Yeah he has fought. He won the Adirondack Golden Gloves LWW Championship in 1976. Say what you want about Atlas, but he knows boxing and has the balls to speak his mind on national tv.
http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Teddy_Atlas
These internet cowards amuse me. Calling someone like Atlas a fraud in the sport..lol
You dont' have to be a pro fighter to be something in boxing. Manny Steward I think had but a few amateur fights but was one of the greatest trainers ever. Put int he time then run your mouths.
He still bangs harder than some kids in the gym. :boxing:
Dude, those shots look hard...lol
There are some men that are born on this planet that are just bad asses, Chavez is one of those men.
It may be an "exhibition", but I feel bad for his opponent. Chavez is going to go balls to the wall man, I'm telling you.
This robbery aside, Teddy's a clown.
I'd rather put on some music or anything else than listen to him drone on.
A clown that has trained world champs, and has forgotten more about boxing than you will ever learn. Not to mention he will beat your ass and not think twice about it.
What I found funny was Teddy Atlas had a black eye as well. LOL wtf was he doing with a black eye, and it made him look crazier when he was going in.
I love Hopkins and he's one of my favorite fighters ever but he's dead wrong here.
Mayweather said the same thing a few years back, that the reason he isn't bigger world wide is because he's black. That made no sense considering the greatest sports stars in the history of the planet are black. Pele' and Ali.
The real reason that Hopkins isn't getting the attention he deserves, is because boxing is a fringe sport. Sorry, but it's true. Nobody outside of the hardcore fan cares about boxing anymore, let alone understands it.
Boxing used to be front and center in the eyes of the world, now it's a back page sport that gets more criticism for it's corruption and bad judges than anything else.
Boxing isn't going anywhere, but I don't think it will ever reach the glory it had in the 30's-80's. It's not because Hopkins is black, it's because people just don't care.
Man am I sick of hearing this guys name on the lips of everyone from 160 to 175. I have to admit for a while I was impressed with how much he improved from the start of his career, but that's about it. The guy was coming in MASSIVE comparted to his MW opposition, got gifted a belt, decided to stop training and making weight. The only thing that doesn't bother me is the pot stuff....if a boxer wants to smoke pot who cares, it's NOT a PED.
Anyway generic opening rant over and on to the fact that he better get paid for his next fight because the guys that are mentioning his name would mangle the kid in the ring. I think his "granite chin" had a lot to do with being a couple of divisions above his opponent on fight night.
I mean lets put this into perspective-he went life and death, or 1-1, with Brian fricken Vera. Triangle theories don't generally work in boxing but come on, Vera was handled by Rosado(whom I respect, but still) It's true styles make fights, but in this triangle theory I'm basing it more on talent and maybe power. Does anyone really think Froch or GGG and the rest wouldn't kill Rosado(GGG did with the flu) and Vera?
I don't even get why Arum would be trying to hang on to this kid, his career is going to implode real soon. Well maybe Al can get him on the Garcia diet and prolong it for a bit, but next big fight he gets starched.
It's called money, and you clearly don't understand the way the business of boxing works.
Chavez is a money earner, that makes him relevant.
Geale didn't quit! Watch him leave the ring then walk the isle and watch his legs and his overall movement. He got rocked and remained dazed from stating "no more" until......................I don't know but he was not in control of himself and did the right thing for himself & family and basically "retired"!
His eyes were glazed over and kept looking downward! When a fighter can't maintain a straight ahead focused look their rocked.
Great ref ( Mikie Ortega) yeah yeah.....................my friends son, knew him when he was a little boy did a great job. He kept an eye right on Geale's face and read his expressions properly. The eyes tell you everything in boxing.
Ray.
Well like I said, I don't like to call any boxer a quitter so I was hesitant to say that word. I will say he got up really fast, and usually when a guy is that hurt, they don't get up that easy.
Either way, I can't fault him and when you look at the fight he didn't take that much damage really. It was just a few huge shots that ended his night.
GGG has so much experience, that I think he's ready for the elite in that division. Unfortunately for Cotto, he owns one of the belts at 160, so a match up with GGG might be inevitable unless he moves back down to face Canelo which is what I think he should do.
Ward vs GGG is THE fight to make.
Not that I disagree with anything, but the bolded part is so true.
He's one of the best, if not the best, fighter around today at cutting off the ring. It's almost scary how much confidence he has in his ability. Have you even seen someone take a flush (and a solid) right hand to the jaw and in the same motion knock the other guy out? It is really incredible. We are watching something special with him. But I feel he should stay at MW.
Good observation, he was hit flush, and still had the power to KO Geale. That's pretty amazing.
Roach has been the best trainer for the past several years. Garcia at no.2, and nobody else is close to these two.
Wrong, there's been no more consistent trainer in the game of boxing in the last 20 years than Nacho.
Not only has he brought up countless world champs up from scratch, but his influence in his style is easy to see in his fighters and fighters that train with him.
Overall Saturday was utterly disappointing. As excited as I was to see Jennings/Perez, thats how much I was disappointed in that fight. Didnt expect anything more from the Golovkin fight. Friday was an incredible night of boxing, Saturday was terrible. HBO really should consider expanding these 1 and 2 fight cards.
On a side note as well, Max Kellerman is the most annoying person in the sport. I wish he would just shut the fuk up.
I only caught the last few rounds of Jennings/Perez, and Perez was fighting like a drunk. Ridiculous.
Golovkin is the man. We all know he's the best MW in the world. I was confident he'd make easy work of Geale, but in the 3rd? Damn.
Perez looked badly out of shape to be honest. His corner was asking him to do all kinds of stuff and he didn't change anything. He's just fat and out of shape to be honest.
GGG is the scariest man in boxing. 3 rounds was a shocker, and I never call any boxer a quitter but I think Geale didn't want to continue. He felt those shots and just decided that's not what he wanted in his life.
Garcia. Not debatable. When you can take a brawler like Maidana who Devon Alexander thoroughly dominated and give him the tools to make the so-called best fighter in the world so utterly average, you bad.
You are assuming that Garcia is the only one capable of doing that. Imagine Maidana with someone like Nacho, or Abel who could show him the very same things, even more technical.
This is the problem with rating trainers, you are as good as your current fighters. There was a time not to long ago when Roach was being called overrated, now he's once again one of the best in the game.
Reality is, Roach has always been a great trainer, it's just that Pac lost a few and therefore people were down on him.
Please give your opinion on that excellent Roy Jones Jr. fight this weekend.
I didn't watch it man, I don't know if I can bring myself to watch that. It was like watching Chavez Sr late in his career, or Duran. It's just not the way I want to remember Roy.
Good post! Trainers are only as good as their fighters. The "you're only as good as you're last fight" line gets applied to trainers too. Sometimes unfairly. Shields, nacho, Richardson, roach & Diaz are all good trainers. Lol at chepo reynoso!
You also can't laigh at Reynoso. I don't know much about him, but Canelo is a well schooled boxer. So I don't know how good or how not so good he is.
I disagree with Kovalev looking for one big shot all the time.
he actually does the opposite of that. He doesn't load up on any of his punches and look for one big KO. He just hits so damn hard his opponents can't do anything about it.
he throws fluid combos and never loads up on any single shot
Well you may be right or may not be because we haven't seen him in a boxing match with someone who can make him work.
If you watch Kovalev he stalks his opponents and is looking for one big shot. Now, he leaps in a little and reaches at times which I think B Hop can and will take advantage of.
The question will be can B Hop avoid getting hit with a huge shot all night long, I don't know.
I disagree. I didn't see Vargas win more than 6 rounds.
completely disagree with you on vargas. he was getting his ass handed to him later on and lost that fight.
barring gift decisions, i don't believe he'll be a threat to any top shelf opponent at 140 and 147. he's barely eeking out decisions against sub-par competition, ffs. it's laughable that he is even a title holder.
vargas has little defense to speak of. he gets hit way too often and backs up in straight lines immediately into the ropes when he's caught. any decent puncher at 140/147 will fold this guy.
I thought it was a back and forth fight, oddly enough the HBO guys had it exactly as I had (I know that doesn't mean anything).
Maybe I have to take another look at the fight. I thought Vargas was landing the better shots, and the Russian was more active. I don't think it wasn't a close fight either way.
Obviously the scores were ridiculous. Makes you sad for boxing to be honest, when are we going to see this type of thing end?
Vargas has looked better in previous fights though, and you are right, he didn't show much defense against the Russian but he's looked much better in the past. I think maybe it's his trainers fault for trying to make him "sit down" on his punches more. They are looking to get KO's and that will leave you more vulnerable. Vargas is a boxer, it's what he is and I don't think that's going to change any time soon.
It's a shame Vargas has so many gifts to make fans hate him, because I don't think he's too bad. There's a lot to improve on, but he's solid. Those scorecards were a disgrace. No need to wonder if Novikov ever had a chance, he clearly didn't. This was a perfect example of a fight where either guy could have won, but it was still a robbery.
Kovalev has a lot of flaws, but man is he a dangerous fighter. That power seems impossible, so few fighters can even go 3 rounds with him. He might be my favorite fighter to watch in the sport despite those short fights, because he's the purest form of knock out or get knocked out that exists right now. He's an incredible offensive machine.
I'm putting most the blame on Chaves for what happened, and while the ref was crap I'm glad Chaves was disqualified. He did fight dirty from the beginning, and while Rios was reckless with his head Chaves was completely exaggerating it, trying to draw ref interference. Screw him, especially for that DDT. That could have, and may have, hurt Rios.
As far as the bolded, I'm glad you pointed that out because it's a tactic used by old time fighters. To keep your chin straight in the air to show or exaggerate that the opponent is using his head. Chaves was clearly doing that and I noticed it as well.
The funny part was in the end when Chaves looked like "What did I do"..hahaha he knew what he did but Draculich could have controlled this fight much better than what he did.
Either way, I thought Rios looked terrible.
Not sure what people "think" their seeing but Chaves was lacing and raking the eyes every time he got his gloves underneath. He waited till the ref got in close then as they separated he raked!
If anyone here thinks he didn't deserve to be DQ's you don't know the very basic rules this DQ blatantly showed. He did it on purpose and the "throw down" was definitely on purpose too.
As I said before Chaves could have won on his own skill level but he choice to be a punk and he got what punk azz *****es get. He's lucky he didn't get his azz whipped in the back room. If I where in Rios's corner that ***** is going to the ER! I hate **** like two handed holding and then throwing in some **** on the breaks. That doesn't play well with me! Ray.
Have to agree with you Ray and not only that, the people here who are saying "thumbless glove" don't know what they are talking about.
Gloves have thumbs obviously, they are just attached, not like the old days where they were unattached. You can still get a thumb in the eye, as I have a few times in sparring.
It's very painful and can cause serious damage. Chaves was clearly trying to get his glove in Rios' eye, that with the extensive holding IMO deserved the DQ once I took a second look at the fight.
Say what you want about Rios, but the man comes to fight. He was hit low by Peterson repeatedly and never complained once. He's not one to BS and pu55yfoot around.
Chaves lost my respect.
Williams didn't respect campillo IMO. He was talking about kovalev and fighting for a title and then comparing how he beat other guys better than other title holders. We'll see how he recovers from this
Well I tend not to look too much into talk before a fight because you really don't know what you are getting into until you are in the ring. Also, very few fighters over look an opponent.
I think Williams was doing good early, but he's used to hitting guys and them folding. When Campillo didn't do that, he almost looked shocked like "what are you still doing here?"
I hope he does recover because he has a lot of talent. He just ran into a tough vet who's been there and done that.
I agree with you assessment that Rios is "done as an elite fighter." To be honest, I don't know where Rios goes from here in his career. He's fun to watch, has a good inside game but his defense sucks and he fights with reckless abandonment. He just takes so many clean shots to the head, it bothers me to know that he's gonna probably end up brain damaged. You just can't sustain that kind of punishment in every fight.
Very worrisome no doubt. He was never a great defensive fighter before, but he moved his head much more in the past. Like I said too, he looked out of shape, really soft in the midsection.
Kovalev actually throws combinations, I think those single shots are designed to create openings but he's so powerful that he drops his opponents with them.
Well that's kind of my point. I was speaking more so in the context of the Bernard fight and how he will approach it. I don't think of Kovalev as a boxer, now that doesn't mean he can't box.
He obviously looks to hurt his opponent, or land the big shot to change what the opponent does. Now, how is that going to affect what he does vs Hopkins and vice versa.
I do see him as being very up right, and leans in and reaches a bit. You see that in most big punchers because they have so much confidence in their power.
We will see, props to Hopkins for taking this fight. Many thought he would never take it and it was Stevenson that decided he wanted no part of Kovalev.
Caparello popped Kovalev with a CLEAN A$$ SHOT to the side of the noggin, LMfAO@ calling it a trip. Sure.
Anyways, being the bum that we all knew he was, Caparello couldn't do sh1t after he landed that nice shot on the side of Kovalev's dome piece.
I predicted Kovalev by KO/TKO in the 3rd round, it just happened a bit sooner, and good thing it did. It's not a good look being dropped by bums like Stevenson and Kovalev have been, in their last performances.
He clearly stepped on his foot causing the knock down.
I had never seen a fighter do that (hold his head high, to give the impression of a headbutt), but I didn't like it. What pissed me off the most was that he would pretend like he was the victim, leaving his mouth open to indicate disbelief. Maybe I am being harsh, but I never want to see this guy fight again. I was rooting for him after the Thurman fight, but I think his tactics weren't just dirty but devoid of honor.
Well I wouldn't go that far, but he did act innocent when he clearly was doing his part. All in all hugely disappointing fight considering the styles of the tww fighters.
Just by watching Rios in the Chaves fight, he never looked hurt not one time. Against Pac he wasn't necessarily hurt, but you can see he was stunned a few times from the speed of the shots.
I believe Rios, he is a stand up guy and not one to BS. I can't remember watching a fighter get hit low MULTIPLE times and not milk it. He was hit that way by Peterson and didn't want to do what 99% of all boxers do.
Since that moment he's gotten my respect. All you computer tough guys talk sh1t about Rios, but the man is a warrior and just wants to fight. I will pay to see him every time.
I would love to have seen the Thrilla in Manilla, the Rumble in the Jungle and most of all, the fight between Julio Cesar Chaves and Greg Hougen in Mexico City.
It was in Aztec stadium and there was over 100,000 people present. Must have been an amazing atmosphere.
That was in response to your post claiming that blacks would rather sell drugs than get less than stellar jobs. It goes both ways. I know you have some animosity built up for what Floyd does to your guys on their own holidays but you gotta drop it man. You win some you lose some.
I have zero animosity towards Floyd because I'm not a racist like you. Does to "my guys" ? Wow, you are so transparent
If you aren't racist why did you conclude that blacks would rather sell drugs and indulge in illegal activity rather than getting jobs? That seems pretty racist to me. Learn to contain your anger, it'll help you in real life where you identity isn't hidden.
My anger? What anger, what are you talking about? Because it touches a nerve that there is a severe problem in the black community, doens't mean it comes from anger.
Sorry but criticism comes from wanting to see things get better and many times it's not politically correct. Unlike you that attacked Mexicans out of hatred, and had no point relevant to our conversation.
Here's some quotes from Fredrick Douglas (a black man) one of my favorite and most influential men in history.
"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence."
"A true patriot is a lover of his country who rebukes and does not excuse its sins."
Criticism comes from wanting things to be better.
Bet you think that stuff is funny huh? Immature.
You found it funny when you said Mexicans don't have real jobs and just push ice cream trucks around.
Oh, what about the face first style that never works? Seemed to work hu?
Two words for you, Porky Medina....lol
He can retire right now if he wants, no big deal. Probably wants to accumulate enough money to live comfortably for the future. Nothing wrong with that, but he doesn't seem to have that desire and excitement for the sport.
In another video, he said that he never liked boxing, and still doesn't. He said he was pushed into it by his father and brother.
I think if he faces any adversity in the ring, he will quit. Just my opinion.