It was a good fight no matter who you were pulling for. I think these guys are the 2018 version on pac vs jmm. The ying to their yang if you will. Both fights have been too close for comfort. I thought GGG won it 7-5. I think Canelo got more credit for doing the same thing GGG did the first fight but that's boxing lol. They both left it all in the ring tonight glad neither guy ran this time.
Max and Roy were on Canelos sack from round 1. All this BS about the "story of the fight" kellerman kept talkin. They said g was gassed by the 3rd yet he outthrew Canelo ever round lol. 7-5 G or a draw.
It's crazy Canelo at his peak goes life and death with G who's certainly no longer at his best. Shows how good G really is. I expect a 3rd fight or G retires.
Overall it was a good fight not mad at Canelo he fought well i just think they switched roles and G did better. G was never in trouble Canelo was. That's what edge it for GGG for me.
You sure you're not mad?
Yes 100%. Canelos always been one of my favorite fighters I think he fought great I just don't think he deserved the w tonight . Find A GGG groupie on this thread, there's plenty, and rub it in their face cuz you wint get the same satisfaction with someone like me lol
They're either gonna let this kid kick but wear 10oz gloves or they're gonna let him wear 4oz with no kicks. Doesnt matter though even if they allow kicks Floyd won't stand there to be kicked anyways.
My guess is they let the kid box in 4oz gloves Floyd carries him like McGregor makes it look somewhat competitive then stops him. Floyd would probably literally kill this kid if he hits him with 4oz gloves due to the size difference and counters he'd be landing at will. So my guess is he takes it easy on him.
Sucks were gonna get 1000 articles about this "fight" for the next 8 weeks or so but IH well. Idk about you all but I party on NYE so I'll probably miss this I'm sure I'll catch the highlights though
It will be so sad if Floyd has once again gotten himself in a money bind despite all the money hes made. You kind of know its inevitable but to be happening this quickly, that will be very sad.
I didn't think he's in a bind per say, I think it's more so that he wants to keep up the lifestyle and appearances. In order to do that he's gotta keep get these types of pay days other wise he'll just have to live the life of a "regular" rich person.
When you're buying $18 million dollar watches, other jewelry, fleets of cars, private jets, & other depreciatable assets, mansions, women, gambling, Entourage, kids, making investments that don't always pay off, running a promotion company and other ventures those $100million dollar pay days wont last as long as you'd think. Floyd is by no means broke right now but if he plans to maintain the lifestyle he seems to love he's gonna have to keep "fighting".
New Canelo weight division 165 coming soon lol. Hes gonna make the 160lbers come up and weaken the guys at 168 by making them come down
Can't wait for him and Oscar to say "I'm not a real super middle weight" in their defense.
Its so stupid. fight at 160 or 168 anything in between is only being done to gain an unnecessary advantage
Is it just me or has the entire promotion for this fight been centered around a guy thats not even fighting? lol I feel like they've talked about Joshua more than they've talked about eachother. They might as well give that man a split of their purses. Hopefully when this is over we finally can get Joshua vs Wilder or Fury already. Im almost as tired of hearing of these 3 as I am of Khan and Brook potentially fighting. The HW division is so trash
I am one of the most unbiased posters on this site. After watching this fight I scored it 113-113. 7 rounds to 5 for Fury but the difference was the 2 knock downs. I gave Fury rounds 1,3,6,7,8,10 & 11. I gave Wilder rounds 2,4,5, 9 & 10. The 5th round was the one round Fury gave away as he threw very little & landed only few punches. Wilder may have missed a lot in that round but he was busier & landed a few shots. That was a very close round & hard to score but I gave it to Wilder for his activity level. As for the controversy on the KDs. Both KDs Reiss did the same thing. He gave him the count & asked Tyson to walk away & back. Some people were saying that he gave Fury extra time to recover. Well I timed it. Fury was up at 9 & by the time he called them to fight it was 21.11 seconds from the time he hit the canvas. Reiss may have allowed Fury a couple extra seconds but that was it. Kudos to Reiss for not calling off the fight when Tyson was laying on his back. Good fight but Wilder's eraser right hand made the difference again. Both KDs were started by the right & followed with a left. 113-113 on my card...Let's do it again!
I think you were mighty generous in the rounds you gave to wilder. The only rounds I agree on are round 2, 12 & I think 9 when he scored the 1st kd. The rest of the fight he was swinging at air and badly gassed in he 11th after missing all night. Fury was dictating the pace of the fight he did what he wanted to, forcing Wilder to come to him and then event times walking Wilder down in the latter half of the fight.
Fury landed more, dictated the pace and won more rounds. To give Wilder a draw you have to literally give him every round that was close. I just don't see how anyone could give him more than the two kds and 2 rounds at most.
Wilder was outclassed & I had picked him to win. I'll gladly admit I was completely wrong about my prediction
explains why Fury only landed 12 more punches whole fight right?
you have to give every close round to Fury for him to win. that is bias.
WIlder clearly won round 1 in my book.
actually you dont. a lot of people seem to be spreading the false notion that a majority of the rounds were close, they werent. On what basis are you deeming these close rounds? He wasnt outlanding Fury, he certainly was missing more than Fury, He wasnt dictating the pace of the fight so you cant give him ring generalship. These are all things that count towards scoring a round.
The fact that you are quoting sho stats tells me everything I need to know, you either didnt watch or you saw what you wanted to see. Those numbers do not at all tell the story of the fight.
The fact that Wilder couldnt beat a man who been out of the ring for nearly 3 years, abused his body with drugs and alcohol, ballooned up to like 350lbs, took two tune ups that were complete jokes, shows that Fury is not only leagues above Wilder, he's also the current #1 Heavyweight in the world. F--ck a rematch. AJ & Wilder must fight each other winner faces Fury to become the top dog.
Body language after the final bell told it all. Fury rejoiced as he knew he had the fight won. Wilder not once raised his hand, didnt look to the crowd, walked to his corner with his head down, didnt even crack a smile til he and Fury hugged. You could even see it in his team they knew , like he knew, he had been beaten.
When the draw was announced Fury looked dissapointed Wilder looked elated. When asked about an immediate rematch Wilder said he didnt think Fury would be his next fight. Doesnt sound like a man who believed he had won or that he was eager to fight again.
Still a winnable fight for GGG but Charlos chances are better than they've ever been based on their respective performances against DChenko.GGG is knocking on 40 with a lot of mileage. Charlo is in his prime. Would be a great fight. I don't see it happening though as I believe Gman is on his way out & hard fights like that aren't in his best interest.
Great advice from the man himself, the trainer of champions.
GGG is a midrange fighter. Getting in close, smothering him, and breaking down his body gives Canelo the best chance of winning.
but canelo never fights that way
As a GGG fan I also think so. GGG doesn't like to get hit to the body. He becomes passive after each body punches landed to him. GGG should fight like against Lemieux. Otherwise Canelo will land tons of body shots and uppercuts.
I keep seeing this silly comment constantly being posted "GGG doesn't like it to the body" lol neither does canelo nor does any boxer. some can take the shots better than others but I scratching my head as to why so many keep insinuating that GGG cant take body shots. I cant ever recall a time where he was seriously hurt, in trouble, in survival mode or bent over from a body shot. so where is this coming from?
wait, Pac is fed up with the politics of Arum controlling him like a guinea pig, or the paper filling he does in office which he calls ''political service.''
In America and the UK it's usually ideal for government figures to have some sort of degree in a field or studied political sciences to understand how politics works anyways.
Trump had no experience, expertise, degree or qualifications and yet is somehow was able to convince enough idiots that he was capable of holding the highest political position in the U.S. so that kinda destroys that theory. Lets also not forget Gov. Schwarzenegger or President Reagan. I think its fair to say just about anyone can be a politician and if your intentions are good like i believe Pacmans were, even better.
I wish he woulda realized this a lot sooner, the higher he goes up the political ladder, the more fed up he will be.
Getting into politics definitely shortened the prime of his career. Once he stopped fully dedicating his-self to the sport hes decline became inevitable. not to mention all the other crap he had going on with coaching and playing for that basketball team, singing, acting, preaching etc. it was amazing he was able to compete at the highest the level for the amount of time that he did. Now that age and wear and tear has set in, even if he quit everything else in his life and became a full time boxer again, its too little too late. Sure he can still win fights and look impressive but the damage is done
I guarantee all those have double Pacquiao's IQ.
Id say Reagan probably had the highest of all the above mentioned. Arnold and Pac are probably about even and Trumpster not too far behind them. But lets not pretend IQ level makes a differnce anyways when we've had guys like Bush Jr. in office. he makes Trump look like a computer nerd lol
I think by exercise he means sparring. At least I hope so. A cut eyebrow has nothing to do with with conditioning.
The thing is Fury mostly spars without headgear, which is why you'll see him with scratches and abraisons during camp often. Iron Mike used to do it because he said fighters get a false sense of security with headgear and tend to move their head less during the real fight. I'm assuming Fury does it for the same reason.
Might have to throw that tactic out the window for this camp. If that cut reopens against Wilder, they're definitely gonna stop the fight and spoil a good one
Floyd said the same sheit about pacquiao and it turned out to be the biggest dud in boxing history for a fight of that magnitude
To be fair he never said he was gonna do the same with Pacquiao he didnt say he was gonna fight as defensive as he did he kinda just let people speculate. Floyd Sr. was the one who kept saying floyd was gonna whoop Mannys ass and stop him. Then later took it back and blamed it on Floyd having bad hands. U gotta take everything Sr. says with a grain of salt.
On the other hand after the 1st Maidana fight floyd said he was gonna go for the knock out and instead he did the complete opposite and fought the most defensive fight ive ever seen him in. (may pac being a razor thin close 2nd). Maidanas size brute strength, punching power and awkwardness bothered him in both fights.
for boxings sake i hope he does put on a show and really goes for the kill. You can take risks beat a guys ass silly and still avoid taking punishment. With so many causals tuning in Floyds gotta deliver some action. a 12 round potshotting UD is only gonna turn more casuals away from boxing and further push the B.S. narrative that MMA guys keep spouting;"Boxing isnt real fighting"
Mikeys fighting an exhibition match against Erik Morales. Doesn't give much faith that him and Loma are stepping in a ring together anytime soon
But if they fight tomorrow, gun to my head. I pick Loma by decision. He beats Mikey with his legs imo. Because of that as well as the difference in hand speeed I see Loma hitting more than Mikey and getting hit less than Mikey.
There's two ways to beat Loma imo. brute force and grit or by fighting the way Pedraza did for 12 rounds non stop. Pedrazas reach high and twitchy jab we're pissing Loma off until he finally found a way in and Pedraza fell apart. Not that he was winning but a better fighter with those same attributes would give Loma real problems
Roach should change his name to PED Coach:
Roach knows of 2 of his fighters who tested positive for PEDs
Freddie Roach, the trainer of Manny Pacquiao, said he has worked with two fighters who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs but takes precautions so it won’t creep into his gym in Hollywood, Calif.
Roach said one of his former fighters, Justin Fortune, was known to have used PEDs and James Toney twice tested positive for steroids, once when he was working with Roach.
“I won’t say I didn’t know,” said Roach, referring to Toney. “I never asked him, though. I never had a conversation. I could see his body structure had signs, his traps and stuff. He was either lifting a lot of weight or he was on (something).
“I think I had one other fighter on steroids also, Justin Fortune. I know he’d been there before...”
Roach also has discussed PEDs with strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza, who works with Pacquiao.
“A hundred percent,” he said. “That’s the first guy I went to. Alex is a friend of mine and he works with me. My reputation is on the line with him. He assures me 100 percent that there’s nothing out there.”
https://www.******.com/123119-roach-knows-of-2-of-his-fighters-who-tested-positive-for-peds/
this is a dumb post
I don’t think it will be as bad as people think, I just think it wouldn’t be close at all. GGG still has that dog in him to see the final bell but that’s it.
All the things that made Golovkin great -his power, footwork, balance, pressure, gas tank have all declined.
He was always slow but had great timing- now he’s slower. He always got hit- now he gets hit a lot more. he used to have the ultimate poker face - now he’s visibly hurt/tired. The fear factor is gone. Canelos not gonna be as cautious as he was before, which means he will be pressing forward & Golovkin has absolutely nothing going backwards.
I hope the G-man just says no the fight. I know it’s a pride thing but it just doesn’t seem worth it at this point.
the funny thing is, if he does the smart thing and walks way there will be people & even probably Canelo saying he “ducked” the trilogy. Lol. Imagine that. A 40/41 year old man way past his prime ducking arguably the best fighter on the planet & in his prime
Who on this Earth thought this would do big numbers with all those games on ? Matter fact take the games away would they really be that much better? Who even knew this fight was on ?