confiscated wraps:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2009/02/11/evidence_bag.jpg
pictures from his fight against cotto:
http://www.aww-kittah-aww.com/up/public/51018/24limwz.jpg
http://www.aww-kittah-aww.com/up/public/51017/box_a_margarito1_sw_sq_300.jpg
notice the same blood stain on all of them, so he was using the same wraps against cotto that he tried to use against mosley
EDIT:
the source of the evidence comes from the LA Times
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2009/02/antonio-margari.html
if people have died by getting hit by nothing but 8 oz. gloves in the ring.. what makes you think that plaster wont severly increase the potential of serious damage?
anyway, what does it matter how much he used or didn't use? the point is he cheated.
there is no way around that. the facts are he tried to cheat against Mosley, it could have been a little piece of card board or a brick.. it didn't belong there.
Mmm-hmm. I'm sure there are some fights on youtube where it shows gruesome fights were the fighter is just laid out and then died afterwards. I don't remember which ones they were...off the top of my head (as accurately as I can describe them):
In a fight from before the 50's or 40's, there was a fighter who got trapped in the corner, grabbed on to the ropes, and his opponent just absolutely flurried...the ref (since stoppages weren't as immediate as they are today) let the battering continue, despite the fact that the cornered man was completely out on his feet. He must've got hit 8-10 times AFTER you could tell he was already out. He died later on...
Duk-Koo Kim vs. Mancini...the cause of eliminating 15 rounders.
And there was another fight (from 80's or 90's) where a fighter got clipped with a single shot, went down, laid out, and started moving his right arm in a repetitive motion. The title of the video on youtube is something like: "Boxer keeps fighting in his dreams" or something like that. As tactless as the attempt of humor was from the uploader of that video, the guy who was KO'd I believe died later on.
Oscar Diaz(?)...the fighter that was stopped when he started mumbling incoherently in the middle of the rounds, sent to a hospital and slipped into a coma.
I'm sure there are several other fights where people have died or been seriously injured...and those are from normal gloves, imagine the potential that a padded glove can have.
Wow, you motherfuckers are still with this shit?? lol
And I thought my little niece was a crybaby. Some people need to let shit go, seriously. *points at Cotto Nuthuggers*
seriously...and why didn't Cotto just knock out Margo to begin with....
Just have them fight again and stfu...Im not saying that Margarito cheated or didn't cheat against Cotto..he could have...but there is no proof...
the best thing to do is just have a rematch...wich Cotto fans don't want.
i told u on the other thread. the guy that checked margarito's wraps on that fight was Evangelista's assitant and was the first time that he check some wraps. the guy that is the expert from cotto's camp was on another fight.
So the expert was another fight...?? O.K. that makes sense..
That's one of the funniest things I've ever read on boxingscene
WRONG! That definitely didn't happen. That would be a waste of a blood test.
That's impossible. I saw the fight when Cotto went up and hugged Margarito. They didn't touch hands, nor was Cotto's face bloody at the time since they wiped it with a towel. Margarito didn't say to him "oh you got some blood left over on your face, let me clean it off with my hand-wrap."
The only way that thing got bloody is if he cut his hand up pretty bad and it bled through, which is very possible- it happens to me sometimes when I box if I land an awkward punch and the wrap rubs against my knuckles, although my wraps aren't as good as a pro's.
true, you never know though but margarito did throw a shit load of punches. i think that the suspension was thrown in to punish the margarito camp and to cover the CSAC's incompetance. if he did get away with cheating than cotto,williams,clottey, and cintron should fire thier trainers as well. interesting that they would try to cheat in front of a paranoid ass person like richardson? well, i am not margarito so i cant answer those tought questions.
Two basic pretty obvious well known things;
Officials checked Margarito's wraps for the Mosley fight and signed them off as fine. Then hard substances were found on them, one official wouldn't credit this, and someone else had to come in to help seize the wraps.
It isn't some random guy, if you read it's the LA times, and other sources. There's numerous legit photo's of all the fights all over the net and this thread links to another collating just some.
co-sign....:cool2:
the nerve of margarito using the same pad also!...damn.. they could've at least made him a new plaster... the same plaster just keeps making it harder n harder..
Whats all the commotion its just a spot of blood an another spot of blood. :firedevil
the nerve of margarito using the same pad also!...damn.. they could've at least made him a new plaster... the same plaster just keeps making it harder n harder..
The people who aggree that these are the same wraps as used in the Cotto fight are clueless.
And would suck as detectives.
The wraps in the Cotto fight look to have a huge blood stain.
The wraps cought before the Mosley fight has a much smaller stain.
confiscated wraps:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2009/02/11/evidence_bag.jpg
pictures from his fight against cotto:
http://www.aww-kittah-aww.com/up/public/51018/24limwz.jpg
http://www.aww-kittah-aww.com/up/public/51017/box_a_margarito1_sw_sq_300.jpg
notice the same blood stain on all of them, so he was using the same wraps against cotto that he tried to use against mosley
EDIT:
the source of the evidence comes from the LA Times
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2009/02/antonio-margari.html
You put a picture up of a pad and then a picture of margarito's tape. :thinking:
It's like showing you bloodstain on a knife when the person was murdered with a gun. How does this pic prove anything? It's not eve a picture of the same thing. Damn some of you guys are fools.
The hottest thread of the day, then the one time I decide to comment on boxingscene, everyone leaves. Feels like high school when i'd show up, all the popular ppl would scat. WTF? Am I that uncool on here?:wtf:
I'm telling you guys, but none of you belive me, you think I'm crazy. But there is a pictire of Margarito's blood soaked handwraps, laying right on Julio Ceasar Chavez's shoulder, with the Solo Boxeo crew celebrating his win. So, my theory comes out as
1.before the fight, Julio Cesar Chavez gave Antnio Margarito a voodoo banada he used in one of his Puerto Rico vs Mexico bout, to wore off evil spirits, and bring him victory, Months before he fought Miguel.
2.Both Antonio Margarito and Miguel Cotto were brought up on Mexican television program, run by Mexicans, called Solo Boxeo. For backing a cheater like Margarito, just to get a win over Miguel, they had to change station to Azteck America to uncover their hidden agenda. Miguel had gotten friendly with Solo Boxeo, calling it "his home" and this happened to him, and he gave Margarito oppertuinties, he wouldnt had, if otherwise not for Solo Boxeo
3. None figured out Margarito had Plaster of Paris, not Solo Boxeo, not Miguel Cotto, nor Julo Sesar Chavez, only someone out the group, Shane Mosley, and Golden Bo.y
which concludes everyone is in on it, and Margarito is used to hand-me-downs aka used stuff
Don't stain the name of the Great Julio Cesar Chavez with you stupid conspiracy theories.
God dam you are retarded your shit doesn't even make sense.
And Solo Boxeo is not a Mexican television program, it is a Hispanic boxing show.
Third how would JCC know about Margarito's plaster if he's not his trainer.
Your shit is an epic FAIL.
I'm telling you guys, but none of you belive me, you think I'm crazy. But there is a pictire of Margarito's blood soaked handwraps, laying right on Julio Ceasar Chavez's shoulder, with the Solo Boxeo crew celebrating his win. So, my theory comes out as
1.before the fight, Julio Cesar Chavez gave Antnio Margarito a voodoo banada he used in one of his Puerto Rico vs Mexico bout, to wore off evil spirits, and bring him victory, Months before he fought Miguel.
2.Both Antonio Margarito and Miguel Cotto were brought up on Mexican television program, run by Mexicans, called Solo Boxeo. For backing a cheater like Margarito, just to get a win over Miguel, they had to change station to Azteck America to uncover their hidden agenda. Miguel had gotten friendly with Solo Boxeo, calling it "his home" and this happened to him, and he gave Margarito oppertuinties, he wouldnt had, if otherwise not for Solo Boxeo
3. None figured out Margarito had Plaster of Paris, not Solo Boxeo, not Miguel Cotto, nor Julo Sesar Chavez, only someone out the group, Shane Mosley, and Golden Bo.y
which concludes everyone is in on it, and Margarito is used to hand-me-downs aka used stuff
Are you saying Chavez did the same thing in his heyday?
which concludes everyone is in on it, and Margarito is used to hand-me-downs aka used stuff
Are you saying Chavez did the same thing in his heyday as Margo?
Im sure its an advantage. But people are acting like its enough to kill someone.
In my eyes thats no where enough to kill a fighter, it would have to be several times thicker.
But it gives more damage.
pictures clarly show the wraps are the same, an investigation should be in place.
Is very clear that this wraps are the same, we cannot blind ourselves in our emotions, because we prefer a boxer over another, this have nothing to do with preference, but with been honest, i beleive an investigation should take place, the state DA mention that before, we cannot let this guy run away with his ilegal practices, cotto fight with margarito seems to me should be declare no contest inmediatly.
Im sure its an advantage. But people are acting like its enough to kill someone.
In my eyes thats no where enough to kill a fighter, it would have to be several times thicker.
http://brassknuckles.org/images/brass_knuckles/brass_knuckles_250x251.jpg
That's not thick either..but I bet it'll knock any muthafucker out!!..
Now I'm not comparing it to brass knuckles..I'm comparing it to the size as you say it would need to be much bigger..it's not impossible..and that alone could give anyone an advantage..especially a professional boxer..who actually KNOWS how to CONNECT!..
Im sure its an advantage. But people are acting like its enough to kill someone.
In my eyes thats no where enough to kill a fighter, it would have to be several times thicker.
if people have died by getting hit by nothing but 8 oz. gloves in the ring.. what makes you think that plaster wont severly increase the potential of serious damage?
anyway, what does it matter how much he used or didn't use? the point is he cheated.
there is no way around that. the facts are he tried to cheat against Mosley, it could have been a little piece of card board or a brick.. it didn't belong there.