he has been taking lidocaine injections in both hands before fights for many years - reportedly since late 2005 or early 2006 after injuring both hands. Lidocaine is a pain killer that is allowed only within certain medicinal limits as it pertains to professional athletic competition. Guess which one and where? Boxing...and Nevada. PBF has only fought in Nevada since 2006...and currently only holds a Nevada license.
Perhaps this is another reason why he wouldn't fight in Dallas?
Nah, I'm still going with the notion that he's scared.
TheRef
You have piqued my interest, i'll bite. It is an interesting thought, but without screaming my head off, is there any way to get more information on this lidocaine usage?
edit: dir, how about I try using google? Heh heh heh.
Yeah thats pretty sketchy. That is one reason he wouldn't have fought in dallas, makes sense. Good eye mr TheRef
The same can be said for MMA
I don't even know who sells PPV well there, but without that WWE guy, St Piere and a few names, they would struggle too
You can tell I don't know much about MMA lol
Thats crazy that for someone who doesnt know mma very well, that you know St Pierre, weird.
Anyway, Mir's opinion is biased. If Mir were in boxing he would say MMA will go down. If Floyd Mayweather were in the ufc he would say the cage is the new hit thing and boxing lost its flare. No creature (human or otherwise) would dedicate their life to something, then say their sport is boring to watch and would disappear without a few key people. Its just him trying to make himself feel better, thats all, dont take it for more than it is.
Personally, I love MMA, but it is not boxing. Also, I really love boxing, but it is not MMA. There are enough followers for both sports, neither of them will go away. Sure, it might stop being televised, or worth all this money, or whatever, but you will always have people that want to watch both or either.
This is such a moronic comparisson I'm not even gonna bother replying, lulz what a joke you are.
Dont even try to get me angry over the internet, I have caps lock on this keyboard and I'm not afraid to UNLEASH THE ****ING FURY!!
Cotto would have been dead if Margarito had good natural punching power, AND plaster of paris combined.
Since all he had was the weighted gloves and little else, then it was about the same as a hard hitting light heavyweight, which would have done to Cotto's face, what happened in the Margarito fight.
Think of it like this, even if a child throws a brick at you, yeah its a brick and all that, but yeah he cant throw it very hard, ya get me?
When you are walking on the sidewalk and you use proper head movement to avoid tree branches.
When in a crowded area like the mall, you use footwork and pivoting to avoid bumping into anyone.
When your girlfriend tries to tickle you, you assume the "Philly Shell" stance.
You spend an extra 3 minutes in the bathroom at work, shadowboxing and trying to figure out the correct footwork for Floyd Mayweather Jr's leaping left hook.
When someone tosses something to you, you arent expecting it, and you are mad at yourself when you lean back to dodge it, thinking to yourself "Damn, if I did that in a fight, the guy could have knocked me out."
You do crunches at the local gym (not a boxing gym) with your hands in front of your face like a fighting stance.
Your head pops up like a meerkat whenever someone even mentions the word boxing, even if its a FedEx employee talking about shipping a package.
You think it is perfectly normal to carry a small thing of vaseline around with you in your backpack, and you arent afraid to admit it.
When you see a random guy with a scar over his eye the first thing that pops into your head is "He should have worked on his head movement more".
You practice your "staredown" face in the mirror while brushing your teeth.
And finally, yes...I am guilty of every single one of these.
It was his birthday,they're obviously drunk,no harm done.
Sure, then next thing you know your accidental club-footed child speaks in a slur "Mommie y did u kisss uncle and makk mee dis waye?"
I have read this, and I shall reply with:
Loading your gloves > Anything anyone could possibly say.
Isnt there a saying about a man is judged by his actions and not his words?
I think it's in the bible or something.
Edit: Also, possession is 9/10's of the law or something, it was in his wraps in at least one fight, thats enough doubt for me.
Is this just a bait thread so you can get all the pactards to come in here and talk shit?
I don't believe he uses them but I do have reasons for questioning him.
You have 30+ pages of this
http://politics.nashvillepost.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/donkey.jpg
Yes, this was a bait thread.
Doesn't change the fact arguing on the internet is fun!
The greatest player in the history of the NBA was passed on as a starter in high school. In his HOF induction speech, Jordan actually flew the guy in who he was passed for just to prove his point. Maybe Pac should fly Rustico Torrecampo in his HOF induction.
Jordan sounds like an asshole.
Anyway, Manny weighed in over for that fight and had to use gloves 2 oz heavier, which of course, made it impossible for him to win, stop your complaining.
I understand what adultery means..... But, this is not the arguement...
We were talking about the biblical sense of adultery as pertaining to the relatively new translation of "cheating" when in the context of the Bible clearly shows adultery having to do with property......
I was speaking of the Ten Commandments not meanings in the dictionary....
I think we all can agree that the Bible looks down on steroid use.
I think I'm just gonna keep posting the same reply...
INNOCENT...until...proven GUILTY...
Its hilarious people are applying the question to religion...
We are talking boxing...
Don't go outside the box to make yourselves feel better...
http://www.stephencjensen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/brick-loud-noises-a.jpg
Innocent until proven guilty, that's why...
And there is nothing aside from a loud mouth coward and his daddy pushing an imaginary issue that is making everyone else think otherwise...
Your arguement is invalid.
With this logic, an atheist and a preist try to prove the theory of god or lack of god to each other, which means they poth fail, and both arguements become faulty.
Congratulations, because of you, the world has exploded. And considering the fact that you embrace flawed logic, any attempt at retort from you will simply be a temper tantrum because you cannot stand to be incorrect, deal with it and move on, you look silly.
The only thing, that we, as boxing fans, know, without a doubt, and with all certainty, is that we are not pacquio, and thusly, cannot know without certainty, if he did, or did not, do, or did not do, anything, at all, at any point and time.
Hagler. Taking a right hand from one of the deadliest right hands in middleweight history (Hearns), not to mention just being an overall tough mofo.
He gets my vote.
honestly....now n days this is all these guys have to hold onto. You can't deny what he does in the ring no matter how hard you try, so they just gravitate to b.s. allegation because of their hate, and that's the only thing they can use to belittle pac's accomplishments.
To me, it's fukkin disgusting.
He is innocent until proven guilty. Why do you try so hard to protect him? Or you keep seeing guys who fought at 113 all of a sudden dominate in the 145 region? Most people here haven't.
You still don't have proof.
WTF! The earth is flat!
There's a difference between using your brain and using your imagination, which you have obviously mastered.
I still have the ability to use both those thing, you seem to be the master of turning off your brain, sticking to your opinion, and allowing no possible room for change.
Try thinking, what if? Could be? Maybe?
If you only do things that are proven, you wouldnt be able to go outside, for safety is not guarenteed, you would not eat, cause you cannot prove you will not choke, and why even breathe, because it cannot be proven toxins are not in the air.
Open your mind, look at things, use your head. Its like you are fighting me because you don't like me, rather than our topic.
Did you read the whole thread? It was a response to someone who said that Lebron was already great at a young age, unlike Manny who just got better recently, therefore he must be taking steroids.
My response was that MJ wasn't great either at the beginning but became the best withouth the help of steroids, kind of like Manny, IMO.
I don't care how Manny lost and I don't care if he lost, the fact that he is the best right now is a akin to MJ being the best after a so-so start to his career.
Stop riding my nuts because I actually like Pacquiao and what he has achieved in his career. Read the thread first and then reply. Wad.
I am not on your nuts. I prefer the nuts of someone who is correct, and you, who is not, are nuts with which I desire no contact.
Two things, Pac was great since the beginning, and the steroids only helped.
2. Pacquio was not willing to do a blood test ->he has something to hide -> he is doing something that will show up on a blood test. Stop trying to protect your dream of a perfect fighter. Just because Pac needs a little help doesnt mean he is bad, it just means he is willing to do things legit fighters are not willing to do, and it evens the score. No harm done.
I think he is... Very shady. He was NEVER this dominant at 130lbs etc. All of a sudden he is dominating bigger fighters and looking as fast and STRONGER than ever?
Nah...
Reality: Steroids is everywhere in sports. The fact that he played stupid about taking a test is very revealing.
Pactards resume your sausage party now..
Good luck trying to leave, arguing for no apparent reason against something that cannot be proven or disproven is like a drug. I've already tried to leave this thread 7 times.
Welcome to the dark side.
So with that in mind, is there any logical reason that elite and professional athletes, their unions, and/or organizations would oppose blood tests that could prove complete innocence above all else?
That is, any reason other than $$$$$$$.
No, it is money.
1. Blood tests cost more money.
2. People like the exciting home runs and fast, explosive things, which are aided with PED's, which means more money.
3. Pee tests still let promoters make their extra money (see #2) while saying "See? Everyone is playing fair"
Its like the kid who hides something behind his back, tucks it into his pants, then shows you his hands and says "Im innocent, I didnt do anything wrong."
Blood tests are like strip searches. Nobody wants to strip search a kid, thats just gross.
Steroids? What steroids? Did he test positive for it yet? Is there a link for the positive test.
Is Santa real, too. Do you have proof?
We had proof the world was flat, we had proof the earth was the center of the universe.
Are you going to try to explain global warming to me next?
Try opening your eyes and use your common sense. I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm just saying, come on, you have a brain, engage it.
I was being sarcastic, fool. I was alluding to the fact that Jordan wasn't that great either in high school but became the best player in the history of the sport. Without steroids. Just like Manny's rise to the top.
You arent making any sense, Pacquio has only one loss which was unfair considering he didnt make weight and had to use heavier gloves, so it doesnt count. Jordan was bad in highschool, while Pacquio was an amazing boxer at such a tender age.
You are comparing oranges to basketballs.
Try making sense:?!:
I saw this guy meeting Floyd Mayweather Jr in Washington D.C Yesterday!!! The Mayweather-Mosley Tour Landed in D.C. yesterday and was open to the public...He got to shake his hand ....He got pic's and he also met uncle Roger.
I Love Life
Btw, the best boxer in the world is Roy Jones Jr.
You see, the thing is, every one is saying Roy Jones never fought anybody, but truth be told, he just makes them look like no body, they all must have forgotten. Plus, Roy Jones cant be stoped, moved, or even rocked, and if he doesnt go hard, he goes home. That's worlds greatest in my book.
But in all seriousness, I don't believe you, Pics or GTFO.
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It's a joke man!
Thats it, I'm turning on the CAPS LOCKS FURY!!!!
THIS IS THE INTERNET AND IT IS F'N SERIOUSNESS BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!1 JOKES ARE FOR COMEDIANS AND ROAD CROSSING CHICKENS!!!1 GGGGAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!! I DONT COME HERE TO BE LIED TO!!
Btw, the best boxer in the world is Vinny Pazienza.
No he is not, you are being ridiculous, this thread is ridiculous. Both you and this thread are ridiculous.