever come across. He still doesn't understand the difference between "your" and "you're". He even captilised "YOUR", and still he got it wrong. HAHAHAHAHAHA.
YOU ARE SO FUKING DUMB. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? ARE YOU ACTUALLY MENTALLY HANDICAPPED? YOU ACTUALLY CAPITILISED "YOUR", AND STILL GOT IT WRONG. HAHAHAHAHAH.
How about you address for everyone why you are so dumb? Why do you duck this? And we had the original debate settled with me kicking your ass, but you're too thick to understand it. WHY ARE YOU SO DUMB THAT YOU KEEP FAILING TO UNDERSTAND THAT "YOUR" AND "YOU'RE" ARE TWO DIFFERENT WORDS?!!
TWO FUKING DIFFERENT WORDS, DUMB ASS!!!! GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL!!! Genesis is hands down the dumbest dude on this website.
Dude, if you care about your rep one bit, just stop. I genuinely think believe you might be handicapped. I ACTUALLY FEEL BAD PICKING ON SOMEONE SO DUMB. Stop humiliating yourself, dumb ass, its beyond pathetic now.
Poor genesis, he is so humiliated and embarrassed, that he only made a short reply, and still made a fool of himself. HAHAHAHAHA.
That 6th round is just amazing. I show it to friends who aren't into boxing and they get why boxing is such a cool sport.
Great ad for the sport. But it's hardly one of the greatest fights ever. Not at all.
You don't even understand wtf you are talking about, let alone what I am... They get posts per days by dividing your posts by the amount of days you have been a member.
You have posted more on average then him, therefore you are the bigger basement dwelling queer.
Finally, you understand the word "average." Good job.
And yes, I just told you it was an average, when you idiotically said I post the same amount every day. Good job, you have the basic cognitive capacity of a five year old child. Congrats, you just learned the meaning of the word "average". And congrats on regurgitating exactly what I said, many posts ago.
I hope you also learned the difference between "their" and "there", you uneducated dip$hit. You are shamelessly dumb aren't you?
I also tried to explain to you, the shorter the time periods, the more sp!ked data is. Only similar time periods are comparable, OBVIOUSLY. But this was obviously too much for your little mind to comprehend.
And what would make you think I cannot understand what I write myself? What an insanely retarded thing to claim. Are you genuinely mentally handicapped?
Keep embarrassing yourself, dumbass. At least, there is one thing you are good at.
He was getting hit by Maidana yes but he quit because he didn't want to get hit anymore. I never saw Ortiz seriously hurt in that fight, even at the end he just walked over to the corner and sort of motioned he wanted out.
Like I said, you guys can bring up the past and hold Victor to that fight for the rest of his career but let me bring reality to you, neither Ortiz or Khan's careers will be defined by their losses no matter how hard you guys try to do it.
It's in the past, Ortiz proved himself with Berto and he is in a much better and bigger place.
I'm not saying Ortiz's lose will define him.
But, the guys was seriously beat up by Maidana. Did you not see his face? And just watch the sixth again, Ortiz fell to the ground just trying to escape Maidana, when he wasn't even hit. That's when he quit.
He quit when he wasn't even hit, because thats how badly he was hurt. Maidana is a murderous puncher, he might be the hardest p4p in boxing. There is no shame in Ortiz losing to him.
Ortiz is a dude who trades blows with dudes. Thats his style of fighting. Hopefully, he has a long and prosperous career, it's certainly possible.
why reply making the same statement that I just made?
Hey I'm SWEETSCIENCE, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SPELL OR KNOW ANY GRAMMAR OR PUNCTUATION, BUT I THINK EVERYONE ELSE IS IGNORANT. IRONIC ISN'T IT? OH WAIT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WORD MEANS.
OH AND I'M AUTOMATICALLY RIGHT, BECAUSE I WRITE EVERYTHING IN CAPS AND IN LARGE FONT. SEE? IF ITS WRITTEN SO LARGE, IT MUST BE CORRECT RIGHT?
OH I'M SO SMART THAT MY PROOF AMIR KHAN HASN'T IMPROVED, IS A VIDEO OF HIM KICKING THE ASS OF ZAB, ONE OF THE BEST 140 POUNDERS IN THE WORLD. AND I'M AUTOMATICALLY CORRECT BECAUSE I WRITE IN LARGE FONT, ALL CAPS, AND IN THE COLOR RED. ISN'T I SO SMART??
OH AND I THINK MY MOM USED TO DO CRACK WHEN SHE WAS PREGNANT WITH ME. THANKS FOR LISTENING MY N!GGAS, THIS IS SWEETSCIENCE SIGNING OFF.
WADA is the SAME all over the world. If Arum says WADA will do the testing in the philipines, it will be the EXACT same standard as USDA, which gets its protocol from the WADA.
Seriously, flomos let it go. There is no story here, other than the fact Pac has accepted olympic style testing.
Ortiz style is pressure he knows to only come forward and put pressure..Against a fighter like Maidana this is just right up. Maidanas ally..And every time I seen Ortiz box it lefta bad taste in my mouth..He does not have passion and that would be another problem against a fighter like Maidana..I just really can't see howOrtiz wins this fight tbh..
I totally agree with the JMM Pac comparsion...
Exactly. Ortiz wins by pressuring, and using his superior physical assets and bigger size. The guy has speed and power.
But Ortiz is a flat out mediocre boxer.
And lets stop this myth that Ortiz could've beat Maidana if he fought smarter. Ortiz fought the only way he knows how. The only way for Ortiz to beat Maidana is to hurt him.
Ortiz does not have the skills or know how to evade Maidana, he has to engage him, thats the basis of his whole style. That is why Ortiz lost, and why he would lose again to Maidana.
And remember, Ortiz did try to evade Maidana, and got his ass kicked whenever he went on the back foot.
I'll be rooting for Ortiz, but Mayweather is most likely going to destroy Ortiz.
It's not even going to be close, Floyd is going to school him, put on a boxing clinic.
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YOUR NOT MAKING ANY SINCE IDIOT
Oh the irony
****ing burke
Sweetscience is so shamelessly dumb, I don't know if I should laugh or cry. He should definitely cry.