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  • Gandhi
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    #61
    Originally posted by Stuntman Mike
    Garcia showed hes a killer ,has heart and will

    Any punch he took he came back instantly like a barrera or a morales or a manny pacquiao he pressed the fight with campbell unlike anyone has done before and took him out in style

    Garcia is a formiddable foe for anyone and looked fresh as a daisy the whole fight

    Id pick him to beat lopez and gervonta on sheer will and power

    This guy might not be your cup of tea but hes a walk down power punching killer
    LOL, a killer that only decided to throw the body punch that was there all night because Luke threw a body punch?

    Lopez and Tank would brutally knock his head off his neck. His chin is always up in the air & his feet are cemented to the ground. The kid doesn't have it. They need to milk him until the rest move up & pray Inuoue doesn't catch him at the weight class. He's not ready & I doubt he'll ever be ready.

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    • soul_survivor
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      #62
      Originally posted by Gandhi
      Shane McGuigan is more of a fitness trainer than a boxing coach & Tunde might have a better boxing brain than him. I honestly don't know why people hype him like he knows what he's doing. The only boxer he has trained that achieved anything is Josh Taylor & I wouldn't call JT the most skilled boxer out there. He's just lucky he's fighting in a very weak division & he won most of his fights due to his grit/heart.

      Luke on the other hand has no heart & he has a propensity to fall apart on the big stage. So, he needed proper coaching/tactics & the fitness trainer couldn't give him that.
      I agree, I have always thought of McGuigan has a conditioning coach, I've said it in a few posts already.

      I think SM would be good in a team, but he can't be the head boxing coach.

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      • Stuntman Mike
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        #63
        Originally posted by Gandhi
        LOL, a killer that only decided to throw the body punch that was there all night because Luke threw a body punch?

        Lopez and Tank would brutally knock his head off his neck. His chin is always up in the air & his feet are cemented to the ground. The kid doesn't have it. They need to milk him until the rest move up & pray Inuoue doesn't catch him at the weight class. He's not ready & I doubt he'll ever be ready.
        He did a far better job than linares or loma

        Luke is a good all around boxer he proved that against Loma

        Garcia had all the foot movement he needed to land his devastating shots all night and he landed the same body shot he got the ko with in the second round right after he got up.are you seriously that ******

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        • GreyFox
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          #64
          Luke Campbell lacks self belief and has a loser's mentality. Teofimo's dad said just this to Hearn's face. He knocked Garcia down in the second round and didn't try to get him out of there because he's a loser and doesn't believe he can win. A trainer like Virgil Hunter would be great for him to give him some confidence. Shane McGuiggen doesn't understand the psychology of a fighter let alone the sport of boxing.

          Only UK trainer I rate is Peter Fury. He's done well with both Furys but Tyson Fury trains with the Kronk now.

          Heck Freddie Roach took Amir Khan as far as he was going to go in his career.

          I know people will hold out Lennox Lewis as a shining example to counter but Lennox picked up boxing in Canada, represented Canada in the amateurs, and as a pro was exclusively trained by Americans.

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          • Rick Taylor
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            #65
            Originally posted by GreyFox
            Luke Campbell lacks self belief and has a loser's mentality. Teofimo's dad said just this to Hearn's face. He knocked Garcia down in the second round and didn't try to get him out of there because he's a loser and doesn't believe he can win. A trainer like Virgil Hunter would be great for him to give him some confidence. Shane McGuiggen doesn't understand the psychology of a fighter let alone the sport of boxing.

            Only UK trainer I rate is Peter Fury. He's done well with both Furys but Tyson Fury trains with the Kronk now.

            Heck Freddie Roach took Amir Khan as far as he was going to go in his career.

            I know people will hold out Lennox Lewis as a shining example to counter but Lennox picked up boxing in Canada, represented Canada in the amateurs, and as a pro was exclusively trained by Americans.
            Virgil Hunters gym is where boxers careers go to die.

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              #66
              I always felt Joe Gallagher and Shane McGuigan were good trainers???

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                #67
                Originally posted by Rick Taylor
                Virgil Hunters gym is where boxers careers go to die.
                LOL 100% true.

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                • GreyFox
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Rick Taylor
                  Virgil Hunters gym is where boxers careers go to die.
                  I don't think he's the best trainer out there but he did work well to improve Angulo, Berto and Khan. Believe he would be an improvement over Shane McGuiggen.

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                  • Rick Taylor
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by GreyFox
                    I don't think he's the best trainer out there but he did work well to improve Angulo, Berto and Khan. Believe he would be an improvement over Shane McGuiggen.
                    Possibly...

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                    • Gandhi
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by soul_survivor
                      I agree, I have always thought of McGuigan has a conditioning coach, I've said it in a few posts already.

                      I think SM would be good in a team, but he can't be the head boxing coach.
                      He’s more of PT. Take a look at how he turned into a Garcia fanboy after the fight taking pictures like a fan girl.

                      I think Haye is the reason why he became overrated cos I’m yet to see him add anything to the boxers he trains.

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