From what i heard Margarito offered the them the hand which had the plaster in so they could check it, makes you wonder whether he really did know when you hear stuff like this, by all accounts he shows little remorse, which either means if he is guilty he is a stone cold mofo, or that he actually was oblivious and therefore believes he has nothing to apologize for.
I think the whole issue got blown way outta proportion myself, not that im a Margarito supporter.
yep, sorry, another thread on this fight...but something Ive always found amusing: despite the fact that it was quite a close fight, I dont think Ive ever seen someone score it a draw. nope, never heard one person say they had it 113-113. Its always a win for Castillo or a win for Mayweather. God forbid we give them the same number of rounds.
7-5 Castillo i had it, Castillo was on his ass the entire fight after the 4th round and was landing the harder shots.
To be honest, whilst i can see someone giving it as a draw, i think you would have to be giving Mayweather the benefit of the doubt more than Castillo if you were to score it as a Mayweather win.
Rounds 6/7 were big rounds for Castillo.
threads like this show who boxes..and who just watches boxing...we need more threads like this to educate non boxers..green k to thread starter
Agree, nice one Larry.
We have had our heated debates but i always thought you were a good poster, i dont expect you feel the same the way i rag on Floyd Lol, but i still respect you as a poster, plus, i can tell you know your stuff.:boxing:
I think cotto shuffles his feet pretty well when moving backwards. I don't ever really see him in danger of crossing his feet when backing up.
but when cotto jabs, he doesn't shuffle in with his left foot first. he pushes off with his right foot and then he steps forward with his left foot. cotto I think does this for 2 reasons. (1) he gets more power into his jab by pushing off his backfoot (2) it's harder for his opponent to time his jab if they are looking for cotto to move his left foot. this is a fundamental flaw, but its forgivable as long as it serves a purpose.
He does not cross his feet specifically, but he is on the verge of doing this before he steps with the lead foot, which is a major issue, if/when someone attacks you when your in that transition, plus, when you have to move fast you have to take more steps because your lead foot has to keep catching up with the back foot before you can move.
cotto's a southpaw turned orthodox which means he's not only left handed but left footed as well...while it's rather easy to turn the other way and fight right handed, it's a lot harder to fight right footed as well, and cotto does not as he uses his left foot as his lead...this is why i hate turning fighters stances b/c it ruins their footork and causes them to get caught flatfooted and take more punishment than necessary a la miguel cotto
100% agree. I have noticed that when ever i have tried to go Southpaw, that my hands work fine, but i dont feel like i have the same freedom when i want to use my legs, my legs just dont feel in-sync with my hands.
I used to watch Hagler i think to myself, that Southpaw stance does not do a lot for his footwork imo.
i also think this is what stewart meant when he said cottos footwork was a mess when he first joined the team..
More than likely.
Cotto seemed to keep his weight more central in the Foreman instead of reverting to having his weight exclusively on the front-font, that to me is why he used to get raked with uppercuts, he was leaning in too much and because he had those ear muffs on he was wide open up the middle, infact a combo that stuck in my mind that Margarito used against him to good effect was, a double uppercut with the left hand to jar his head outta his gloves, then a booming right over the top when he jarred his head out of his gloves.
I must admit I'm a Lederman fan.
Apart from on a few occasions I think he calls the fight how I see it.
But the Alexander/Kotelnik I can only assume he fell alseep after round 2 coz he just wasn't gonna give Kotelnik credit of anything.
'Clean and effective punching' is what he always says (and did about 8 times that fight). And the majority of the clean shots were from Kotelnik.
Incredible how Lederman could only have given him two rounds.
You know now you have mention it ive noticed something with Lederman, he seems to get the rounds right early on, then he kinda goes off track giving rounds to fighters they may not necessarily of won, i always start out agreeing with him, then in the mid rounds he has me going WTF at atleast one of his rounds Lol.
Don't try to stop me this time Smee, don't you DARE try to stop me this time SMEE, try to stop me Smee... SMEE, get your ass over here and stop me! I'm committing suicide!
Ha Ha.
Hook!, Hook!, Hook!
This could be an interesting fight though imo, Mora, if nothing else, has a very herky jerky style and uses lots of feints, thats what gave Forrest so much trouble in the first fight, that and the fact Forrest was not 100%, Mosley really is starting to slow down to, his performances, as seems to be the case with all aged fighters, are starting to go up and down, so i would not be shocked to see Mora give him some issues in the fight, Mosley's reflexes are shot imo, his stamina seems to have gone to.
Not to mention, Mosley is just not as good a fighter at 154. This is a very good matchup. Just shouldn't be on PPV.
Agreed.
Im surprised they would want to match him with someone so awkward, i mean look how he struggled to get to grips with Mayorga's punches, strange rhythm.
Source: On The Ropes Radio Episode 84
Hopkins is right, if Wlad had a chin, then he would most probably be elite, particularly with his power and skills, but he dont, therefore, he has to be a notch below, which is B class, C class is far too low for a reigning HW champ with how many successful defense, dont agree that he is c class, he is B class though imo
You might say there have been signs of him slipping to, of coarse Mayweather hardly got hit against JMM, but there were a few shots that broke through and caught him, now i cant help but think he does not get hit with those punches 2/3 years ago.
Look at the Mosley fight to.
Go try it in that type of UFC environment and come back and ask me the same question.
I dont need to do that, i know its a different sport(entertainment), that is all i need to know.
Dana White should concentrate on UFC, honestly, its as though UFC is so insignificant that they have to get some notoriety from a real sport, Boxing.
Just get on with your UFC BS, that is all.
* Oscar De La Hoya vs Floyd Mayweather was an obvious win by Floyd. The SD was a disgrace to boxing
* Oscar De La Hoya beat Felix Trinidad, Biggest robbery in history
* Manny Pacquiao's win over Oscar De La Hoya was overrated. Was a good win but who couldnt beat a weight-drained, past prime fighter in De La Hoya?
* Manny Pacquiao's win over Miguel Cotto was also bullshit because Miguel wasnt allowed to be at the Welterweight Limit. And the fight was for Miguels title ...... pretty dam stupid IMO
* Ricky Hatton was damaged goods against Manny. Floyd ruined him physically and mentally
* CungLe is the biggest douche bag on boxingscene
I thought it was a clear! win for Mayweather when i watched it back and scored it, first time i saw it i felt Oscar lost by about 2 rounds, however i had it 8-4 when i scored it, however i can see why some people had it closer, because whilst Mayweather was landing clean punches his output was so minimal at times that there was room for interpretation, especially if you want to reward the guy coming foward, which is not something i subscribe to, but many do.
I dont see why Pacs win over DLH is overrated when its not rated that highly.
Bernard Hopkins fought DLH at 156 or something, he still knocked Oscar out, also, Hopkins was really a LHW who boiled down to 160 most his career. That(Cotto fight) was an excellent win imo.
I do think Ricky was past it, thought he looked like a past prime fighter against Lazcano in his comeback fight.
Mayweather Will Fight Pacquiao When He Feels Like It: Floyd Mayweather Jr. will eventually fight Manny Pacquiao, when he feels like it. “Money” Mayweather is his own boss nowadays and he is not going to submit to a deadline given to him by his former promoter Bob Arum (Pacquiao’s rep) whom he still has a beef with. Mayweather is enjoying being a rich man and he is the one holding the boxing public hostage to a Mayweather vs. Pacquiao fight. No matter who Floyd fights he will be the one calling the shots. When Mayweather returned from his two year retirement to face Juan Manuel Marquez he came in 2 Lbs. over the contracted weight limit (on purpose) and was fined $600,000.
This is precisely why he has no argument when he asks Pac to take OST on unfounded claims, because if the situation were reversed his giant ego would be too offended and he would not of submitted to them either.
Nope, Margarito has a name, that is all, thats the problem with fans these days, they look at the names rather than the actual fights, id sooner watch a collision coarse between two top prospects than watch this tbh.
Cant see him stopping Kotelnik.
I also think that because of his style, that Alexander will engage Kotelnik more than he would like.
Key weapon will prolly be Alexander's jab imo, he will most likely be able to control and set things up better.
Because they would be lucky to get past journeyman status, the best fighters are either gifted physically, Pacquaio, so can make mistakes and get away with it, or they are technically brilliant because they have been Boxing since the age of 7/8, Mayweather.
Loads of people have made the transition to MMA, however Boxers train all their life, some never make it either, even guys that did start at the age of 10 and had extensive amateur careers.