What's worse about Teofimo Lopez' performance against Claggett is that he was a handpicked opponent and yet Lopez still struggled to get him out of there. In addition, Steve Cleggett is 35 years old and shopworn fighter, with approximately 50 professional fights too. That's old for a fighter. My question is where did "The Takeover's" punching power go? I only ask because it's been missing ever since he defeated Loma at 135.
What's worse about Teofimo Lopez' performance against Claggett is that he was a handpicked opponent and yet Lopez still struggled to get him out of there. In addition, Steve Cleggett is 35 years old and a shopworn fighter, with approximately 50 professional fights too. That's old for a fighter. My question is where did "The Takeover's" punching power go? I only ask because it's been missing ever since he defeated Loma at 135.
There is no denying Tank is one of the top lightweights of the world right now.
How would he have faired against Lightweights from other eras.
Manny Pacquiao at 135lbs
JMM at 135 lbs
Jose Luis Castillo at 135lbs
Diego Corrales at 135lbs
I genuinely think he loses to all four, but what do you guys think?Pac and JMM would spark him out and he defeats Castillo and Corrales.
:lol1: @ some of these posters claiming Haney is weak, gay, ect for suing Garcia. He fought the guy six times in the amateurs, so he very likely has a feel for his power. Now, he fights him in the pros a few years later, and Garcia has monster power that he didn't have before. And the reason for that great increase in power? Ostarine. I don't know about you guys, but I've seen guys on gear in the gym, and the increase in strength over someone who is clean is phenomenal. Boxing is a dangerous sport as it is, without enhancements. The bitch here is not Haney, but rather, the insecure, emo, bitch ass mofo Garcia, who wasn't man enough to face his opponent without pumping himself up with a banned size and strength enhancer.
Bingo! That was just beautiful! I couldn't have said it better myself! Excellent post!
Not sure why people were picking Teo to win by KO, especially against a smothering pressure fighter with a great chin. That clown wouldn't last a single round against the guy he's calling a can.
It’s largely coming from the fact that many boxing fans and experts alike have touted Teo as a back foot counter punching fighter. Rumor has it that he struggles with boxers and shines against front foot pressure fighters. Well tonight he had the perfect opponent in front of him and yet he was still not at his best.
Maybe do some homework
Haney is already on record begging for rematch
Or he can also go fight his mandatory for the whooping sum-of 1.6 million
He refused and dropped the belt realizing that was going to be his third L
Just like Haney , your both full of chit
YDKSAB
LOL, Oh! It’s you again. You really love you some Ryan Garcia dont’cha? Well both Shakur Stevenson, Devin Haney and even Teofimo Lopez all said that Ryan should be banned for life. What kind of example are you setting for today’s youth? That it is alright to lie, cheat and break the rules. Just so long as you win?
Nah, Fury! You lost a very close and competitive fight. Usyk nearly KOd you. He had you out on your feet. You are now looking old my boy! You are even beginning to fight like it!
Respectfully, Ryan didn’t cheat ‘on the field’. He used the PEDs outside of the field, getting caught after the fact.
The thing here is the long term impact a PED beating can have on a pro boxer. Reduced purses, lowered ranking, inability to get big fights, etc.
From an in ring standpoint, yes Haney should rematch him, if for no other reason than to show he can defend against the hooks Ryan threw. Ryan will surely be PED free in that fight. No excuses.
But yeah, you have to seek damages for the other things because pros differentiate between the sport and the business of the sport.
Spot on and well said! Devin has lost millions of dollars in damages due to that fight he had with Ryan Garcia. He really should sue now since he has been totally validated and substantiated. Also, especially in light of the fact that Ryan has since openly confessed, admitted, pleaded guilty to cheating and for taking Ostarine by acknowledging that the cross-contamination excuse was all a complete fabrication and a lie. As part of his original plea deal with the NYSAC in order for him to help keep his boxing license and stay out of jail.
Team Hanky should have moved on and forgot the whole debacle entirely. Fans would have been more sympathetic if they just kept quiet as Ryin Garcia's negative press continues to grind.
Thing is even when Ryin showed up overweight Hanky was still the overwhelming favorite. Roy Jones, Bradley, Porter and many many others didn't change their prediction one bit.
And Hanky didn't have to fight Ryin and fought Barbosa, instead. He took the money and he was certain he would KO Ryin. Now Hanky's cryin'.Team Hankey was right all along but you Ryan Garcia fans were just wrong. It just so happens that Team Garcia has validated Devin Haney’s claim by admitting, confessing, acknowledging and pleading guilty before the NYSAC for Ostarine use and lying about the cross contamination theory. Team Hankey forced Ryan to come clean about his PED use, doping, roiding and drug use.
So me posting about sympathetic suggestion to Haney makes me a Garcia fan. I see. I couldn't care less about teenage idols. But be honest do you believe Haney lost because of some tiny itty bitty substance in Garcia's body? Seriously. Tiny, itty bitty substances my foot. The fact is Ryan had anywhere from 35 to 60 times more than the average trace amounts of Ostarine in his body. The question is? Why was it in his system in the first place? Since it has been scientifically proven that the substance has no medical benefits or use whatsoever. Besides, Ryan has already come clean to the NYSAC by admitting, confessing and pleading guilty to using Ostarine to cheat anyhow and that the cross contamination excuse was a lie. So I don’t understand your point. The fact that he popped dirty while he was detoxing and cycling off doesn’t mean anything. It was still illegal and in his system. When the substance isn’t legally manufactured or distributed worldwide on the open market anywhere. Which means Garcia got that drug off the black market. Unlike Ryan Garcia’s fangirls. The NYSAC, myself and others are able to detect BS when we sense it.
https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...ua-dubois-bout
What an absolute joke.
The IBF should simply cease to exist.
They are breaking up the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world to give their belt to the winner of a fight between a guy Usyk knocked out with a jab and a guy Usyk beat twice by 12 round decision.
The IBF has absolutely no justification to continue to exist. They have absolutely failed the boxing public.
As much I disagree with the IBF's decision. I can't say that I blame them. I think that It is a blatant disregard and disrespect to the sanctioning body's rule of conduct and bylaws. When promoters subjectively and unilaterally add rematch clauses to their undisputed bouts without permission or ahead of the sanctioning body's mandatory challengers. Perhaps and maybe in the future, they just might ask for permission the next time before drafting them. They make themselves and the fighters they represent look like fools when they do that.
is this the most d!ckless move in combat sport history? LMFAO You beat a dude into suing you. imagine that chit. LOL That's the biggest L I've ever seen. Ryan the dark triad bad boy owning this beta cuck snitch by beating his azz and living in his head rent free. Now he's paying money to get a joo lawyer. LMFAO FECKIN HELL
He's gonna be a joke for the rest of his life. it's over for him
Actually maybe Haney could get new fans from the LGB TQ community.He was both blindsided and cheated by Ryan Garcia. So what the Hell did you all expect? That foul and dirty play cost him millions of dollars in lost purses and revenue. Also, not to mention his career, health and life. So what better time to sue Ryan Garcia than now? Since I have heard there is both a transcript and an audio version of Ryan Garcia's testimony to the NYSAC admitting, confessing and pleading his guilt for the use of the illegal drug Ostarine. Also, I heard that Ryan pissed dirty for Ostarine a fifth time too. This time it was from the New York State Athletic Commission itself once they decided to do a post fight urinalysis on him.
We were dreaming when we saw Garcia destroy him. It never happened. Well y'all must have been dreaming then because you are right. None of that happened. It was certainly not the fight that I recall. The fight that I can recall was a hotly contested, close and competitive fight. Which according to my unofficial scorecard had Ryan Garcia winning by just a single point 113-112 due to the three knockdowns. However, in total rounds. I had Haney winning 7-5.
We were dreaming when we saw Garcia destroy him. It never happened. Well y'all must have been dreaming then because that never happened. It was certainly not the fight that I recall. The fight that I can recall was a hotly contested, close and competitive fight. Which according to my unofficial scorecard had Ryan Garcia winning by just a single point 113-112 due to the three knockdowns. However, in total rounds. I had Haney winning 7-5.
https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...ua-dubois-bout
What an absolute joke.
The IBF should simply cease to exist.
They are breaking up the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world to give their belt to the winner of a fight between a guy Usyk knocked out with a jab and a guy Usyk beat twice by 12 round decision.
The IBF has absolutely no justification to continue to exist. They have absolutely failed the boxing public.
As much I disagree with the IBF's decision. I can't say that I blame them. I think that It is not only rude but both arrogant and disrespectful to the sanctioning body's rule of conduct and bylaws. When promoters subjectively and unilaterally add rematch clauses to their undisputed bouts without so much as notifying the sanctioning body's ruling is just plain stupid and offensive. Perhaps and maybe in the future. These promoters just might ask for permission in advance before drafting a rematch clause in an undisputed fight. They make themselves and the fighters they represent look like fools each and every time they opt for one.
So, we are just supposed to forget that King Ry kicked his ass? Was it all a Dream? Haney lost, so when we next hear him get announced as unbeaten, we know it ain't true.
Opinions? No matter what you think of King Ry, do you still see Haney as an unbeaten fighter? Nash out
So it's cool to celebrate dopers and drug cheats now even if they are our own favorite fighters? Oh Lord! What has become of this world? There's seems to be no more integrity, sanity or humanity left in it
In their third fight at Yankee stadium. Ali got off to a very slow start. He stood flat-footed by staying off the ropes for most of the fight with his legs standing very far apart. As he attempted to KO Norton in the opening rounds but failed in doing so and after 9 rounds had been competed. Ali found himself trailing badly on two of the official judges scorecards 7-2 and 6-3-1 on the referee’s Arthur Mercante Sr’s scorecard. Ali swept the next six rounds on all three of the official scorecards including Mercante Sr’s in order to retain his heavyweight crown. The last round in which Ali won was the decisive round. Whoever had won that round would have won the fight. It was a very close and controversial fight in which most ringside boxing observers at the time thought that Ken Norton had deserved and done enough to win.
Beyond the no-contest ruling, Garcia was additionally ordered to return his guaranteed purse money of $1.2 million to Oscar De La Hoya’s Golden Boy Promotions while paying the maximum $10,000 fine to the commission and, lastly, enduring an indefinite suspension that can end April 20, 2025, if he passes all of the random drug testing that’s coming his way from a World Anti-Doping Agency-accredited lab in Salt Lake City.Facts!!! Ryan can bounce back even stronger than before. If he can just focus, relax and remove all the enablers, hanger ons, leeches and toxins from his circle. The kid just needs to concentrate and contemplate solely on the more important things in life.
Let’s not forget about Ken Norton’s cross-arm guard defense. Which was also a variation of the Philly Shell/ Shoulder roll defense which always gave Ali fits.
Sorry but I read the actual opposite ; they both were paid they’re guarantees and what they are complaining about is the rest of money from ppv and I’m guessing the gate
If I’m not mistaken there’s an article where Haney clearly stated he’s only been paid his guaranteed money
Cool!
Haney made the exact same claim though. No reason his purse should be held up just because the other guy cheated.
Well I agree with you but like Oscar. Haney was in the know about how the guaranteed purses were being held up pending the NYSAC investigation of Ryan Garcia failed PED tests and scandal. While Oscar knew about the investigation and yet he deliberately failed to inform his client Ryan Garcia about it. No wonder De La Hoya was so mum over these past several weeks regarding Ryan Garcia’s alleged drug cheating scandal.
Yup no answer as I thought
Very predictable and transparent
Alt started in June to come and thrash one guy but not the others
Smfh
You seem very frustrated sir when I haven't done anything to you. I don't know you. How can you say that I am thrashing one guy when this is the biggest headline in boxing? They are talking about this story everywhere. Have you not read what the WBC and its President Mauricio Sulaiman have said about Devin Haney? He said "What happened to (Haney) in New York is one of the greatest injustices I’ve seen in boxing. Meeting a fighter who did not make weight, who played mind games and had performance-enhancing drugs in his system, Haney still fought like a warrior.
“He got knocked down three times, and while many others would’ve stayed on the canvas, he got up every time.
“I respect Devin Haney after that fight more than ever and will fully support any decision he makes.” Now I ask you where was Mauricio Sulaiman's enthusiasm for all other guys who get caught every second week? However, he has a great interest here now doesn't he? So he must be thrashing one guy and not the others also. Am I right or wrong?
So the answer is yes. I see. It had nothing to do with Haney's fragile chin and clumsy style and Garcia's well-known left-hook. It had everything to do with ostarine. What a huge joke. You made your point.No, Haney had no reason to believe that he would be cheated, sidetracked and done dirty by an opponent who he once considered a friend and is also a drug cheat. What you are spewing now is utterly gibberish. The real question you should be asking yourself is why did Ryan feel the need to dope, juice, roid and hop himself up on performance enhancing drugs to begin with in order to defeat Devin? Was Haney that dangerous of an opponent to him to cheat? No you all are wrong here. There is only one coward here that I can see and his name is not Devin Haney but none other than Ryan Garcia. I am sorry but drug cheats receive very little to no sympathy from me. Ryan knew the rules and he deliberately broke them. So, I don't feel sorry for him. This was a self-inflicted wound that could have easily been avoided.
In this style match-up, the swarmer's punch resistance is an important part of the equation. Teofimo has never landed this many punches before, and he still can't put Claggett away. I think it's safe to say that Teo's power is not the same @140, but Claggett took a decent shot too.
Bingo! Nice post!
If the rematch happens at 147, Haney and a lot of other people are going to have to be placed on suicide watch because he’s going to lose again, and next time it will by stoppage.
Both are cheaters. The better cheater won.So is that your new claim? That H20 (Water) is a performance enhancer now? Really? That’s some very strange news to me. Don’t waste your time. Haney is never rematching this drug cheating loser and who could blame him?