Die_Antwoord

How many divisions has Vitali Klitschko won a world championship in? The open division is all that matters. He doesnt starve his opponents nor does he force them to move up weight. He faces all comers, he's not a b1tch like pacquiao ducking martinez because he's too big. Vitali will fight anyone because he's a man, Pacquiao is a coward.

heavyweights that would 100% beat vitali- foreman 1973 ali 1967 heavyweights that could beat vitali- joe louis dempsey liston heavyweights that would be 50/50 vs vitali- lennox jack johnson marciano holmes heavyweights that would get knocked out by vitali tyson holyfield frasier patterson people 147 and under who could 100% beat peak pacquiao- no one people who might beat peak pacquiao- (50/50) SRR (60/40 in pac's advantage) SRL (70/30 in pac's advantage) mayweather (90/10 in pac's advantage) JMM has never beaten pac- even the first fight- the judge admitted a mistake that would have given a pac win Haha Foreman would beat Vitali? how? He is less skilled, he is weaker, he is dumb, he is insane, he is giving up 30 lbs of muscle, he has less stamina, less experience...what the fu&* does 1973 Foreman have on Vitali? Absolutely nothing. 1967 Ali couldnt withstand Henry Cooper's shots...Vitali would KO 1 Ali.

Joe wasn't shot..........he fought like a true champ that night. Respect his greatness Uhh Ali's own management said they chose Frazier for the 3rd fight because he was shot. And if you dont think getting abused in 2 rounds and suffering your first loss hurts you....Frazier won 3 fights after his first loss. 3. One he squeeked by, the other two he looked bad. So Ali made him look good. Guess what, Ali made part time boxer, full time police officer/vagrant Chuck Wepner look good. He made Young, and Shavers look good. PWill is shot because of one punch according to most on here. But Frazier wasnt? What big win did he have after Foreman destroyed him? When Frazier was prime he beat Ali. Ali beating him the2nd and 3rd fight was like Maidana beating Morales. Sure Morales put on a good show, but it wasnt the same as a prime Morales.

Louis "looked" weaker than most of his toughest opponents, yet he still KTFOd them. Hes possibly the most efficient, effective power puncher that ever lived. http://cdnimg.visualizeus.com/thumbs/b0/fe/biceps,carnera,giant,muscle,primo,carnera,sexy,vintage-b0fe442f2a0c616a81e5958fd6e66729_m.jpg Vitali and Primo are very similar, except Primo is stronger, has 32 more knockouts, and did it without the help of steroids. http://static.boxrec.com/wiki/thumb/3/35/F139576.jpeg/300px-F139576.jpeg Just out of curiosity how many of Primo Carnera's knockouts came from guys who were actually full time professional boxers? Ill be waiting for your response. Have to rig numbers like a fa88ot to even make an argument. He has more KO's than Vitali, holy sh1t, Joe Bugner has more KO's than Ali, so Joe Bugner was better right. Who cares how many fights they had when you can just pick numbers to try to make a point. I mean sure Carnera was knocked down 10 times in his savage beating loss to Max Baer the year before Joe Louis beat him, but who gives a sh1t about that right? I mean Vitali's never been knocked down in his career, but Primo Carnera had more knockouts so he must have been beter. Out of curiosity how many of Carnera's KO's came against guys who never fought under 200 in their career? A year after Joe Louis beat Carnera, a guy named Leroy Haynes who Ive never heard of knocked Carnera out in 3 rounds. BTW Leroy Haynes started his career weighing in the 170's...But yeah, keep making sh1t up, its what you do, we get it. Vitali retired, embarrassed, and figuratively castrated your hero lennox lewis. He raped Lennox Lewis's entire legacy that night in Staples Center and exposed him as a fraud and cut his career short. Imh sure you stay up late crying while thinking of all the fights Lewis planned to have before being run out of the sport by Vitali.

Robinson would fight more than 12 times a year. That wasnt the quote, you said it was 15 rounders once a month. Wlad fought 12 times in a year as well. Robinson fought on average ever 4.5 months when fighting championship fights. He also wasnt a heavyweight. And again post a year where he had more than 5 15 rounders, how about 4?

Didn't Larry Holmes and George Foreman both make a comback only to beat younger heavyweight prospects... A punch can slow anyone down, true story. Larry Holmes in the early 90's, "These guys today are much better than the guys from the 70's. They hit much harder."

Didn't Larry Holmes and George Foreman both make a comback only to beat younger heavyweight prospects... A punch can slow anyone down, true story. And get brutally stopped or beat by the Duke and Axel Shulz.... Also how many of these guys who didnt get punched out weighed 250 lbs? They would have been KO'ed by one shot. The guy who just won the NYC marathon paced a faster mile time than the world record at the time of that 11 minute video. I thought it was 45 rounds? Wait isnt this back when rounds ended on a knock down? As for more fights? Jack Dempsey, a man who I would have KO'ed personally in one or two punches and then taken his woman for my own, fought 8 real times past the age of 24. Vitali hadn't even started to focus on boxing at 24...8 times past 24. From july 1919 to September 1926...so over 7years, while champion, he fought 5 times...and people call Floyd inactive. Also, who are you going to believe, Marquez...a well conditioned professional boxer or Jab a well fattened man who lives in a box? I mean he says that modern training techniques dont matter...I mean look at all he's accomplished while scorning modern technology. I bet that Kenyan who just won the NYC marathon could box 500 rounds no problem. Also I think its funny that a 40 year old Vitali Klitschko who weighs 250 lbs threw more punches in any 3 rounds against Adamek than in that entire 11 minute video. When I was 13 years old I was breaking the early 20th century olympic records in swimming with a drag suit on in practice. What happened? Faster water today? Those guys in the video look like 2 morons who had no clue how to throw a powerful shot and wanted to dance around wrestling rather than boxing, i would have beat both and then taken their women, impregnated them, and then forced them to raise my child and not give a dime in child support.

The evidence doesn't support you. Guys used to fight 15 rounds once a month. So who's in better shape? I think that the good fighters are good fighters in any era. The fluctuation comes in the level of competition. Who fought 15 rounds once a month? And besides do you understand anything about things like kinesiology or training? If you had a fight every month you couldn't actually make gains or improvements in your conditioning. And the evidence completely supports me. At 13 years old I was a faster swimmer than anyone who ever lived prior to 1920. Did the properties of water change? Guess what our knowledge trained we learned how to train and how growth and gains come in RECOVERY not in training. I would have beaten Jack Johnson to death in the ring and exposed him for the b1tch he was. I would have then taken his woman and spilt my seed in her.

Joe Louis beat 3 fighters in his entire career who didnt start their career under 200 lbs. 3. Simon, Buddy Baer, and Primo Carnera...Simon was morbidly obese and coming off a loss both times...Baer was 26 well past the prime age back then and was suffering from gout, liver and heart disease, Carnera was a circus performer. Thats it. i would have beat Joe Louis to a pulp. I probably would have killed him in the ring. Taught him a lesson for stealing tax money.

i think i see some jizz on his lower lip nope clearly there is no jizz in the picture, must be some cum in your eye.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/image.php?u=156871&dateline=1318813156 show my picture to your son, probably the first example of a real man he's ever seen.

Yeah, which fighter was more dominant and impressive in their win. I mean granted Vitali was fighting a 2 division champ who was ranked number 3 in the division and Floyd was fighting someone who won a token and had a year ago quit in a fight because he didnt like to be hit, but try to throw that out, who was more dominant and impressive?

What a sh1t thread by this clark kent looking f@ggot I bet your son is real proud of his dad. Thousands of posts on a boxing website...go spend time with your kid dude, stop being a sh!t father.

How has Vitali beat better guys? Adamek is a blown up LHW natural cruiser. He's slow, and has bad footwork. He never beaten anyone worth a hit at HW, and is just another **** fighter in a shit division. That's one of if not vitali's best wins at HW. Thats how shitty the HW division is. Youre only as good as your last fight and Adamek is a lot better than Barker and Vitali taxed him like he was nothing. Sergio got bloodied by a bum. Oh and to further own you b1tches, sergio also lost to the two best fighters on his resume... and he has a draw with Cintron... and most people think bloated featherweights mayweather and/or pacquiao would beat him. If you have him ranked higher p4p than Vitali you know sh1t about boxing. He beat a shot Pwill after he lost to him and he beat a drug addled kelly pavlick, dudes a joke.

So if Wlad fights and beat mormeck while chambers beats thompson, chambers is actually ranked highed than wlad? Sweet logic. If Wlad doesnt completely dominate Mormeck yes. Its more than just who you beat, see, I watch fights, unlike you. I am a boxing genius, you are a boxing b1tch. I know what im talking about and you know sh1t. Its simple arithmetic dude. I>you in every fukking way imaginable.

If Paulie had better hands he would destroy Pacquiao. He's one of the p4p greatest of all times if he had better hands.

Want to talk about Hilarious size differences, what about Ali fighting 180 lbs Bob Foster....Now thats hilarious. If Haye was fighting in the 70's theyd call him "Big" David Haye. People need to make their minds up with the Klitschko hate...they claim on these blown up cruisers like Ali would beat them...and then claim that there should be a super heavyweight division because theyre too big. Make your damn minds up.

Hmmm? Lewis-Vitali was a legitimate TKO. The only thing disappointing was the anti-climactic ending. And yet still a fantastic heavyweight fight. How was it legitimate, it was stopped on an injury cause by a clear foul...thats not a tko dude. Theres a reason that lewis retired in fear and cowardice and all true boxing fans view him as trash and a coward.

I will be training in columbus at the rpac from 8pm-11pm monday through thursday for the next 12 weeks. That is where I will be at. Anyone can step up. I will have gear there for anyone.

he's like any and every other foreigner. they don't like america but love making american money. Vitali loves America enough that he moved here and made sure his kids are citizens

Holding and hitting is the exact same penalty in boxing as using your shoulder to push a guy off of you. I forgot...Vitali is white so it doesnt count when he's fouled causing injury, but Hopkins...thats criminal. Dawson and Lewis both used MMA tactics.

you suck at comedy. get off the stage good one...

Hopkins suffered an injury and couldn't continue, Vitali quit before Lewis was going to knock-him-out. Cannot see why they are being compared. Wait...Vitali quit? Huh? You mean when he ran into the center of the ring after the corrupt doctor called the fight? You can't hold and hit. Thats the rules in boxing. The ref said break, and teh coward Lewis took another shot.

Oh come on dude you can't be serious. Have you ever boxed? nope, thought so. You can't hold and hit, if you want to be a fan of MMA there is ufc.com for you. This is boxing. Dawson and Lewis clearly don't understand the rules. Again a Staples Center farce "tko".

You are a total muppet. You must have never boxed either, otherwise you might understand the difference between holding and hitting and working the free hand. You are encouraged to work the free hand in boxing. Fighters frequently exchange shots to the side of the head when in a clinch. You're not allowed to grab a fighter by the head with 1 hand then hit the head with the other. That is holding and hitting, and if you weren't such a retard you might know this. Your family members will die for real dude. Lennox grabbed Vitali behind the head with his left and hit him with the right. Did you even watch th fight you fukkin retard?

You do know it was Vitali who started clinching right? I remember the cut opened up at the beginning of the 3rd round. Lewis hit Vitali with a right hand and Vitali was clearly stunned and tried to clinch. Only he didn't clinch properly and Lewis right hand was free. So Lewis used his right hand and opened up a cut. If anything Vitali should've been DQ'd because he clinched every single time he was hit with a clean punch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anA8763ZZsc&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL56DE64672BF77D78 Youre a fukkin retard, watch Lewis grab Vitali behind the head and hit him to cause the cut. Its right there in the video you fa88ot.

I think what he's referring to is the KD by Henry Cooper, which it's rumoured that the bell saved Ali who otherwise wouldn't have been able to get up in time. Also he is supposed to have gained time by his corner deliberately enlarging a small ear in the glove. Well, I saw the fight on TV at the time, and also have seen it on video several times since. In my opinion he could have beaten the count, although he might have been KD again, or even KO'd. The bell ended that speculation. As for the torn glove gaining him much extra time, well....unless they faked the film and the later videos, there was only a delay of a few seconds. So it's all pure speculation. Ali showed he had a very good chin, all through his career. Ali used illegal smelling salts in that fight. hes a cheater and a scumbag. Not to mention all of his controversial decisions, 2 against Norton, Shavers, Young, Jones etc... And people saying Ali wouldnt have demanded steroid testing? Why didnt he give Foreman a rematch? Why did he force Foreman to fight outdoors in the middle of a jungle? The guy did tons of trash in his career. Imagine Floyd giving a fight to a 6-0-1 fighter. How brave is it to hang on the ropes an entire fight? HOw about when he gave shots to evangelista and wepner...what a freaking joke Ali was. Do not compare him to Floyd.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/boxing/8774850/David-Haye-I-will-shelve-my-retirement-plans.html here is the source.

Ali was knocked unconscious and forced to cheat against guys 3 weight classes below him. Ali also lost 5 times and Floyd has never lost. Never...Ever...disrespect Floyd by comparing him to that piece of human refuse muhammad ali.

i see it as he possibly can't miss, surely hit more than miss wlad avoided them with footspeed coupled with the reach but hows does vit stop it? or do you not care and think he'll eat'em up like skittles? Uhh Vitali is harder to hit than Wlad and he wont try to hold Haye coming in, he'll step back and counter.