yeah but what he is saying is that some boxers are programmed to step in with a commanding jab, thats good but a smart fighter is also programmed to deal with a commanding jab. If juan diaz changed up his speed and feinted a lot more, marquez would have had a harder time countering that.
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Stepping in with your jab can be dangerous - Juan Manuel Marquez Educates Juan Diaz
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Here's my two cents:
The JMM-Diaz vid reiterated what I already know (or think I know). When a fighter throws (and steps in) with a "lazy jab" then his opponent has an opportunity to counter over top with a straight right hand. We've seen it in boxing a hundreds of times. A fighter doesn't throw the jab with enough conviction and snap; or, when jabbing, the fighter brings back his hand and arm too low and allows the counter punch.
When I practice my jab I always "step" even if I'm not moving around. I throw the jab fast and bring it back to my defensive stance quickly. To me, it's about executing the motion of this punch at all times even when you're exhausted and want a break. In the video, it looked like Juan Diaz was tired and beat up a little and he made the mistake of throwing it lazily and not bringing it back to his face to defend against the counter.
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Originally posted by BostonGuy View PostHere's my two cents:
The JMM-Diaz vid reiterated what I already know (or think I know). When a fighter throws (and steps in) with a "lazy jab" then his opponent has an opportunity to counter over top with a straight right hand. We've seen it in boxing a hundreds of times. A fighter doesn't throw the jab with enough conviction and snap; or, when jabbing, the fighter brings back his hand and arm too low and allows the counter punch.
When I practice my jab I always "step" even if I'm not moving around. I throw the jab fast and bring it back to my defensive stance quickly. To me, it's about executing the motion of this punch at all times even when you're exhausted and want a break. In the video, it looked like Juan Diaz was tired and beat up a little and he made the mistake of throwing it lazily and not bringing it back to his face to defend against the counter.
I agree with your assessment of the fight but I don't agree you need to step in with your jab every time you throw it.
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Originally posted by Rockin' View Posteven if he hadn't stepped in he was going to get hit, he was timed perfectly.
honestly, not stepping in with a jab means you have nothing on it, just arm. If you are going to attack generally it will start with stepping in to range at some point.
every punch that can be thrown can have dangerous consequences whether you step in or not. Especially when timed like that.
I call spam........... Rockin'
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Originally posted by Rockin' View PostI'm not certain how to throw a jab, I just heard the term for the first time just last week.
Please do tell how you get leverage on a jab while moving backwards without breaking the momentum backwards, Einstein would be scratching his head at that comment....... Rockin'
If you cant do that without stepping in you just dont have much of a jab. To be fair i have very long arms which helps me get leverage on the jab. I really just have to snap it from the shoulder to get someones attention. If i pivot slightly with the lead foot and turn my hips a bit even while moving backwards i get off a good jab.
But again my jab is wicked. I buckled people several times when i do step in with it. Being that its so good i dont need full leverage on it to make an impact. If you have a **** jab to begin with you might not be able to do that though, you might have to step in all the way to get something respectable off
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