Against Jamaine Ortiz the excuse for not impressing was that the opponent didn’t want to engage and that Teo had to chase him around the ring. But yesterday he had a guy that came straight forward at him all night and he STILL failed to look impressive. I don’t know if he needs to bring back Joey Gamache or just switch to a new trainer altogether or if his personal life is still negatively affecting him or what. But to me he has stopped growing and his power isn’t all that at 140 lbs.
Bam on the other hand? What is there to say, the guy just continues to amaze against high level opposition and just dominates them. He is only 24 but already on his way to a Hall of Fame career and possibly all-time great status. If he stays disciplined and doesn’t let the trappings of success lead him into bad lifestyle habits imagine where he will be when he is 28? He already has a better resume than Tank Davis imo.
Teofimo keeps name dropping Terence Crawford as a potential opponent but TC’s next fight is at junior middleweight and he is likely never going back to 147.
If Teo can’t crack at 140 lbs does he really think he has anything for TC at 154 lbs?
If Teo actually wanted TC, he would've petitioned the sanctioning bodies for a 147lb title shot right after the Taylor fight. That's what TC did when he decided to move to 154. Teofimo runs his mouth to maintain his buzz, but he knows that match-up isn't happening.
He did win with a wide margin. At least Teo discovered his flaws in this fight. He found he can't return the favor with the same relentless attack. He kept getting cornered. And when he's cornered, he gets stuck in there and can't turn the situation around by grabbing his opponent and switch positions, which other fighters can easily do. But then it's probably worse, or just don't have any experience attacking a cornered opponent.
He also beat Nakatani by a wide margin iirc, but he didn't look great in that fight either. Teofimo's flaws have been on display for a long time, but his power and athleticism have bailed him out. It seems like Teofimo was fortunate to stop Commey as early as he did. Most were expecting him to do the same to Claggett, but the KO never came.
He did win with a wide margin. At least Teo discovered his flaws in this fight. He found he can't return the favor with the same relentless attack. He kept getting cornered. And when he's cornered, he gets stuck in there and can't turn the situation around by grabbing his opponent and switch positions, which other fighters can easily do. But then it's probably worse, or just don't have any experience attacking a cornered opponent.
I wasn't all that impressed with Lopez last night either. I think 135 was his limit, maybe? Claggett, on the other hand, did impress me with his engine. He isn't a smart fighter, but he is relentless and doesn't seem to tire. Someone should fine tune his game and he'd be a serious threat.
Bam was impressive. Very impressive. Estrada, while fading, was a tall order, and he handled it almost effortlessly - even after getting dropped.
...but it didn't happen to Terrence Crawford, the person whom Teofimo keeps name-dropping. Teo would probably say that he's on TC's level, and that he's vastly superior to the likes of Broner/Rios. Teo is just not as great as he thinks. Maybe Teo is more reliant on physical attributes than skills.
Some fighters carry their power as they go up in weight, in some rare occurrences they actually gain power and some fighters leave the power behind in the lower weight class.
Teo relied on athleticism and power which worked at the lower weights where is power was a game changer. His boxing skills haven't improved and that athleticism and diminished power can only get him some against the bigger guys.
Don't know what happened. How about giving credit to Claggett, instead of just focusing on Lopez?
Anyways, Lopez can't complain he's being given dance partners that run all night. This was supposed to be type of opponents he always wanted.
I think Claggett will be given credit for this performance retroactively. He needs to look good against someone relevant first.
What's worse about Teofimo Lopez' performance against Claggett is that he was a handpicked opponent and yet Lopez still struggled to get him out of there. In addition, Steve Cleggett is 35 years old and a shopworn fighter, with approximately 50 professional fights too. That's old for a fighter. My question is where did "The Takeover's" punching power go? I only ask because it's been missing ever since he defeated Loma at 135.
What's worse about Teofimo Lopez' performance against Claggett is that he was a handpicked opponent and yet Lopez still struggled to get him out of there. In addition, Steve Cleggett is 35 years old and shopworn fighter, with approximately 50 professional fights too. That's old for a fighter. My question is where did "The Takeover's" punching power go? I only ask because it's been missing ever since he defeated Loma at 135.
Don't know what happened. How about giving credit to Claggett, instead of just focusing on Lopez?
Anyways, Lopez can't complain he's being given dance partners that run all night. This was supposed to be type of opponents he always wanted.
The jump from 135 to 140/147 is one of the hardest jumps in boxing.
Teo was a wrecking machine at 135, but can't crack an egg at 140.
Same thing happened to Adrian Broner and Brandon Rios.
...but it didn't happen to Terrence Crawford, the person whom Teofimo keeps name-dropping. Teo would probably say that he's on TC's level, and that he's vastly superior to the likes of Broner/Rios. Teo is just not as great as he thinks. Maybe Teo is more reliant on physical attributes than skills.
The jump from 135 to 140/147 is one of the hardest jumps in boxing.
Teo was a wrecking machine at 135, but can't crack an egg at 140.
Same thing happened to Adrian Broner and Brandon Rios.
No these fighters are just not good enough in the first place and can only get their way with exorbitant weight cuts.
Against Jamaine Ortiz the excuse for not impressing was that the opponent didn’t want to engage and that Teo had to chase him around the ring. But yesterday he had a guy that came straight forward at him all night and he STILL failed to look impressive. I don’t know if he needs to bring back Joey Gamache or just switch to a new trainer altogether or if his personal life is still negatively affecting him or what. But to me he has stopped growing and his power isn’t all that at 140 lbs.
Bam on the other hand? What is there to say, the guy just continues to amaze against high level opposition and just dominates them. He is only 24 but already on his way to a Hall of Fame career and possibly all-time great status. If he stays disciplined and doesn’t let the trappings of success lead him into bad lifestyle habits imagine where he will be when he is 28? He already has a better resume than Tank Davis imo.
If Teo wants those 140 titles to mean something he has to get past Catterall first.
The jump from 135 to 140/147 is one of the hardest jumps in boxing.
Teo was a wrecking machine at 135, but can't crack an egg at 140.
Same thing happened to Adrian Broner and Brandon Rios.
I shared similar sentiments in the main thread. Teofimo really needs to think about expanding his training team, or outright replacing his father. As tough as Claggett might be, he's not an elite boxer and the style match-up clearly favored Teofimo. Both Bam and Teofimo were trying to "swim without getting wet" against their respective opponents, staying within punching range and making subtle offensive/defensive changes. Bam fought the better opponent, got hit less (even-though he did get knocked down), and demonstrated more versatility. Teofimo is supposed to be an elite counter-puncher, but it was Bam who delivered the perfect liver shot to put Estrada down. Claggett provided ample opportunities to land the kill-shot, and Teo simply couldn't deliver. Teofimo is already proven, but he's simply not as great as he's built himself up to be. He is far from being the best fighter in the world. Even after the likes of Crawford/Usyk/Canelo retire, he still may not reach the peak of the mountain.
Teofimo keeps name dropping Terence Crawford as a potential opponent but TC’s next fight is at junior middleweight and he is likely never going back to 147.
If Teo can’t crack at 140 lbs does he really think he has anything for TC at 154 lbs?
I shared similar sentiments in the main thread. Teofimo really needs to think about expanding his training team, or outright replacing his father. As tough as Claggett might be, he's not an elite boxer and the style match-up clearly favored Teofimo. Both Bam and Teofimo were trying to "swim without getting wet" against their respective opponents, staying within punching range and making subtle offensive/defensive changes. Bam fought the better opponent, got hit less (even-though he did get knocked down), and demonstrated more versatility. Teofimo is supposed to be an elite counter-puncher, but it was Bam who delivered the perfect liver shot to put Estrada down. Claggett provided ample opportunities to land the kill-shot, and Teo simply couldn't deliver. Teofimo is already proven, but he's simply not as great as he's built himself up to be. He is far from being the best fighter in the world. Even after the likes of Crawford/Usyk/Canelo retire, he still may not reach the peak of the mountain.
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