Corrales-Castillo 1: STOP SAYING CORRALES CHEATED!!!!

[Left2body]

No matter what, Corrales took the fight and his promoter even made a bet with Castillo that he wouldn't win. He knew the risk and he took it.

That's like me being in race and you giving me a .5 mile advantage. If you take it and you loose I still win fair and square. It's not my fault you taught you that much faster and decided to take the race.

You make it sound a lot simpler than it is. First off you have a lot of pressure from the promoters and fans to still put on a show.

Secondly he doesn't recieve a paycheck if he refuses to fight. He might receive some compensation through litigation but that takes years. In the mean time he has to pay his mortage, bills, training expenses.

Also irregardless of his still fighting or not Castillo's team attempted to put there foot under the scale. However by your form of logic that isn't cheating because Corrales fought anyway?

[Left2body]

BTW Corrales outweighed Castillo on fight night.

That doesn't matter, its the amount of weight you have to lose.....DAMN that argument is the worst one out of all the Castillo arguments.

[Knicksman20]

That doesn't matter, its the amount of weight you have to lose.....DAMN that argument is the worst one out of all the Castillo arguments.

I know & it wasn't muscle that Corrales added; it was water weight from rehydrating.

[Deeznuts]

The truth is Corrales thought he could beat Castillo no matter the circumstances. He even weighed more than him at fight night to try to have an advantage. He should've just sued Castillo if he is that broke. You're telling me all the pressure and money issues made him do it? Corrales should be well off and ready to fight again just like he did for their third fight. Castillo outlanded him and outclassed him throughout their whole second fight and gave him a one-sided beating. It's even until they meet for the third time ( if there is a 3rd time)

[HendrixLove]

That doesn't matter, its the amount of weight you have to lose.....DAMN that argument is the worst one out of all the Castillo arguments.

Cheating is cheating....Corrales mouth piece slipped out his hand....???? lol, you can see he opened his glove from the reply and Corrales trainer was not ready with the mouth piece the second time Corrales dropped it in order to give his fighter more time. It's lame to me how ****ers can say what Corrales did was ok but what Castillo did was somehow way worse than what Corrales did. How is that? Castillo did struggle to make weight, you guy's act as if Castillo was around 143 or 144 on thursday before the weigh-in, He was about 137 on thrusday leading up to the fight like the 3rd one also but gained pounds due to losing too much weight in a certain amount of time and that's what happens. It's was the teams mis calculation, you guy's act as if Castillo didn't put any effort into losing weight.

[PRboxingfan]

The difference between the "cheating" Corrales did was it was within the confines of the rules. An infration occured & a point was deducted. JLC on the other hand had a doctor use his foot to alter his weight; knowingly or unknowingly & that's cheating.

That is the most flawed logic I've seen in a while. How can you cheat within the confines of the rules? Oh, maybe on opposite day, I guess.

To cheat you have to break the rules. Some rules are enforced more strictly than others (like if you were to kick the other fighter in the nuts, for instance) but it doesn't mean that one is more breakable than the other. Both actions (kicking in the nuts and spitting out your mouthpiece) are illegal. One will get a point deducted and the other will get you DQ'd, fined, and probably suspended. Both actions, if done to gain an advantage would be cheating.

[jai mari078]

Thurthfully saying if castillo won the fight it wouldnt be exciting.

Castillo fans should thank Corrales for making the fight exciting

A guy was down twice as well as point deduction when the fight was pretty close. after that it was for sure castillo fight but corrales heart made it through.

The first mouthpiece he took it off because the guy got knockdown and he wanted to think, it sliped away from his gloves.

But Castillo wieght in twice in castillo fight is really bad. He is a prof not some kinda amueter boxer. They have doctors, trainer...etc to keep him in shape and those guy aint workin for free. He is just luck that Corrales accepted the second fight but doing the same mistake twice is far from bad for a prof. even Amatuer boxing dont do this mistake

I'm not justifying what Castillo did, because he was wrong, but you can't say one was wrong and justify the other. Your right they are suppose to both be professionals, and Corrales continually spitiing out his mouthpiece to gain more time is a bush league move and not very professional on his part, just as Castillo's was. The point I am trying to make is that you can't say that Castillo's win was tainted and Corrales's wasn't. You have to call it both ways.

[jai mari078]

That is the most flawed logic I've seen in a while. How can you cheat within the confines of the rules? Oh, maybe on opposite day, I guess.

To cheat you have to break the rules. Some rules are enforced more strictly than others (like if you were to kick the other fighter in the nuts, for instance) but it doesn't mean that one is more breakable than the other. Both actions (kicking in the nuts and spitting out your mouthpiece) are illegal. One will get a point deducted and the other will get you DQ'd, fined, and probably suspended. Both actions, if done to gain an advantage would be cheating.

You are trying to justify as you said "the cheating Corrales did". To me cheating is cheating no matter what way you look at it. Your right he was deducted a point. Corrales could live with being deducted the point giving him more time, when it changed the whole complexion of the fight, and it did. He was deducted but the time he was given changed the fight. Neither oone of them are justified and both wins are tainted.

[jai mari078]

That is the most flawed logic I've seen in a while. How can you cheat within the confines of the rules? Oh, maybe on opposite day, I guess.

To cheat you have to break the rules. Some rules are enforced more strictly than others (like if you were to kick the other fighter in the nuts, for instance) but it doesn't mean that one is more breakable than the other. Both actions (kicking in the nuts and spitting out your mouthpiece) are illegal. One will get a point deducted and the other will get you DQ'd, fined, and probably suspended. Both actions, if done to gain an advantage would be cheating.

I was responding to this quote. My bad.

Originally Posted by Knicksman20
The difference between the "cheating" Corrales did was it was within the confines of the rules. An infration occured & a point was deducted. JLC on the other hand had a doctor use his foot to alter his weight; knowingly or unknowingly & that's cheating.

[Left2body]

Cheating is cheating....Corrales mouth piece slipped out his hand....???? lol, you can see he opened his glove from the reply and Corrales trainer was not ready with the mouth piece the second time Corrales dropped it in order to give his fighter more time. It's lame to me how ****ers can say what Corrales did was ok but what Castillo did was somehow way worse than what Corrales did. How is that? Castillo did struggle to make weight, you guy's act as if Castillo was around 143 or 144 on thursday before the weigh-in, He was about 137 on thrusday leading up to the fight like the 3rd one also but gained pounds due to losing too much weight in a certain amount of time and that's what happens. It's was the teams mis calculation, you guy's act as if Castillo didn't put any effort into losing weight.

Its simple. Castillo weighted in at 138.5lbs and 139.5lbs an athlete knows when he is on weight and when he is off weight. A professional athlete knows when he might not make weight.

Both times he chose to keep this secret and the first time his team even tried to manipulate the scales. This to me shows premeditation.

Corrales's issue at the very worst was a heat of battle.

Its not comparable.