If Americans wanted to box, the Klitschkos would be bums....

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Ross Puritty and Tommy Morrison are both from the state of Oklahoma, which is one of the biggest college football areas in the country. If they were being raised in the current era instead of 20 years ago theyd probably be Linebackers instead of Heavyweights. We saw what would happen to a Klitschko back when the division was still strong. Purrity beat the living hell out of Wlad and stole his virginity! http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4572/purritywlad.gif Yes Purrity gave Wlad a horrific beating, i actually felt sorry for klitschko

I guess you missed Ali vs Mildenberg. In fact, Ali and otherAmerican fighters fought a number of European heavyweights. Russia doesnt represent all of Europe. Russia is not the soviet union. The soviet union included 11 countries which include Russia, Ukraine, Armenia and Kazakhastan These are areas where alot of good fighters come from

I guess you missed Ali vs Mildenberg. In fact, Ali and otherAmerican fighters fought a number of European heavyweights. Russia doesnt represent all of Europe. I'm well aware of that. Look at all the hotspots for boxing in europe right now. Germany, Ukraine, Armenia, Poland....all part of the eastern bloc and at 1 point were not allowed to compete professionally.

Ross Puritty and Tommy Morrison are both from the state of Oklahoma, which is one of the biggest college football areas in the country. If they were being raised in the current era instead of 20 years ago theyd probably be Linebackers instead of Heavyweights. We saw what would happen to a Klitschko back when the division was still strong. Purrity beat the living hell out of Wlad and stole his virginity! http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4572/purritywlad.gif

never did i say europeans were dominating any era. But since you bring it up it brings me back to my point that shortly after the rematch WW2 started and the rise of the berlin wall prevented any aspiring eastern bloc fighter from competing professionally. So we will never know if Europeans would have been able to compete with the greatest american heavyweights in boxing's golden age. we do know though, the best americans will always wipe the floor with other nations

That's one fighter, one fight.. Eastern Europeans in general were NOT dominating that Era. Or even competing in it at that weight. That's one fighter against how many Americans? never did i say europeans were dominating any era. But since you bring it up it brings me back to my point that shortly after the rematch WW2 started and the rise of the berlin wall prevented any aspiring eastern bloc fighter from competing professionally. So we will never know if Europeans would have been able to compete with the greatest american heavyweights in boxing's golden age.

I'm not even european. I'm simply saying there's no definitive way of comparing the europeans with the americans because the decline of american heavyweights in the past 20 years actually skews the data rather than confirming it. European heavyweights have always been contenders in the olympics throughout history. European fighters have been able to compete with the greatest of great american fighters before the iron curtain went up. So we can never really know for sure whether or not the Ali or fraziers of days past would have been as good as they were had european heavyweights been able to compete professionally during their era. I guess you missed Ali vs Mildenberg. In fact, Ali and otherAmerican fighters fought a number of European heavyweights. Russia doesnt represent all of Europe.

But he's an ATG, and he was in MUCH better shape for Vitali than he was for Rahman. Besides, since when are today's fighters as good as ATGs? Even if Vitali would lose to Ali, Foreman, etc, so would these "American HWs" if they existed. Just like Sugar Ray Leonard would mop the floor with every WW today, or like Holyfield would destroy Steve Cunningham at CW, or like Robinson could probably take a crap on Sergio Martinez, Kelly Pavlik, etc. No, Sugar Ray Leonard vs Floyd Mayweather would be an even fight at 147,

Lennox Lewis was an old fat man in that fight, and he had turned the tide and had Vitali ready to go, the doctor saved Vitali from being blinded and knocked into an invalid. besides Lewis is not american, so who cares But he's an ATG, and he was in MUCH better shape for Vitali than he was for Rahman. Besides, since when are today's fighters as good as ATGs? Even if Vitali would lose to Ali, Foreman, etc, so would these "American HWs" if they existed. Just like Sugar Ray Leonard would mop the floor with every WW today, or like Holyfield would destroy Steve Cunningham at CW, or like Robinson could probably take a crap on Sergio Martinez, Kelly Pavlik, etc. Or what about how Willie Pep would make Juanma and Gamboa look like Matthew Hatton.

The Klitschkos are dominating because the US heavyweight division has severely weakened. Its not a reflection of your archetypical great american fighter vs your archetypical great european fighter. But the Klistchkos were already contenders and champions before the decline of the american heavyweight. along with the likes of andrew golota. Ok lets forget the Klits. Lets focus on the other euros HW. I mean they arent immpresive at all yet will beat probably every American

That's one fighter, one fight.. Eastern Europeans were NOT dominating that Era. and it was a fluke, schmelling was punished in the rematch, and besides he was german, not soviet

Just remember before that iron curtain went up European heavyweights were able to compete even with the greatest of american fighters. That's one fighter, one fight.. Eastern Europeans in general were NOT dominating that Era. Or even competing in it at that weight. That's one fighter against how many Americans?

Wlad has a bad chin, I will give you that. But what about Vitali? He was kicking Byrd's ass, but he couldn't continue because of hand trauma. And the only other guy to beat him is Lennox Lewis, and he was giving him the fight of his life and even leading on the score cards before the stoppage. I highly doubt those guys would dominate Lennox Lewis, even at that point in his career. Lennox Lewis was an old fat man in that fight, and he had turned the tide and had Vitali ready to go, the doctor saved Vitali from being blinded and knocked into an invalid. besides Lewis is not american, so who cares

Yes i agree. but when you look at the HW division, did the europeon fighter just simply beat and overmatch great american HW or did the HW division in the US severly weaken? Its sad that the HW american savior was at 1 time a man 6'2, 260 pounds who didnt like to train and drank beer during training camp. The Klitschkos are dominating because the US heavyweight division has severely weakened. Its not a reflection of your archetypical great american fighter vs your archetypical great european fighter. But the Klistchkos were already contenders and champions before the decline of the american heavyweight. along with the likes of andrew golota.

its easy, can you imagine lamon brewster bashing up ali? how about chris byrd beating the crap out of george foreman and making him quit? or corrie sanders beating the shit out of evander holyfield and making him crawl around the ring on all fours like a DOG Wlad has a bad chin, I will give you that. But what about Vitali? He was kicking Byrd's ass, but he couldn't continue because of hand trauma. And the only other guy to beat him is Lennox Lewis, and he was giving him the fight of his life and even leading on the score cards before the stoppage. I highly doubt those guys would dominate Lennox Lewis, even at that point in his career. He was in much better shape for that fight than he was against Rahman the first time. And since when are today's boxers as good as the ATGs? So even if Vitali can't beat guys like Ali, I doubt these "American HWs" would either. And again, he gave an ATG the fight of his life.

What makes you people so sure that the Americans would beat the Klitschkos? There's absolutely no proof of that. Their dominance has nothing to do with being European or being American. They're just good boxers! This is a new low...Worse than Pactard-Flomo wars because at least those people have mental problems and no lives...Neither Americans or Europeans are superior to eachother. They're all good, and both have gotten a lot of what they learned from the other. For an example, Adamek would have gotten f**ked up by Arreola if he hadn't started using the American boxing style. Oh no the the Klits are Great, i have nothing against them, but other then them there isnt another great HW Cmon Tony thompson, Arreola, and Johnson are the top americans, something is wrong

I'm not even european. I'm simply saying there's no definitive way of comparing the europeans with the americans because the decline of american heavyweights in the past 20 years actually skews the data rather than confirming it. European heavyweights have always been contenders in the olympics throughout history. European fighters have been able to compete with the greatest of great american fighters before the iron curtain went up. So we can never really know for sure whether or not the Ali or fraziers of days past would have been as good as they were had european heavyweights been able to compete professionally during their era. Yes i agree. but when you look at the HW division, did the europeon fighter just simply beat and overmatch great american HW or did the HW division in the US severly weaken? Its sad that the HW american savior was at 1 time a man 6'2, 260 pounds who didnt like to train and drank beer during training camp.

What makes you people so sure that the Americans would beat the Klitschkos? There's absolutely no proof of that. Their dominance has nothing to do with being European or being American. They're just good boxers! This is a new low...Worse than Pactard-Flomo wars because at least those people have mental problems and no lives...Neither Americans or Europeans are superior to eachother. Both have gotten most of what they learned from the other. For an example, Adamek would have gotten f**ked up by Arreola if he hadn't started using the American boxing style. its easy, can you imagine lamon brewster bashing up ali? how about chris byrd beating the crap out of george foreman and making him quit? or corrie sanders beating the shit out of evander holyfield and making him crawl around the ring on all fours like a DOG