still think it was a bad idea not to do a tune up. punch resistance will be tested against the biggest puncher at 147..
Lol Since when was Garcia the biggest puncher at 147???
I’m a big Floyd fan, doesn’t change the fact he has some BS victories dude. Seriously, you call that a victory over PAC? Gtfoh, bet u can’t even remember a punch that Floyd landed. Except for that same one everybody posts landing on Manny’s shoulder, lmao. Horrible performance from Floyd, you have to engage a fighter man. Can’t just potshot and run around for 12 rds. and clinch. There’s a reason those actions gets BOO’s from the audience. Floyd had it rigged dude. No other boxer could perform so lacklusterly and continue to win. That BS he pulled with Maidana, wearing fist friendlier gloves. Gtfoh man. Never fighting out of Vegas.
Canelo was super green, so that fight doesn’t mean much.
Imagine if he fought Canelo post Canelo-Cotto? Way different fight. Imagine he fought Margarito in 06 like he was supposed to? Or Gave ODLH that rematch? Or fought prime Manny in 08-10?
Sheesh. Floyd was the ultimate career mgr.
I love Floyd I think he’s definitely top 20-25 GOAT. But no boxing pundits actually include him on their top 5-10 ATG list. Only f l 0 m 0 z do.
He has too much BS/asterisks on his whole career that just prevent him from being truly 100% appreciated.
Lol I remember they asked Eva Longoria the actress about the PAC and Floyd fight and she said, “How did Floyd win? He didn’t do anything!” Lmao so true. Manny didn’t break a sweat that whole performance. Dudes skin was fresh after the fight.
U gotta engage fighters. In the UFC those type of performances would draw BOO’s from the crowd and fan base and Dana White would have to start considering firing a fighter like that from his organization.
Dude you’re legit delusional...Floyd landed jabs and check hooks all night against Manny..was it sexy? No but it was one sided and Manny struggled to get any offense going...
Then with Maidana, multiple felt his glove and felt like it wasn’t right, and the glove Maidana used were alternate gloves he picked out anyway!!!
Canelo was a unified Champion! And was rated 2nd on most p4p list! You talking about “what if Floyd fought Canelo after the Cotto fight” dog do you realize Floyd already had his last real fight before they fought? He retired in September! That fight happened in November! Dog stop.
Then you talking about Margarito the damn cheater, he was slow as hell, hands and feet, it would’ve been Floyd Baldomir pt.2 and he schooled the guy who destroyed Margarito anyway
Oscar didn’t need to get a rematch! It wasn’t close enough, Floyd obviously won the end
And didn’t Floyd sign a contract in 2010?? and didn’t Manny not sign it cause he didn’t want random blood testing?? Oh ok...You’re Just a hater
Floyd 20-25?? dog I’m done with you, the hate is strong with you huh? lmaoooo your a troll
Tale of the tape...
Floyd - 147
Japanese kickboxer - 127
Your talking about an exhibition match that had no effect on either of their records..
but you don’t have anything to say when Floyd was 147 and Maidana weighed around 170
Something is wrong with you
Top 5 no....top 20 yes he was a great fighter and used craft to frustrate and beat faster, more athletic fighters...Probably the 2nd greatest boxing mind in the last 35-40 years as far as boxers go
Mayweather fighting that last guy wasn’t weight bullying. That was the p4p best man throwing down. Can’t be beat. Can’t be stopped. GOAT.
You legit might be re-tar-ded
Floyd also made him wear pillow gloves, cause if not, Floyd woulda been rag dolled!
The gloves Maidana wore where picked out by Maidana himself, at the end of the day they were still 8oz gloves...You know what I don’t even know I’m responding cause you’re delusional
Doesn’t matter, only FLOYD was allowed to actually not fight in a boxing match and still win.
He had the game in Vegas rigged, everybody knows.
Your such a hater dog, it makes no sense....just think, being so delusional that you hate one of the Top ATG and the best defensive fighter ever so much you can’t enjoy his career, all the great performances, the beatings he put on some people the materclasses he gave out, sad.
I’m glad you think so. Someone who would say that certainly would be.
You literally accused Floyd of being a weight bully....you know jack **** about boxing
No you don't get it at all.
Devon was locked in for a title defense early 2013 so they would’ve had to fight later 2013 around the time Floyd fought Canelo.....
Oh and Chop Chop, Zab Judah, Cotto and Canelo are all quick footed slick boxers ...Cotto was recognized as the best at 154 when they fought...Canelo was a unified Champion and Rated 2nd on the P4P list sooooo what’s the problem?
You’re right, that kick-boxer was huge. I wasn’t wearing my glasses. Thanks for showing me the way.
Lol your an idiot...complaining about a exhibition match like it has some effect on his career....your a troll
Honestly I thought Floyd Sr. carrying on with Guerrero's pops and all the sideshow antics is the reason people bought the ppv.
It definitely wasn't like Mayweather vs. Guerrero was some major superfight on the level of Ali/Frazier thats for sure.
Guerrero was just another slow, flat footed short armed, low risk fighter that Floyd could look good against. All anybody is saying is that Alexander could have possibly posed more of a style risk due to his speed, southpaw stance, slickness, etc.
Well keep hating on Floyd then. I'm just saying whats on my mind. Could care less if anybody calls it hating.
So let me get this straight...Floyd ducked Devon Alexander in order to fight Canelo....I want y’all to go out to your nearest Boxing gym and try that out on some boxing Trainers...you’d get laughed out the gym....Delusion boy I tell ya
Dude...your hate has reached delusional levels...complaining about how Floyd trained for a MMA fighter where he walked him down and Tko’d him...
Floyd Is known for having brutal training camps and working harder then everyone else, for you to try and attack the way he trains is absolutely ridiculous...one of the dumbest threads I’ve seen on this forum
Nobody cares how Floyd trained for a MMA fighter..should’ve been an exhibition tbh
The other myth buster about this fight was that Floyd shut Canelo out or that it was very one sided, people only remember the last 4 rounds, the first 8 were very competitive. It was high speed chess, and at times Canelo was getting the better of it.
It's one of those fights where the commentators affected the perception of the general public, the fact that it was a boxing match automatically meant Floyd was dominating, when in reality that wasnt the case in the first half of the fight. After round 8 Canelo became mentally fatigued, he just couldn't keep up with Floyd's changing patterns, rhythm, etc
It was a lack of experience at that level, and had he fought Floyd from the 2017 version to now, this prime version of Canelo has learned to use his size and physicality, hes put the package together, and I think he beats any version of floyd as the bigger man, that was really the missing ingredient.
At what point was there fight close? Stop it where not gonna re-write history...Floyd dominated from the jump and Canelo was not winning rounds period.
Also Canelo was a unified champion and rated 2nd p4p...people need to stop acting like he was some wet behind the ears fighter
Crazy thing is It’s plenty of pictures of fighters using opaque Sports bottles...it’s not uncommon at all. Harrison looks terrible, like an absolute clown he needs to issue a public apology to Charlo but I bet he won’t ...
all the hate for the Charlo’s is getting kinda crazy, everybody was just ready to jump on this with no information or proof at all..ridiculous
If we’re gonna go that route, Charlo still making excuses for the first fight lol. I also don’t remember Tony crying after taking his L.
But I don’t typically watch post fights, and I didn’t watch that one since I turned the channel off in disgust when they mentioned Charlo was ahead on all three cards.
Tony 100% cried after the loss....unless you mean complained but it’s kinda hard to Complain when you got dropped violently back to back
Cmon man even noobs should realize at this point that was not prime canelo not even close floyd knew it so he jumped on it ****t if he was so confident that he could beat a prime canelo he wudda jumped st the chance a few yrs back when canelo called him out.
Floyd knows damn well he beat a young green canelo that’s why he won’t dare step in with him anymore.
Yea...Floyd at 40 should’ve come out of retirement to prove his legacy against a now prime Canelo".....You sound ridiculous dude....
Floyd fought for only 2 more years after he fought Canelo, just give Floyd his props...even as a 36 yesterday old he was beating top p4p fighters...
Wilder may not have but his team will have.
His team were the one that didn’t want press conferences because they know Wilder get’s mentally beaten around Fury.
Fury is the one who had serious talks with his wife about retiring after the Wilder fight...Fury said it in his book
But somehow the guy who’s best chance is for them to mix it up doesn’t wanna face off....some of y’all are really delusional or just full blown trolls...or both
Mikey whooped that ass though Garcia would do the same.
Ryan Ain’t no Mikey Garcia...put some respect on Mikey’s name...Ryan has no where the boxing skills Mikey has
U mad Garcia beat Fonseca in better fashion than tank did?
Your talking about the fight where Tank was putting his hands behind his back and played around and taunted damn near the entire fight as it should be used as a yardstick for these two boxing abilities...that’s ridiculous
Ryan also was getting roughed up and struggled his way to a majority decision against Carlos Morales who has all of 8 KO’s where as Tank hasn’t struggled to beat an opponent yet
that's prolly some east coast crip... and to add more to it, blacks dont usually have each other's back in there, unless you're from the same gang and even then, sometimes blacks dont always bck each other up.. but if you're just another black dude that is not part of any black gangs in there then you're pretty much on your own.
DC blacks have the numbers and are usually hot heads.. but structure wise, DC blacks have none, which is why they're the most disruptive because no one is in charge.
i've seen videos of prison attacks and heard stories about the war between DC blacks and the AB and the DC are always on the losing end.
This is just Racist nonsense
Of course anyone going into someone elses hood isn't going to fair well BUT dudes from DC are down. The 3rd week I worked in a Prison I witnessed DC's flatten the head of a Crip paper thin on the yard. The Crip was a well respected among all Crip sets but not 1 jumped in to help. There were about 1/10th of the amount of DC's than Crips on the yard and they didnt give a F.
Look up the DC blacks in Federal Prison. They are the most disruptive (non organized) sets in the Feds. They've also been beefing with the Aryan Brotherhood for decades now and fraction them in #s but hold their own with their ruthless ways.
He not from DC....he’s from Baltimore
I get that, I’m saying would he have actually still fought canelo?
Canelo ended up weighing like 167 on fight night while Floyd weighed 148....so 2 pounds means a 21 pound advantage for Canelo....not the 4 or so pounds advantage Floyd had....it’s not the same thing
It wasn’t the fairest fight — Floyd paid a $600,000 penalty for going two pounds over the 144 catchweight, while Marquez came in at 142. That’s a four pound gap. Big difference. Yes, it was impressive to beat someone that good, that completely; but if they weighed the same going into the fight, and Juan had more time to adjust to the higher weight limit, the bout may very well have been more competitive.
Cmon now all those fights Floyd was outweighed by at least 13 pounds Maidana, Oscar,Cotto, Ortiz,Canelo...that’s no issue but Floyd is 4 pounds heavier and it’s so unfair?
Ortiz destroys him
This is the future of boxing
He is the next big star of boxing
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Revelated gets owned once again
Hey Revelated isn’t it time you give it up
You always got Hornet to rest your balls on
Ortiz destroys Spence? Dude I think you should take a deep breath...Ortiz has fought nobody and hasn’t shown the defense to beat a high work rate fighter like Spence...
I believe Ortiz is really good but he’s also got flaws that seasoned vets like Errol would take advantage of
Errol too far ahead of Ortiz for any fight in the near future...Errol not only has power that he carries the entire fight but he also has a high work rate, he throws a lot of punches and right now he’d overwhelm Ortiz defense which too often consist of him sitting still covering up(exactly the opposite of what you wanna do against Errol)Spence has been in there with tough competition as well and is just too advanced skills wise. Ortiz has a good ways to go before he should fight Spence......
I don’t mind the call out tho
He already lost a title on the scales at 130. Even if he does make weight, he will have to kill himself to get to 130.
He made 130 twice last year what are you talking about
Never impressed by Spence and even less with his latest fights
He balloons in weight , he’s drinking
Virgil is hungry and motivated
Loses the first few rounds and then lays him a beating
I know he’s green but I still see him winning
Not impressed with his fight against the always tough Porter? Not impressed how he broke down a bigger man Brook? How he threw 1000 punches against Mikey? His top tier body punching? His Mixing in hi’s and lo’s? The fact he has power the full 12?
Cmon dog your trippin....Ortiz hasn’t even gone 12 rounds...he has 13 fights I believe...Ortiz often defensively sits still while covering up, that’s the wrong way to fight Spence who can pour on a variety of head and body punches while he’s got his ear muffs on. Vergil also doesn’t have a ton of head movement and is a fairly straight forward boxer, acting like he can bang with the top of WW Spence is crazy right now...Spence has shown how big of a dog he is, he’s shown he can take a punch and come right back he’s shown he can adjust, Vergil is a prospect and until he shows more skills and answers some questions about how he reacts in tough fights it’s absolutely disrespectful to put him in there with Errol.