Ortiz > Hatton
Ortiz would get beat by the Manchester Mexican, Ricky is more Mexican then Victor. and Manny would beat them all:boxing::boxing::boxing:
its been mentioned a few times earlier.. pavlik should avoid guys with speed.. pavlik was losing to jermain in their 1st fight before he scored the ko, and i thought he lost the 2nd fight.. Dawson has more speed than Pavlik, he's a little more technical, he's a southpaw, and he's probably stronger than Pavlik having consistantly fought at higher weights than Pavlik.. Even though Pavlik has had 3 or 4 fights at 170, Bhop wasnt his 1st at 170.. its a bad matchup for Kelly.. he should stick to fighting guys like Rubio
I like how you try to completely discredit Pavliks wins over Taylor as if he didn't knock him out and then to prove it wasn't a fluke, rematch Taylor at the weight his camp wanted. You are just a hater.
I think Pavlik was winning the whole first fight against taylor save for round where Pavlik got floored. The scorecards defended the current champion at the time but Pavlik was effectively using his jab and straight right to set the pace.
The score cards for the first Pavlik-Taylor fight were a joke. Lederman had it right. Kelly was lucky he knocked Taylor out because they would of robbed him. As for the second fight, Taylor gassed and in the last two rounds which cost him the bout. I don't how any Taylor fan can complain about a decision when Jermain was gifted about three of them.
watch the roy jones beyond the glory.I just watched it last night on youtube.his athleticism and relexes were the result of hard training as a boy
his father would make him spar guys with one hand tied behind his back
That kind of freakish athleticism isn't just some god given talent.Nothing is
Roys father used to beat him into shape, similar to what Floyd Senior did to his son. These fighters may make it seem as if it was all effortless but the truth is they worked to some degree even harder than most fighters.
The man didn't have a chance to win and was getting pounded...there was no point to continue.
He was crying saying "No more No more" It was embarrassing, he could of just stood in there for one more round and got knocked out but instead he cried for his corner to stop the fight.
Whats the point of continuing if your gonna get knocked out???
To give the fans what they want to see, Pavlik could of easily quit in his fight Bernard but he took the beating for the whole and still wanted to get some more. That is why Hopkins respects Kelly so much.
I think Toney was definately affected by the weight, but I wouldn't have called him 'drained'.
Noone who has ever fought at 168 would have beaten Roy that night. End of.
Have you heard of a man named Joe Calzotke?
Roy's best win. James was unbeaten in over 40 fights, the p4p second highest rated fighter in the world and the number one guy at SMW. Toney was also favourite for the fight I believe. Although I thin James' weight problems on the night are a little overstated, it is not Roy's problem. Great win for Roy.
I agree......
Look, we all know what the problem was. Jack Leow was saying double up the jab over and over again.. That wasn't working and Leow didn't have a plan B. So, if Jack can adjust his strategy and tell Kelly to quadruple up the jab. Kelly UD or late stoppage.
"Touch him in the balls Kelly" "Then double jab him in the nuts again"
Leow is hall of fame bound:ugh1:
Look, if yelling "Double Up The Jab!!" repeatedly doesn't work.. Start dropping F-Bombs. If the F-Bombs don't work then you're pretty much fucd.
They didn't even have a plan A never mind a plan B.
I felt bad for Kelly, he looked lost in there with no guidance from his corner.
look ppl said the same thing about taylor. and taylor beat hopkins twice, it all depends on which hopkins shows up, the calzaghe-tarver-pavlik Hopkins yea but the jermain taylor type hopkins would not beat pavlik in a rematch. remember bernard is 43 going 44 hes not gonna be a super human for ever
You are insane..... I would tell you to stick to boxing instead of commenting on it but we all know how that turned out.
Im sorry dude. But once you sign with Golden boy promotions you don't fight duds. Its time to face it. Big fights are ahead for him.
I think Mundine would beat Pavlik by UD, maybe even late stoppage
If a dogs born in a stable does it make it a horse???
He grew up in wales all his life, he speaks with a welsh accent, he flys the welsh flag with pride, and sings the anthem with pride. hes welsh.
Sounds like a redneck phrase to me:peeright:
If a Doggy is boreen in a staabel dose that make it a horese, Yall?
Gatti is a member of the FBI, full blooded Italians. He was born in Italy and so were both his parents, but they moved to Montreal when he was young.
I am a Federal Breast Inspector:peeright:
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The women in your avatar needs to be investigated!
You eat dogs you sick cunt :puke:
Pacman will eat your British Bulldog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Pavlik was enroute to getting robbed for sure. I still have Dawson as a very bad fight for Pavlik.
Chad would kill him, it would look worse than the Hopkins fight because he would be stopped. That still doesn't mean "he should stick to fighting Rubios".
Pavlik vs Hatton
at 160
in Youngstown
let's have a booing contest...The Limey Scumbags vs The Classless Midwest Hicks
That Pavlik-Rubio fight atmosphere was amazing even without the marching band...