Something i noticed about Cotto in the Margarito fight..............

i also think this is what stewart meant when he said cottos footwork was a mess when he first joined the team.. More than likely. Cotto seemed to keep his weight more central in the Foreman instead of reverting to having his weight exclusively on the front-font, that to me is why he used to get raked with uppercuts, he was leaning in too much and because he had those ear muffs on he was wide open up the middle, infact a combo that stuck in my mind that Margarito used against him to good effect was, a double uppercut with the left hand to jar his head outta his gloves, then a booming right over the top when he jarred his head out of his gloves.

I've suffered from the same problem as Cotto when i started boxing. As a lefty, it's hard to keep that foot from crossing over. I don't do it much now, but it still happens now and again.

ive always respected you..cause you say what u say but not in a disrespectful manner props ..............:boxing:Cool

threads like this show who boxes..and who just watches boxing...we need more threads like this to educate non boxers..green k to thread starter Agree, nice one Larry. We have had our heated debates but i always thought you were a good poster, i dont expect you feel the same the way i rag on Floyd Lol, but i still respect you as a poster, plus, i can tell you know your stuff.:boxing:

you're suppose to push off of the back foot while jabbing Yes, especially when going backwards, see Ali when he throws triple jab off the backfoot.

I think cotto shuffles his feet pretty well when moving backwards. I don't ever really see him in danger of crossing his feet when backing up. but when cotto jabs, he doesn't shuffle in with his left foot first. he pushes off with his right foot and then he steps forward with his left foot. cotto I think does this for 2 reasons. (1) he gets more power into his jab by pushing off his backfoot (2) it's harder for his opponent to time his jab if they are looking for cotto to move his left foot. this is a fundamental flaw, but its forgivable as long as it serves a purpose. I use this a lot, jab becomes much stiffer. How do you mean a fundamental flaw, only problem i see with it is you cant move away from a counter as fast as when jabbing the other way?

I think cotto shuffles his feet pretty well when moving backwards. I don't ever really see him in danger of crossing his feet when backing up. but when cotto jabs, he doesn't shuffle in with his left foot first. he pushes off with his right foot and then he steps forward with his left foot. cotto I think does this for 2 reasons. (1) he gets more power into his jab by pushing off his backfoot (2) it's harder for his opponent to time his jab if they are looking for cotto to move his left foot. this is a fundamental flaw, but its forgivable as long as it serves a purpose. He does not cross his feet specifically, but he is on the verge of doing this before he steps with the lead foot, which is a major issue, if/when someone attacks you when your in that transition, plus, when you have to move fast you have to take more steps because your lead foot has to keep catching up with the back foot before you can move.

i don't know about other styles of fighting but boxing is all about weight transfer, for generating power and movement. as previously noted, cotto has a habit of throwing his right foot out there and moving his left foot afterward. this is an example of jack dempsey's "jolt" style of jabbing, i believe he named it. it is a jab with the intent to do just as much harm to an opponent as a power punch while still remaining as untelegraphed as possible. you place the weight on that front foot then shoot it out towards your opponent without warning and the backfoot will provide that little jump. as for that mayweather video, first he's shifting his weight to his backfoot before moving it. i think its so noticable, despite his speed, because he first goes to the backfoot due to his defensive/ countering reflex and then he doesn't see any exploitable opening at that time so he moves away at an angle to limit his opponent's attack possibilities.

no he doesnt..look closely..he pushes back on his lead foot first,,then steps with the backfoot ...................Spot on.

hell naw..you push back on your lead foot first..then step back with the foot in the back Mayweather moves his back foot and then slides the lead foot back.

Another mistake was not clinching after countering him.But good observation im a southpaw fighting orthodox and realized that i do it also!!Shit not even my trainer has ever told me that and i trained with Manny Siacca and Wilfredo Vazquez SR in Puerto Rico and they didnt even tell me that either!!!

That would almost make sense in a sport such as soccer (football), but not in boxing. I agree, I do not quite understand what he means by that. kicking a soccer ball is a perfect point...everyone is either left or right footed as well as left or right handed...some people are left handed/right footed and vice-versa...cotto's left footed and left handed but fights out of a righty style

I'm pretty sure most fighters when backing up move their back foot before their lead foot.

He made lots of mistakes on that fight when he moved backward he did it in straight lines, when on the ropes he didn't turn Marg he just stood there, punch and got hit back instead of clinching.

Thanks man you just made me realize one of my own mistakes. ..............:boxing: Nice one

what the hell is left footed?? That would almost make sense in a sport such as soccer (football), but not in boxing. I agree, I do not quite understand what he means by that.

cotto's a southpaw turned orthodox which means he's not only left handed but left footed as well...while it's rather easy to turn the other way and fight right handed, it's a lot harder to fight right footed as well, and cotto does not as he uses his left foot as his lead...this is why i hate turning fighters stances b/c it ruins their footork and causes them to get caught flatfooted and take more punishment than necessary a la miguel cotto 100% agree. I have noticed that when ever i have tried to go Southpaw, that my hands work fine, but i dont feel like i have the same freedom when i want to use my legs, my legs just dont feel in-sync with my hands. I used to watch Hagler i think to myself, that Southpaw stance does not do a lot for his footwork imo.

cotto's a southpaw turned orthodox which means he's not only left handed but left footed as well...while it's rather easy to turn the other way and fight right handed, it's a lot harder to fight right footed as well, and cotto does not as he uses his left foot as his lead...this is why i hate turning fighters stances b/c it ruins their footork and causes them to get caught flatfooted and take more punishment than necessary a la miguel cotto

there should be lots of footage of cotto retreating to confirm this