I think Roy Jones will win this, he does have power let's not forget and the last thing to leave a fighter is his punch, I take Roy Jones by late TKO.
holy crap....i am swaying for jones to lose and Juy's picking roy to win...hell must have frozen over... :D
I am surprised that as many people are taking Roy as the poll suggests...he didn't only get dropped in his last two fights, he was ko'd....I don't think Roy has the chin anymore...he should get out before he gets hurt...I will be blown away if he wins this
Still not even close. Not even in the same arena.
I agree
and that wont happen, so dont worry about it, it wont happen.
I want rjj to win this fight. He is one of my favorite boxers, but when i discuss this fight, i get a queasy feeling in my stomach, because i think he is going to lose, and bad. Hopefully though, he can pull it together and beat tarver by ud or late ko
one time for rjj
Right. Picture this.
IFS.
If Roy beats Tarver....then rematches Johnson and beats him.....THEN Unifies the Cruiserweight belts by beating Mormeck (which he would with relative ease) OR Moves up to heavyweight and outclasses Chris Byrd.
He is the greatest fighter of all time IMO.
yes, better than Sugar Ray or Muhammad Ali.
Still not even close. Not even in the same arena.
roy gets no love, he has accomplished more than any fighter of our generation yet fighters like dlh, hopkins, toney or tito get far more respect. its kind of sad but we'll see what people have to say about him in ten years, imo people will begin to appreciate what he has done for the sport
Right. Picture this.
IFS.
If Roy beats Tarver....then rematches Johnson and beats him.....THEN Unifies the Cruiserweight belts by beating Mormeck (which he would with relative ease) OR Moves up to heavyweight and outclasses Chris Byrd.
He is the greatest fighter of all time IMO.
yes, better than Sugar Ray or Muhammad Ali.
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Thats my damn point exactly. If he does that, he is a tough bastard.
True but Tarver never fights all the way through any given round.
Anyways, I think Tarver will win by a stoppage or a KO once again. My heart is with Roy, but my brain is with Tarver. Roy lost his speed, he lost his reflexes, and he lost his heart.
I know we'd all like to think that Roy can get back in shape and make a big comeback, but I'd just like to point ou to another guy who relied heavily on his reflexes and speed...The greatest of all time, Muhammad Ali. Everyone gets old. Ali got old, Tyson got old, Roy got old, and even Hopkins will get old eventually. These guys are all fighting time as much as they are their respective opponents.
I'm not saying he doesn't have a chance here, but I am saying that history is not on his side in this one. Unless he gets some of that George Foreman miracle magic.
yeah thats a catch. People who dont like Roy say these things, and rate people he owned higher.
Like Woods, Toney, Hopkins, and always try and find somebody who "could have beat him" in his prime. Like Michaelsveski. I laugh out loud at that nonsense, but moreso at people dogging the greatest fighter of our generation.
roy gets no love, he has accomplished more than any fighter of our generation yet fighters like dlh, hopkins, toney or tito get far more respect. its kind of sad but we'll see what people have to say about him in ten years, imo people will begin to appreciate what he has done for the sport
btw ive noticed a lot of people critizing jones for taking a big risk, arent these the same guys(not all of them) who said roy didnt fight nobody and never took a chance? roy cant never catch a break...
yeah thats a catch. People who dont like Roy say these things, and rate people he owned higher.
Like Woods, Toney, Hopkins, and always try and find somebody who "could have beat him" in his prime. Like Michaelsveski. I laugh out loud at that nonsense, but moreso at people dogging the greatest fighter of our generation.
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And on that subject. WHY THE FUCK DID ROY HAVE TO DODGE ANYONE? He faced mandatory challengers for HIS FUCKING BELTS.
All five hundred of them.
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i think roy does have motivation issues. honestly y would would he take this fight.... only one thing comes to mind... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
tarver i say by ud, jus roughs up roy all night
i hope tarver DOES train properly... and that jones doesn't get seroiusly hurt.
even if RJJ wins, he aint going to last long man
Thats my damn point exactly. If he does that, he is a tough bastard.
no doubt. Me too, although Im leaning towards Tarver winning.
iam kind of hesitant in picking jones as well but tarver is gettin up in years as well and didnt look that sharp in his fights with glen
btw ive noticed a lot of people critizing jones for taking a big risk, arent these the same guys(not all of them) who said roy didnt fight nobody and never took a chance? roy cant never catch a break...
Tarver will win all he has to do is let his hands go,
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Thats my damn point exactly. If he does that, he is a tough bastard.
im backing roy 100%
no doubt. Me too, although Im leaning towards Tarver winning.
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I think its a psychological thing with these 2.
Tarver was scared of Roy in both fights, he can say anything he wants but you could see Tarver's fear. If he has overcome this after his KO win over Roy then Tarver will win all he has to do is let his hands go,
If he hasnt Roy will once again rack up the points and will look like their first fight with Tarver so afraid ROy was gonna explode he let roy steal the rounds from under him.
rjj wins this fight .......i know he got koed 2 times in a row but i feel he had lost the love for the sport and was unmotivated especially in the johnson fight he looked like he did not want to be there now that he has been away for a while he has that love back and i think that will be the difference ...nobody has been able to beat a motivated rjj he gets vendication in this fight ..
In all honesty I think Manny Steward said it best when he made the comment that Tarver would give Roy problems at any stage in his career. Tarver has an excellent defense and a pretty solid chin. But most of all, like Roy, he's a natural counter-puncher.
I lean towards Tarver in the 3rd fight. At this point in their careers I just think Antonio is the better fighter and his style is kryptonite for Roy. Especially the 2005 Roy.
I do give Roy all the respect in the world for coming back to take this fight but I'm not sure I really want him to.
Just for the sake of voting I chose Tarver. This is a 50/50 fight and there should be no clear favorite. I only lean towards Tarver because of his activity level in the last fight against Johnson. If he fights like that, then he will end up catching RJJ at some point in the fight.
Minus all the weight, inactivity, and reflexes issues...Jones still has a chance to win this fight no matter what people think. Even a 70% Roy still has the skill to beat anyone around, and lets not forget he isint dead yet.
To be perfectly honest though......NOBODY is going to beat Tarver if he fights at the pace he did last time. Just look at what he does to people in rematches when he is motivated..
Harding fight = complete inactivity
Jones 1 = complete inactivity
Johnson 1 = complete inactivity
Harding 2 = Stalker and active
Jones 2 = Stalker
Johnson 2 = More active and traded more.
That shit is no game son. He lets his hands go....he wins. If he tries to ONLY stalk Roy and land a big shot.....Roy wins.
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