Some favor the classics, others pick the more recent but it really is a question of who is or was the greatest fighter of all time. Some may argue that Sugar Ray Robinson dominated in his time, he made it big and dominated the 40's 50's and some of the 60's containing a record of 175-19 (fairly impressive i believe). Others may argue that Rocky Marciano should hold that place as history's greatest with an astonishing record of 49-0. There may even be others who come close to this sort of glory but only one sticks out in my mind, Muhammad Ali. Ali is the greatest thing that ever happened to boxing, he's strategic, cocky, inteligent, used a cool head and a fast heart and even if he felt like shit still faught with a smile on his face just to make the other contendor feel intimidated. Many may be disscouraged that im even stating this, that im expressing my views on this but i dont believe im wrong. Try and prove me wrong, who is better than Ali? aubviously nobody.
Hard for me to respect that opinion. Hamed couldn't balance himself well. Hamed is what u would call a lucky fighter because the guy simply couldn't box for shit. He defense sux His Jab sux His Chin Sux Stamina Alright Speed Alright Power Good ring Smart HE WAS STUPID atleast his ring entrance gets a 10/10 along with his trash talking
While saying Naz was the greatest ever is even more ridiculous than your post, your post was pretty ridiculous as well. Lucky? LOL, was Roy Jones lucky as well?
His chin sucks? Really, is that why he was never even close to out in his whole career? His balance is what sucked against higher competition because of his ridiculously unorthodox style, and it is also what caused so many KD's against him. His chin was far from sucky. His defense was very evasive, but technically was not that good, and it showed against higher comp. He had awesome power and explosiveness, and a lot of what he had was in his gusto and aura. He knew he would destroy the opponent, and his style was so difficult to figure out and his power so dangerous the opponent was sometimes forced to go into a shell.
His work ethic and ego was his downfall.
Some favor the classics, others pick the more recent but it really is a question of who is or was the greatest fighter of all time. Some may argue that Sugar Ray Robinson dominated in his time, he made it big and dominated the 40's 50's and some of the 60's containing a record of 175-19 (fairly impressive i believe). Others may argue that Rocky Marciano should hold that place as history's greatest with an astonishing record of 49-0. There may even be others who come close to this sort of glory but only one sticks out in my mind, Muhammad Ali. Ali is the greatest thing that ever happened to boxing, he's strategic, cocky, inteligent, used a cool head and a fast heart and even if he felt like shit still faught with a smile on his face just to make the other contendor feel intimidated. Many may be disscouraged that im even stating this, that im expressing my views on this but i dont believe im wrong. Try and prove me wrong, who is better than Ali? aubviously nobody.
Only a complete moron would argue Marciano, the fact that you even have him in your post says something about you.
Robinson ranks #1 for me, Ali #4. Greb and Armstrong rank above Ali.
You could also make arguments for many others, I've seen some rank Ali outside the top 10 as far as P4P goes.
A young 21 year old Naz Hamed was the greatest p4p fighter the world had ever seen.
Hamed SUCKED...............his name doesn't even belong in this thread, unless it's a joke.
A young 21 year old Naz Hamed was the greatest p4p fighter the world had ever seen.
i always wondered who naz's fav fighter was,he was so fuckin unorthodoxed.
Sugar Ray Robinson. It's not the "in" crowds popular choice.
It just is.
It might a be a little "generic".
But in his prime, I would put SRR against anybody at 140-160 range.
Hagler vs. SRR would be my dream fight.
Wake up and smell the coffee...
Nobody, there is only a greatest fighter at a given time at a given weight.....Earth to yrrej: Ever heard the terms "all time" and "pound for pound?"
Bullshit Dictector
All Time: Sugar Ray Robinson
Current Time: Floyd MayweatherYou're contradicting yourself! "All time" means all time, including current time. You can't have it both ways, pal. Besides, you know damn well that deep down you really think Floyd's better than Sugar Ray...
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henry armstrong is second only to srr, he's not even on your listHave you ever heard the expression "different strokes for different folks?" I listed the first 10 I could remember off the top of my head without any research whatsoever. Henry Armstrong is a legend (simultaneous multiple titles) and easily could have made my list had I remebered him before.
Nobody, there is only a greatest fighter at a given time at a given weight.....
I hear you! That about sums it right up!!!
If boxing were to be extinct....then maybe you can tally it up. Just like first there was "Doctor J", then along came Michael Jordan...now it's Kobe...up next...Lebron James. And his diapers soon to pass them all...baby AIRBORNE!
records were meant to be broken, and these kids are faster, stronger than when we were growing up.
It's gotta be the SIMILAC!!!
Rocky Marciano.....why you even asking? I would agree, BUT he said " fighter "...not boxer, so I say
1) Bruce Lee
2) Chuck norris
3)..........ROCKY/TYSON/LEWIS/DEMPSY/FRAZIER ( A 5 way tie ):banana:
My List:
1. Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Joe Lewis
4. Muhammad Ali
5. Willie Pep
6. Roberto Duran
7. Benny Leonard
8. Archie Moore
9. Jack Johnson
10. Jack Dempsey
11. Rocky Marciano
12. Ray Leonard
13. George Foreman
14. Barney Ross
15. Mike Tyson
Give this guy an award...
wow what an original thread. Thanks for creating a topic for the 1000000th time about who the G.O.A.T. is beeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
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Sugar Ray Robinson
Joe Louis
Muhammad Ali
Rocky Marciano
Mike Tyson
Roberto Duran
Sugar Ray Leonard
Julio Cesar Chavez
Larry Holmes
Carlos Monzon
*In their prime
henry armstrong is second only to srr, he's not even on your list
I'm too young to have watched Ali fight but I've seen many out of shape bums tagging him with shots in the ESPN Classic fights for him to be considered the greatest.
Maybe it is because the veto they imposed on him for not going to war prevented him from fighting on his prime but at least what I've seen of him aside from the Joe Louis trilogy doesn't merit him being even considered as the best boxer ever.