Corrales-Castillo 1: STOP SAYING CORRALES CHEATED!!!!

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  • Knicksman20
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    #41
    Originally posted by PRboxingfan
    That is the most flawed logic I've seen in a while. How can you cheat within the confines of the rules? Oh, maybe on opposite day, I guess.

    To cheat you have to break the rules. Some rules are enforced more strictly than others (like if you were to kick the other fighter in the nuts, for instance) but it doesn't mean that one is more breakable than the other. Both actions (kicking in the nuts and spitting out your mouthpiece) are illegal. One will get a point deducted and the other will get you DQ'd, fined, and probably suspended. Both actions, if done to gain an advantage would be cheating.
    The point is Corrales didn't cheat. He was within the cofines of the rules & was penalized accordingly. Like in soccer when a player gets a yellow card for tripping when trying to "go for the ball". You can't compare what JLC did to what Corrales did & that's where your logic is flawed.

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    • Deeznuts
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      #42
      Ok well one cheated inside the ring (Castillo didn't know Corrales was going to keep spitting out the mouth piece) and one kowingly cheated ( Corrales knew Castillo was OW a day before the fight) outside the ring. They still fought and they're even, end of argument.

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      • HendrixLove
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        #43
        Originally posted by Left2body
        Its simple. Castillo weighted in at 138.5lbs and 139.5lbs an athlete knows when he is on weight and when he is off weight. A professional athlete knows when he might not make weight.

        Both times he chose to keep this secret and the first time his team even tried to manipulate the scales. This to me shows premeditation.

        Corrales's issue at the very worst was a heat of battle.

        Its not comparable.
        Oh it's not comparable...?????? So it was ok what Corrales did because it was in the heat of battle, man what the **** is that all about, I'm seeing signs of nutthugging on this one... Corrales bended the rules which is cheating so I don't know why you belive it's any different than what Castillo did. What Castillo did was a completely different situation but both were aimed at helping them win the fight.

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        • HendrixLove
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          #44
          Originally posted by Knicksman20
          The point is Corrales didn't cheat. He was within the cofines of the rules & was penalized accordingly. Like in soccer when a player gets a yellow card for tripping when trying to "go for the ball". You can't compare what JLC did to what Corrales did & that's where your logic is flawed.
          Your joking right? Yeah I guess with your logic, we'd have alot more people doing the same thing Corrales did.....then if I was a fighter i'd have more things to plan when working my game plan like if im ever in trouble, I'll low blow my opponents as much as I can till I get a waring of disqualification(same with mouth spitting).......... If you see it like that with Corrales then you should see the same for Castillo, Castillo paid for his **** up by losing his title shot. I can't belive people actually see that Corrales move as an act or bravery instead of cheating........... So if a poor man was desperate for money ,robbed a bank and got away with it you'd look at it as an act of bravery for himself? I'm trying to give you another example that dosen't have the name Corrales cause you seem to being holding on his nuts alittle to much.
          Last edited by HendrixLove; 09-15-2006, 02:19 PM.

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          • BigmoneyMikes
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            #45
            what Chico did was no diff than a fighter taking a knee to buy some time. he gave up a point to get the KO. coming into a fight over weight however is a deff matter.

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              #46
              I have an idea, why doesn't every boxer who gets knocked down just spit his mouth piece out to get some extra recovery time? I mean, if you are going to lose a point due to a knock down anyway, you may as well lose an extra one for the purpose of recovering.

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                #47
                Originally posted by BigmoneyMikes
                what Chico did was no diff than a fighter taking a knee to buy some time. he gave up a point to get the KO. coming into a fight over weight however is a deff matter.
                When you take a knee it counts as a knockdown and you only get a 10 count. Corrales was knocked down and spit his mouth piece in order to get more time than just the 10 seconds.
                Last edited by HendrixLove; 09-15-2006, 02:25 PM.

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                • HendrixLove
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                  #48
                  I guess I can go out and murder people as long as I pay the consequences if I get caught...........

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                  • Left2body
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by FibreOptic
                    I have an idea, why doesn't every boxer who gets knocked down just spit his mouth piece out to get some extra recovery time? I mean, if you are going to lose a point due to a knock down anyway, you may as well lose an extra one for the purpose of recovering.
                    If I had to choose between giving my opponent 10-15 seconds extra when he is knocked down or me be allowed to weight-in at a division above my opponent I will take the latter.

                    I can't believe you guys are holding spitting out a mouth piece as equivalent to hidding the fact that you are coming into a fight 1 division over your opponent.

                    Spitting a mouth piece out gives Corrales momentary respite. Castillo coming in at a different weight class gives him an enormous competitive advantage.

                    If you can't see the difference then logic obviously plays no role in your assesment.

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                    • Knicksman20
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by HendrixLove
                      Your joking right? Yeah I guess with your logic, we'd have alot more people doing the same thing Corrales did.....then if I was a fighter i'd have more things to plan when working my game plan like if im ever in trouble, I'll low blow my opponents as much as I can till I get a waring of disqualification(same with mouth spitting).......... If you see it like that with Corrales then you should see the same for Castillo, Castillo paid for his **** up by losing his title shot. I can't belive people actually see that Corrales move as an act or bravery instead of cheating........... So if a poor man was desperate for money ,robbed a bank and got away with it you'd look at it as an act of bravery for himself? I'm trying to give you another example that dosen't have the name Corrales cause you seem to being holding on his nuts alittle to much.
                      Just like you doing chin-ups on JLC's sack right? There's no reasoning with you; just look at your avatar & that sums up your opinion. You need to remove JLC's scrotum from your face & look at the facts. Your boy got KTFO & you're still chewing on sour g****s. His doctor tried to cheat for him & Corrales spitting out his mouth piece is comparable? I'm not even a fan of Corrales like that but I can see your man crush on JLC. You have to look at all of the other great fighters that have done similiar acts ti buy time: Ali with the ripping of his glove, Trinidad hitting Vargas below the belt to buy time because he was hurt bad, many more that have spit out their mouth pieces to buy time.

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