When I was a kid, i would always watch my dads videos of Ali's matches.. My dad had every Ali fight and I watched them all. And now I'm obssesed with boxing now.
Imagine Jordan without Scottie...he would still be good but not as good.
Same thing with Kobe...he was really good with Shaq...but without shaq hes still good but probably wont be as good because he has nobody to pass too..
A team has to have at least two All-stars.
Kobe is extremely talented, but he will NEVER match Jordan., he may have racked up a lot of accolades at an early age, but he doesnt seem to have the discipline to maximize his potential. He can't win without another serious superstar.
Well....tell me who couldn't win with another serious superstar?? Jordan had scottie Pippins.
Kobe sucks he can't do anything without Shaq
What are you talking about??? Kobe is the next Jordan just watch...I hate how people say horrible stuff about him! Even Phil Jackson said that he is the best player in the league...he said that in an interview when they were talking about his book.
Shaq is a freakin' big baby....he cant stop talking!! I hate him, man. You know what he just said in a recent interview?? He said about Kobe, I wont talk to him anymore...I dont talk to people who haven't gone through college....wat a stupid dumbass shaq is man!Seriously! Will he ever stop talking like a dick!!
Calling Ali overated is ok when talking to basic sports fans or non-boxing fans. People think Ali was some god of boxing who was virtually unbeatable. Boxing experts will still say Ali is one of the best fighters of all time, as will most of us. We just aren't dumb enough to say he's impossible to beat.
It might not be impossible to beat him but it sure is tough to beat him... When you watch the Thrilla in Manilla and the Rumble in the Jungle, it looks like both of them are having a really, really hard time fighting Ali.
Morales I think will have no probably with Raheem. I predict that he will KO Raheem in the 10th or 11th round pretty easily.And what do you mean his age is catching up to him....hes only 28!
JuyJuy you seem like a nice little child but you know nothing about boxing.Foreman was never really hit until he got hit by Ali a legend.Foreman never lost until he lost to Ali a legend.Ali never lost until he lost to Frazier a legend.Frazer never lost until he lost to Foreman.Thomas or Tubbs couldnt carry Ali Foreman Norton or Frazier jock strap it they both tried together.Tucker was a bum.If you let a woman beating rapist beat you then you are a bum.
And you prove my point.Tyson fans are the worse.You always have excuses for the boy.He never beat a world class fighter.He wasnt capable of beating a world class fighter.Tyson was built up because the sport needed another superstar.Foreman Ali and the guys from the 70's were gone.Holmes was boring as hell and nobody liked him.Tyson just came along at the right time.He beat some garbage fighters and now you fans of his can't get him out your azz.He is overrated.He was and will never be anything more than a rapist coward. :p
I know....really...The people who tyson beat are garbage fighters and I agree....he's a rapist coward and is a dumbass..
I do kinda agree with you that I would rather buy the fight on dvd rather than buy it on ppv....Why pay $49.99 for a fight on ppv if you can buy it for $20 or maybe even $15 to buy it on dvd....plus you can watch it over and over..
the only reason i think lennox lewis is overrated is because peopel rank him waaaay to high, even at number 1, imo he can get 10 mayube 9 at best, he is in not way shape or form top 5, he is not better then Ali, Louis, Holms, Foreman, mike tyson should also be rated above lewis, he beat the people that lewis did to build his career before well lennox did and people still rate lewis above tyson.
Well, the reason people ranked Lewis higher than Tyson is because Lewis defeated tyson...but i bet if it was tyson in his prime, tyson would have smoked through lewis.
Benard Hopkins is a crybaby...like what taylor said, take this loss like a man and focus on the rematch so you can do better.
o yea, and oscar....how is he a known crybaby again?
yeah, i hate it when frazier is overlooked cause of ali/foreman, he was a great fighter....... for whoever reads this... does anyone know where i can buy a copy of thrilla in manila on vhs/dvd it dont matter, or does anyone have a copy they woul want to sell?
i dont think Frazier is overlooked at all...hes really a great fighter. Hes just not as great a fighter as Ali is...but I think if Frazier and Foreman faced each other again, I think Frazier will win it this time by desicion..
o yea, I do have a tape of the Thrilla in Manila but I dont think I want to sell the greatest match in the history of boxing...would you?
Here are my top ten:
1)Muhammad Ali...best boxer ever
2)Rocky Marciano...the most powerful boxer ever
3)Evander Holyfield...he beat tyson twice
4)Joe Louis...hes just a great boxer and a great person
5)Joe Frazier...hes smokin'
6)Manny Paquioa...fought a great fight with Morrales
7)Roy Jones Jr...He might be the best boxer next to Ali
8)Lenox Lewis...He beat Tyson so bad
9)Benard Hopkins...Best Middleweight ever
10)Jack Dempsey...One of the best heavyweights to ever live
Top 5 who I hate:
1)Tyson...for biting Holyfields ear off and being an ass for his whole career
2)James Toney...I dunno, I just dont like him. Maybe because the crowd always roots for him
3)Jermain Taylor...for beating Hopkins
4)George Foreman...i just dont like him
5)Morrales...for beating the pac-man
Yup, those are mine
I think leonard was overated, too many people thinking dancing around the ring is real fighting.
Well, the dancing in the ring worked for Ali....it also worked for Leonard in many fights as well.
Mike Tyson.....& it's Mike Tyson by a mile.
He took on super hero-like status, while being incredibly flawed.
He's the biggest frontrunner in the history of the sport....the furthest thing from a warrior or a bad ass.
He could be spectacular....but was NEVER unbeatable.
Couldn't have said it better myself...people are saying hes the greatest and the toughest boxer ever...i dont think so. He was soooo overrated!
Exactly, We'll here more crying on how he believes he won the fight. :rolleyes:
I know...he'll be complaining more than talking about the upcoming fights.
I know, Oscar cried like a baby after that mosley fight because he knew he should have beaten him...unlike Hopkins is complaining about a match that he should have lost but thinks he won.
i was 6 when that fight took place...so i dont really remember the time...but i still think it was teh biggest upset ever...
Werent all of Tysons loses upsets? lol
I know...whenever Tyson loses its like a spectacular thing.
Joe Louis and Chavez com to mind when this question is asked but I like both guys and I think with both of them Nationalism has a lot to do with it.
Joe Louis?? I dont think hes overrated. Hes one of the greatest boxers to ever box! I might be overrating him right now, heh.
If Hopkins ever wins another fight i'll be suprised, he needs to get out before he's 41 and with the opponents he's lined up he's likely to get beat.
Its a shame because Hopkins was once a great fighter who would have schooled Taylor and Winky.
yup, your right...if it was Hopkins in his prime, he would have cruised through both of them. But now, I think he'll get beat in both fights....hes just too old.
uuhh..i think the most overated boxer would be ..um...Lennox lewis that digga dint fight anyone good
Yea he did...he fought Tyson and Holyfield and beat them both...Why do alot of you guys think Lennox is overrated.
I think Hopkins will lose by desicion because of his age...if it was Hopkins in his prime, it would be an easy win for Benard.
Anyway, how old is Winky?
Non boxing fans think Ali is boxing, thats just overated for a perfect boxer never mind someone i dont consider to be that brilliant. the only boxing videos you can buy in UK shops are Ali related, it fucking sucks, they should realise he retired already.
Who's your top heavy of all time??
My top heavyweight of all time is ali...i mean, look at my username!