There is no denying Tank is one of the top lightweights of the world right now.
How would he have faired against Lightweights from other eras.
Manny Pacquiao at 135lbs
JMM at 135 lbs
Jose Luis Castillo at 135lbs
Diego Corrales at 135lbs
I genuinely think he loses to all four, but what do you guys think?
Ok. Insider info. Nice.
I can’t dispute any of this. Just making the point that beating Morales after he beat Manny didn’t get Raheem a fight but Diaz beating 3 loss in a row Morales, 2 in a row to Manny, got him that fight.
Diaz got it because he was ranked #2 and was the WBC Champion.
Pretty much the same reason Ortiz for a fight with Floyd.
It's fair game.
Pacquiao let a lot of guys off the hook. Algieri would the most obvious example.
Marquez had the better career no doubt but as I said in a fantasy matchup, I’d side with Tank, I just think he clips him at some point.
He will get clip, keeping him down is the problem, and Tank would have to stand a return fire like he has only seen on tv.
Ok. Insider info. Nice.
I can’t dispute any of this. Just making the point that beating Morales after he beat Manny didn’t get Raheem a fight but Diaz beating 3 loss in a row Morales, 2 in a row to Manny, got him that fight.
having the WBC title is what got David Diaz the fight, plain and simple. Manny was collecting titles (and paydays) at that point. Raheem brought neither a title nor a payday to the dance.
Even though David Diaz was a weak challenger, there was no real reason for manny to stay at 135 after that fight. I know, because I was in the middle of those conversations. Nate had already beaten Juan Diaz for the unified titles, so after Manny beat David for the WBC title, Don King set up a meeting with Bob Arum to try and make Manny vs Nate for undisputed. The talks didnt really progress too far, as we found out that they were also talking to Oscar. They ended up making manny-oscar, and who can blame them. Right after manny-oscar, Nate missed weight for the Funeka fight, and all the titles got separated. Manny fought Hatton at 140, and never went back to 135
Ok. Insider info. Nice.
I can’t dispute any of this. Just making the point that beating Morales after he beat Manny didn’t get Raheem a fight but Diaz beating 3 loss in a row Morales, 2 in a row to Manny, got him that fight.
Never out, and when pacquio hurt anyone he will finish the job, not with Marquez, so I like his chances, too bad we will never get to see it. Below is a list of his most notable opponents, I don't see anyone similar on tank list, maybe pitbull.
Freddie Norwood
Manny Pacquio(4)
Marco A. barrera
Orlando Salido
Chris John
Rocky Juarez
Joel Casamayor
Juan Diaz (twice)
Bradley
Kasidis
Mayweather
Pacquiao let a lot of guys off the hook. Algieri would the most obvious example.
Marquez had the better career no doubt but as I said in a fantasy matchup, I’d side with Tank, I just think he clips him at some point.
I checked before I posted. He was #8 in ring 2008. He wasn’t #2.
Raving? I was pushing back against you and others that said Martin was a bum. Stop over exaggerating.
He won by MD. Your scores verify that.
You have got to be kidding. He beat Morales who had lost 3 in a row. MD Montaldo then Fed to Manny. You did the same BS last week claiming some TR guy had a hard road.
You are so biased it’s nauseating. Notice they swerved Raheem after he destroyed the Morales that beat Manny, but Diaz gets the fight after beating 3 loss in a row Morales.
lmfao. Diaz at the time Manny fought him wasn’t better than Pedrazza, Pitbull, Ryan or Martin.
No all of Tank’s fights aren’t easy setups. As many have called you out for- if he were Tankovich from Kazakhstan you’d be fine with his resume.
Díaz was the equivalent of Rolly- a promoter set up for an easy title win/ defense.
Even though David Diaz was a weak challenger, there was no real reason for manny to stay at 135 after that fight. I know, because I was in the middle of those conversations. Nate had already beaten Juan Diaz for the unified titles, so after Manny beat David for the WBC title, Don King set up a meeting with Bob Arum to try and make Manny vs Nate for undisputed. The talks didnt really progress too far, as we found out that they were also talking to Oscar. They ended up making manny-oscar, and who can blame them. Right after manny-oscar, Nate missed weight for the Funeka fight, and all the titles got separated. Manny fought Hatton at 140, and never went back to 135
There is no denying Tank is one of the top lightweights of the world right now.
How would he have faired against Lightweights from other eras.
Manny Pacquiao at 135lbs
JMM at 135 lbs
Jose Luis Castillo at 135lbs
Diego Corrales at 135lbs
I genuinely think he loses to all four, but what do you guys think?Pac and JMM would spark him out and he defeats Castillo and Corrales.
Marquez caught caught/hurt by lesser fighters. H2H I like Tank’s chances.
Never out, and when pacquio hurt anyone he will finish the job, not with Marquez, so I like his chances, too bad we will never get to see it. Below is a list of his most notable opponents, I don't see anyone similar on tank list, maybe pitbull.
Freddie Norwood
Manny Pacquio(4)
Marco A. barrera
Orlando Salido
Chris John
Rocky Juarez
Joel Casamayor
Juan Diaz (twice)
Bradley
Kasidis
Mayweather
I checked before I posted. He was #8 in ring 2008. He wasn’t #2.
Raving? I was pushing back against you and others that said Martin was a bum. Stop over exaggerating.
He won by MD. Your scores verify that.
You have got to be kidding. He beat Morales who had lost 3 in a row. MD Montaldo then Fed to Manny. You did the same BS last week claiming some TR guy had a hard road.
You are so biased it’s nauseating. Notice they swerved Raheem after he destroyed the Morales that beat Manny, but Diaz gets the fight after beating 3 loss in a row Morales.
lmfao. Diaz at the time Manny fought him wasn’t better than Pedrazza, Pitbull, Ryan or Martin.
No all of Tank’s fights aren’t easy setups. As many have called you out for- if he were Tankovich from Kazakhstan you’d be fine with his resume.
Díaz was the equivalent of Rolly- a promoter set up for an easy title win/ defense.
Believe he was ranked #2 when he fought Pacquaio. David Diaz that is.
That's according to The Ring Magazine.
I have seen so many tank's in my life, and believe me when I say they all ended up looking at the ceiling sooner rather than later, when face with a good fighter with power.
Marquez caught caught/hurt by lesser fighters. H2H I like Tank’s chances.
That was easy for you. Ko Marquez?A guy that was never ko.
You have a point, but Marquez is more vulnerable to getting hit than the others, and as we know, he's never faced a puncher like Tank with a high boxing IQ. The closest is Pac who is more of a volume puncher than a power hitter.
Because a fighter has never been KO doesn't mean it is not going to happen or bound to happen. Boxing is full of those stories/records.
I think it could go either way and obviously we’ll never know but gun to my head, I’d pick Tank by KO, just have this gut instinct he’d catch him with a huge shot at some point.
I have seen so many tank's in my life, and believe me when I say they all ended up looking at the ceiling sooner rather than later, when face with a good fighter with power.
That could change if he fight someone with power.
I think it could go either way and obviously we’ll never know but gun to my head, I’d pick Tank by KO, just have this gut instinct he’d catch him with a huge shot at some point.
I'm not hoping anything. That's just how Tank fights. When he turns it on you see the end result.
Did you hear Frank in the post-fight press conference talking about how good Tank is at setting traps?
We're seeing 2 different things in the ring from him.
Most in here don't see the traps you got to know boxing; it's the same mentality that says Davis can't box and is just Wilder; there is no doubt that hate is as blind as a bat.
This is a hard one.
Tank has a high IQ.
He KOs Marquez only because Marquez sometimes sits in the pockets too long to let off his combos. A patient Marquez outboxes him
He KOs Pac. Just too smart for Pac...Pac squares up too much and gets out of position and Tank is quick and fast enough to capitalize.
Beats Castillo. Castillo has nothing that will trouble Tank
Corrales before Mayweather gives Tank issues, due to his range and power. Not sure how this one plays out.
That was easy for you. Ko Marquez?A guy that was never ko.
There is no denying Tank is one of the top lightweights of the world right now.
How would he have faired against Lightweights from other eras.
Manny Pacquiao at 135lbs
JMM at 135 lbs
Jose Luis Castillo at 135lbs
Diego Corrales at 135lbs
I genuinely think he loses to all four, but what do you guys think?
This is a hard one.
Tank has a high IQ.
He KOs Marquez only because Marquez sometimes sits in the pockets too long to let off his combos. A patient Marquez outboxes him
He KOs Pac. Just too smart for Pac...Pac squares up too much and gets out of position and Tank is quick and fast enough to capitalize.
Beats Castillo. Castillo has nothing that will trouble Tank
Corrales before Mayweather gives Tank issues, due to his range and power. Not sure how this one plays out.
it so weird comparing a guy who wont even fight the best guys in his division to the best guys in other eras or even to anyone actually
i mean if u remember someone like ggg who actually had belts but was fighting & ko'ing what people saw were lower level guys, he got a bit of hype and the daggers were out for him for years and year, bumlovkin bumkiller & many other things, tank is way worse than him in this regard, its a funny sport i think like that
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