Can Wilder's image ever recover from this?

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  • SimpleTouchee
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    #21
    Originally posted by REDEEMER
    Team Wilder waited for Vitali to retire before making any noises about titles . If he wasn’t ready why did he come out right away and challenge for his vacated belt ? Stiverne was protected by Don King from ever facing Vitali at least all the years Vitali was champion ,the resumes will prove that .

    Wilder never intended to fight either Klitschko and his team would never let that happen ,if Finkles actions weren’t enough to show this to you nothing will.
    Wrong Klitschko brother, vitali Klitschko was beginning his politician career at that time. Vitali was inactive for almost 2 years than drop the title. You talking about Wladmir Klitschko, you can say why Fury was rated high in the WBC rankings top 3 back then but Klitschko decided to fight Chisora coming off a lost. So you can reverse your narrative for Wilder ducking vitali Klitschko for Tyson Fury.

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    • Madison Boxing
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      #22
      he wont fight again, hes completely broken mentally

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      • SimpleTouchee
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        #23
        Originally posted by Monzon99
        Wilder is and always was a protected fraud pretender. That's what he was and will always be. Now he's exposed the ugly truth to everyone.

        No amount of faking or more fixed fights or PR rescue can help wilder, the truth is out of the bag. He's a no class jack a55 POS fraud pretender who will win a few more haymon rigged dives before cashing out vs AJ.
        So 99 percent of fights including Hagler vs Ray Leonard were rigged by your logic and you probably never had a fight in your life. Conspiracy theory lunatic
        Last edited by SimpleTouchee; 11-20-2020, 01:30 PM.

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          #24
          Furthermore who care about money and business in boxing, I'm a fan of the sport not any fighter, but I think Fury beats Wilder if he don't overlook Wilder and treat him like a tune up for a AJ fight. The fans should be on the sanctioning bodies for stealing all the money these fighters with rigged rankings and rank contenders not fighting each other. Style make fights and alot of these titleholders in boxing never want to fight tough stylistic match-ups. I just want to see undisputed we haven't seen it since 1999, it's a new age boxing fan term who are so used to seeing undefeated fighters and Floyd Mayweather blueprint. A lost don't mean you finished some guys like Wilder letting this L get to his head instead of just having to have a better gameplan next time and look at himself and film. Yawn.... about these mediocre fights coming up

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          • Toffee
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            #25
            I'm 50/50 on what happens next. I figure he either:

            1. Never fights again and disappears.
            2. Becomes some joke character. Fights very rarely and is still trying to make controversy and calling out titlists when he's 45.

            I don't see any meaningful career from this point.

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            • TheMyspaceDayz
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              #26
              The only way he can come back from this is if they have emergency surgery to remove a brain tumour. Then people will go “ohhhh, that explains the insanity.”

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                #27
                OK hypothetically speaking (and I didn't want to start a thread to pose this question) but what if the 3rd fight happens and Wilder sleeps Fury with an early shot, and get's his belt back?

                Does this not put him back in the mix? A date with AJ? Thoughts that his demise in the 2nd fight a fluke? Can he still compete at top level with only one good weapon?

                Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see him in with Whyte, Parker, Helenius, or any other top heavy as a measuring stick if the trilogy doesn't come off, to see if he can even compete, and if Fury truly did pop his cherry.
                Last edited by club fighter; 11-20-2020, 03:24 PM.

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                • KingGilgamesh
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                  #28
                  He's done his image a favour. Its annoying as I still think Wilder is an underappreciated heavyweight but, at the same time, I am well aware this his delusional antics will put bums on seats. In fact if this Fury fight turns out not to be his next fight then all he needs is a solid win against a B-tier heavyweight and he's right back up there in levels of excitement.

                  The thing many fellow Brits refuse to understand is that American's live for controversial African American fighters. Nothing the public enjoys more than the potential of some loud, raucous black man getting the stuffing beat out of him. Wilder went from a virtual unknown with a heavyweight title, doing appearances of Love and Hip Hop and getting trolled by youtube celebrities to commanding the highest purses in boxing in 2020. His lunacy (and occassional ******ity) sell and it sells big.

                  Favourability in sports is very fickle...its only so lond people will tolerate a lovable loser. I remember growing up and Tyson was a violent criminal who was struggling to get an entry Visa to the UK to a lovable podcaster with a host of film credits and a CBD business. He was still commanding huge purses at the height of his infamy.

                  Weasel mentality Brits will cry and moan for Wilder daring to be outspoken and make a living for himself. I, like anyone with any remote real world experience in fighting, knows what a lonely world it is and how very few people come in like Joshua/Khan/Harrison having benefited from a massive PR boost after doing anything worthwhile at the Olympics. The boxing world needs him the way CNN's ratings need Donald Trump.

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                  • KingGilgamesh
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by REDEEMER
                    If he dared to fight the best we would have had a Vitali Klitschko fight years back . The hard truth is Wilder has never fought a guy that was ready or in perfect health and when he did fight a real top guy in condition he got smashed .

                    He will go down as one of the biggest jokes and always have unlimited references to be the joke ,even Joyce’s camp was clowning him today wrapping his hands . It’ll never get old .
                    This comment proves what I suspected. You're an idiot.

                    Wilder won his title in January 2015 and Klistchko lost his in December of that same year. How on God's green earth would Wilder have managed to unify with Wlad in 10 months? Especially considering Wlad himself earmarked Fury as an opponent by the middle of the same year???

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                    • kafkod
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by KingGilgamesh
                      This comment proves what I suspected. You're an idiot.

                      Wilder won his title in January 2015 and Klistchko lost his in December of that same year. How on God's green earth would Wilder have managed to unify with Wlad in 10 months? Especially considering Wlad himself earmarked Fury as an opponent by the middle of the same year???
                      Wlad didn't earmark or choose Fury as an opponent, it was a mandatory defence of his WBA title. What he really wanted was a chance to unify the division by winning the only title he didn't have - the WBC belt which had been held by his brother.

                      Wilder became WBC champion before Wlad's mando with Fury had been ordered and the undisputed fight could easily have been made, but Wilder's manager, Shelley Finkel, ruled it out, saying Deontay was still a baby and not yet ready for Wlad.

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