How "green" was Canelo when he fought Floyd Mayweather?

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  • Boxing-1013
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    #41
    The main way that Canelo showed how 'green' he was, is that he had a terrible gameplan in that fight. That tells you all you need to know really.

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      #42
      Originally posted by kingstip9
      Floyd earnt the criticism he gets for the catchweight. It could’ve been a clean win, but the catchweight diminishes the victory. I feel the fight would’ve been the same 2 lbs or not, but tough luck. You ask for the catchweight, you lose the full praise
      This............

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        #43
        Originally posted by kingstip9
        Floyd earnt the criticism he gets for the catchweight. It could’ve been a clean win, but the catchweight diminishes the victory. I feel the fight would’ve been the same 2 lbs or not, but tough luck. You ask for the catchweight, you lose the full praise
        How come that doesnt work for Manny, same people bashing Floyd for his one CW gives Manny medals for , Cotto 145, Algieri 144, JMM 147 after Juan wanting 144, Margo 150, Oscar 147 after 12yrs away from it. big time double standards in here.

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        • Thuglife Nelo
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          #44
          Originally posted by El_Mero
          Saul offered 152, Floyd accepted. Or did you forget?
          Showtime produced an Episode for the build up and Canelo verbally said THEY requested the catchweight. If it were a lie, TMT would’ve refuted that since it’s forever on camera, and Canelo never corrected what he said, so TMT left it alone. You just don’t fabricate claims on camera and not expect industry or TMT to not instigate or refute it. Don’t work that way.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Golgo 13
            Canelo was:
            23 years old
            43 professional fights
            Coming off win over Trout who just beat Cotto

            How green was he at the time? And how much has he improved since then?
            He's improved VASTLY !

            Do you think he would've been competitive with Golovkin back in 2013 ?? How about Danny Jacobs or old Kovalev.

            Have you not noticed the changes in how he fights now? I can't think of another fighter who's improved so much. He's much more explosive, his defense is way better, he's much more powerful, his stamina is WAY better...and his fighter's IQ is in a completely different league now. He was a decent fighter back then but he is a great fighter now.

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            • Da Pimper
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              #46
              Originally posted by Damn Wicked
              He's improved VASTLY !

              Do you think he would've been competitive with Golovkin back in 2013 ?? How about Danny Jacobs or old Kovalev.

              Have you not noticed the changes in how he fights now? I can't think of another fighter who's improved so much. He's much more explosive, his defense is way better, he's much more powerful, his stamina is WAY better...and his fighter's IQ is in a completely different league now. He was a decent fighter back then but he is a great fighter now.
              Calm down kid. I have my own opinion, no need to lecture me. I’m just asking what everyone else thinks.

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              • QueensburyRules
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                #47
                Originally posted by Golgo 13
                Canelo was:
                23 years old
                43 professional fights
                Coming off win over Trout who just beat Cotto

                How green was he at the time? And how much has he improved since then?
                - -Literally turned blue making 152 and handicapped by the 165 lb rehydration catchwt bolstered by Bayliss hanging on him like some kinda Last Chance Saloon floozie.

                TBE TUE skipped the big $$$ rematch tells us how good he was.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Roadblock
                  How come that doesnt work for Manny, same people bashing Floyd for his one CW gives Manny medals for , Cotto 145, Algieri 144, JMM 147 after Juan wanting 144, Margo 150, Oscar 147 after 12yrs away from it. big time double standards in here.
                  - -147 ain't a CW & TBE TUE had more than one CW.

                  Y U never say what grade U in?

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                    #49
                    Canelo was closer to his prime than Floyd was.

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                    • Roadblock
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules
                      - -147 ain't a CW & TBE TUE had more than one CW.

                      Y U never say what grade U in?
                      I didnt say they were, I said Oscar had not made that weight in 12 yrs, he could not make it, he was ruined and had no chance lost it on the scales, and this is your big win lol.

                      JMM had wars with Manny all the way through the divisions, now here is Manny crowing about being the little guy tells JMM no you cant have 144 it must be 147. the irony, but Algieri you can have 144, but hold up Margo I know youre washed but 150 will do, sorry Mosley no way at 142 after Koing Margarito, but now you lost to Floyd and drew with a B grader 147 is fine.

                      Manny is the biggest manipulator of weight in the history of boxing its easy to prove, he wanted Canelo at 150 after Floyd .

                      Im in the grade above you .

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