Ishe Smith would most definately take the fight, he is a slimy charachter much like when he called up a cancer patient before his last fight in order to sway the commentators his way. Congrats to K-9 though, at least he can say he was a world champion at one point.
The episode was brilliant. It did however show Broner in a slightly more favourable light, when in reality he got outclassed badly. The highlights for me were when Broners trainer said ‘wtf happened there’ in round 7 when adrien was out on his feet, his father said AB isn’t listening, and even Ab’s fiance said that he needed a knock out in the 12th round lmao. You could also clearly see the pitty in Floyd’s eyes who basically said he lost.
These damn flomos. So quick to claim mythical victories. Mayweather doesn't have a win over any of those guys (Hatton @140, and @147 - Cotto, Margarito, a more prime Mosley, Paul Williams, Pacquiao). He never will.
He refused to fight ALL of them until they lost (as most great fighters do eventually when they continually fight the best as those guys did) or waited until they were old and past it or made them fight past their best weight. Yet he managed to retire for 2-3 years and fought 4 out of 7 opponents at welter who were coming up in weight or had just one fight at the weight, and he cheated Marquez on the scales.
It's the most fraudulent hi-profile welterweight career I've seen in my time watching boxing. Pacquiao can have 3, 4 or 5 close fights with Marquez won't change anything that Mayweather has done, or more precisely NOT done.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL he fought Hatton when he was undefeated, and he beat the same Mosley that destroyed Margacheato! Furthermore why is it not good for Floyd to fight Mosley and Marquez when they are 'old' but when Pacquiao does it years after Floyd it is ok? And why was Marquez deemed too small for Floyd when he is the same size as Pacquiao if not a little bigger now but Manny isnt too small for him to fight?!
Ima tell you what we do know.
We do know that:
1) Pacquiao was accused of taking steroids, refused a 50 million dollar teaspoon test of blood and now suddenly he 'wins' a lackluster performance and his powers gone.
2) We do know people love to compare common opponents i.e De la Hoya, Hatton, Mosley. We do know they were 'leftovers' and we do know that Mayweather completely toyed with Marquez in their fight. Thats what we do know.
3) We do know that Pacquiao yet again struggled against Marquez.
4) We do know Pacquiao has more than one 'L' on his record, we do know that Floyd has 42 straight wins.
5) We do know Pacquiao and Arum ducked a possibility of a Mayweather fight claiming going back to 'work in the office' but at the same time he will fight JMM 'any time.' We do know Arum wants a fourth fight with JMM but not Floyd.
I can tell you this, Had Marquez not taken the extra cash for Floyd not making weight you wouldnt be saying this ****, Floyd would have been weak from having to come down the extra couple pounds at the scales.
Yes Manny does have losses so what? whens the last time Floyd fought and un defeated fighter? Ricky Hatton? you cant really say that Collazo beat his ass to.
I understand the majority of you floyalist really really wanna have Floyds babys, However the same people talking **** today didnt give Marquez a chance going into the fight.
Obviously Marquez had a better camp for this fight than for the Mayweather fight, and I believe had he had this kind of camp and came in at 142 instead of 145, and had Floyd actually honored the weight agreement, it would have been a different fight, Floyd would have won still but it sure would not have been the fight we saw.
Haters are laughable. Any excuse in the book to put Floyd down.
You wana talk about weight?
Why the catchweight of 144? Last time i checked welterweight was at 147, has Pacquiao kept the 3 extra pounds perhaps he would have been slower and JMM would have got the knock out. Remember: Im using your flawed logic.
And btw i had Marquez down to win because i know Pacquiao is a media hype, who rose to his recent popularity from wins against a washed up De la Hoya, a defeated fighter in Hatton, and wait? Did he actually go there and fight the same Shane Mosley that Bob Arum claimed was over the hill when Floyd was fought and dominated him? And did he go there and fight the same Marquez people ridiculed Floyd over, because he was too 'small' but its clear him and Pacquiao are the same size? So JMM is too small but Manny isnt, so what is it?!
Also about camp.... most fighters claim the most recent camp was their 'greatest ever' and it is evident it is not a bodybuilding competition because if it was then Judah should have beat Khan, and Clottey should have beat Pacquaio.
I can tell you this, Had Marquez not taken the extra cash for Floyd not making weight you wouldnt be saying this ****, Floyd would have been weak from having to come down the extra couple pounds at the scales.
Yes Manny does have losses so what? whens the last time Floyd fought and un defeated fighter? Ricky Hatton? you cant really say that Collazo beat his ass to.
I understand the majority of you floyalist really really wanna have Floyds babys, However the same people talking **** today didnt give Marquez a chance going into the fight.
Obviously Marquez had a better camp for this fight than for the Mayweather fight, and I believe had he had this kind of camp and came in at 142 instead of 145, and had Floyd actually honored the weight agreement, it would have been a different fight, Floyd would have won still but it sure would not have been the fight we saw.
I had Marquez to win but not for the same Flomo logic your using, I believe its always comming down to styles and dynamics between these two.
Your right welter is at 147 check out the big brain on Floyd wannabe Money....
However when you sign a contract at a catch weight you ****ing honor that catch weight and show your a man of your word... Floyd didn't do that and though I don't agree with catch weights Manny has always made the weight that he agreed to in the contract.
Floyd blatantly failed to make the weight cus he wanted that advantage he wanted to use that fight with that advantage as a bargaining chip going into the Manny fight and it worked for the flomos......
Bottom line is, and this is real had Floyd come in at 145 I dont think he would have performed the same that weight loss would have played factor in that fight....
Hahahaahaha you Pacquiao fans make me laugh. Ifs and buts Mayweather dominated Marquez, Pacquiao had to get three contrversial decisions against him. THATS WHAT WE DO KNOW. Good day!
Oh and btw Mayweather did come over the weight limit, however he beat Marquez using pure boxng ability. There wasnt even a handful of clinches and neither boxer imposed themselves on the other using their physical strength. So there goes another of your arguments.
Any more to come? Id be glad to open up your eyes son.
Lil *****, i swear Floyd beat your ass Oscar? And i swear you sniff coke and like dressing up as a hooker. All due respect Oscar, but seriously its like Hatton calling Paquiao a bum.
Wait wait wait wait!
Ishe Smith? I mean who the f*ck are you? Who are you to even be speaking of other fighters when you my man, are nothing but a gatekeeper who's name is fast running out of credibility. This is the same man who claimed he ''busted up'' Floyd Mayweather Jr in a sparring match, ''there was blood everywhere and everything.'' :wow:
Ok wait there's more. This is the same Ishe smith that took the piss out of Zab Judah for pulling out of the Mosley fight, comparing Judahs cuts to his own minor one. Needless to say, Judah told this punk to keep his name outta his mouth. I mean who are you Ishe, to even mention Zab and his career?!
Sugar Shay? Theres nothing sweet about this bum, hes bin through countless managers, badmouthed everyone on the way and is only good for being beaten upon in sparring (and he is proud of this fact.)
Floyd can choose a catchweight because he is the face of boxing right now. Damn he could even have told Canelo to come down to 147, that ginger head should be grateful that he is making his biggest pay day! Stop crying about the CW lol so what if Floyd called out Manny for catchweights, obviously he is human and will talk bs and contradict himself sometimes. I mean the guy was saying that Jessie Vargas is the future of boxing LOL
Former Contender star Ishe Smith has been accused by Floyd Mayweather Jr as spying for Oscar De La Hoya. According to Ishe he was invited to the gym by one of Floyd's team members while shopping for ear rings for his daughter in a Las Vegas mall. Ishe was reportedly asked to leave by one of Mayweather's team members, “ Oscar De La Hoya is a 5 or 6 time world champion, I don't even have access to De La Hoya like that. Oscar is a great promoter, but as far as a personal relationship with the guy, I don't have it. These accusations of spying for Oscar De La Hoya are crazy. It was one of Floyd's team mates that invited me to the gym, does that sound like I was spying?” Floyd also commented that he had busted up Ishe in the past, referring to a sparring session that the two had had approximately 10 years ago, “ He comes on the record and talks about a sparring session that happened almost 10 years ago? He says he busted me up? He had one good day, and then I came back the next day and beat him up, his nose was bleeding and everything. For this guy to come out and say that he beat me up, and that I am spying on him is utterly ridiculous.” He sent one of his guys to come up to me, after I was invited by them, to leave the gym, so I professionally just got my stuff and left. Then I read on another boxing website that he is saying on the record that I am spying on him? And that he beat me up like 10 years ago? I was invited to his gym, it's not like I went down there and just popped up, his guy invited me, this is crazy!”
LOOOOOL school him like you schooled Sergio Mora LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Ishe is a class A bum, i don't know why he was even given the privilege of an article to voice his opinion. The guy was, at best, a sparring partner. He isn't relevant nor will he ever be. All he does is talk trash, and is an A-grade example of sour grapes. Maybe he should talk about how he lost to lesser fighters, is boring, talks sh*t about fighters in a better situation than him, and finally how he cries like a b*tch whenever he comes up short rather than moving foward and accepting these things happen! This guy sure as hell has SPARRED with De La Hoya, Vargas, Mosley, and Mayweather but i guess he was just a moving punching bag who got boosted off sharing the ring with such names.
Wait i remember he talked **** to Floyd after the Mayweather camp accused him of being a De La Hoya spy, and after Floyd told Btalk how he beat him down during sparring he spoke of how he busted up Mayweather in a sparring session ''he was bleeding and everything'' LOL
Smith is a bum. All he does is complain complain and complain some more. Hes got his ass handed to him more than once, and he even once claimed on btalk that he gave Mayweather a spanking in sparring lmao