Comments Thread For: Eddie Hearn Looks To Implement UFC Model With One Champ Per Division By 2021

[TMLT87]

I have caught you out on this one, haven't I mate?

The UFC have zero world champions, no fighter inside the UFC can claim that they are World Champions 'They are champions of the UFC'.

Boxing has legitimate world champions, fair enough? It may take some time and number of fights to define who the world number 1 is 'But once a fighter claims undisputed status, they are the champions of the entire world'.

Zuffa Boxing, 1 Champ will just be another belt to collect 'There is no way organisations like that will overshadow the universal world of boxing'. The WBC, WBA, WBO AND IBF are not just going to disappear' So 1 promoter that dictate to a few hundred boxers 'The world of boxing does not consist of just afew hundred boxer'.

I know afew people who have fought in mixed martial arts, but in different organisations other than the UFC 'For all we know? They could actually be better fighters than he UFC champions, who is to say they are not? That is the game for you 'That is what happens when you don't have world champions in your sport'.

You could do these "what ifs?" for anything though. What if, for example, Fury beats AJ? he will then have become undisputed world champ while having faced precisely two of the current top 10. Whos to say someone else in the top 10, or even outside of it, couldnt beat him? theres always gonna be someone out there who might have the tools to step in there with the champ tomorrow and win, but we will never know unless/until we see it. That applies to both boxing and MMA.

Btw though, I actually agree with you on all this Zuffa boxing nonsense, I think its a terrible idea destined to fail.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Yea 4 or more per division is the problem.

No denying the UFC model isn't perfect, but the boxing model is further off than the UFC model.

The NFL & MLB aren't perfect either. The goal isn't perfect. The goal is something less full of sh^t at this point & virtually everything outside the ring in boxing is full of sh^t & counterproductive to the integrity of boxing.

Model this, model that.

No matter what people complain about, the fact of the matter is? Boxing has legitimate world champions. Once a fighter gains undisputed status, that fighter sits on-top of the world 'It may take some time for a fighter to achieve this status, but at-least boxing has that prestige'.

The UFC has zero world champions, they are champions of the UFC 'They are champions of a few other 100 fighters, Conor Mcgregor has never sat on top of the world' He has never been the king.

In track and field athletics, athletes have to wait for 4 years 'To truly find out who the best athletes in the world are, yes there are world championships, commonwealth, European and area games' But nothing overshadows the status of the Olympic title.

Listen guys, I know everyone here idolizes the UFC 'But I have got news for you? Zuffa boxing and 1 champ will just be another belt, those fighters will not be recognized as world champions.

So let me get this straight, WE don't want world champions in boxing anymore ? WE just want SOME boxers, to be champions over a few other fighters ? Get out of here.

People need to stop idolizing america models of sport, there are no world champions in the NBA, no world champions in the NFL, no world champions in Major League Baseball, Ice Hockey you name it 'They cannot definitely claim that they are world champions'.

Eff Pandas I have watched you talking, as if the UFC is perfect 'And now you are back tracking, do you want world champions in boxing or what? What is your issue with the belts? What is your issue with the undisputed status?

Fair enough it may take some time 'But greatness takes time' Climbing mountains take time, it does not just happen over night. There are battles and wars a long the way, that is boxing etc

Note: All you people who idolize the UFC, and want boxing run like the UFC 'Will complain, when all these UFC styled organisations appear in boxing.

[Eff Pandas]

Didn't the IBF (or another organization) try this originally? but it didn't work because boxers need to buy into it and the big names want the money that comes from 'champions' fighting 'champions.

We all want one champ per division but it will never happen unless there is an organisation with literally huge amounts of money who can promote it and get the boxers paid massive amounts.

Basically if this fails (which it probably will) we will end up with ANOTHER belt in the mix.

You don't need the boxers to buy into it so much as you need promoters to buy into it. Boxers usually wanna know how good they are. The promoters got more control than anyone & they are the ones trying to maximize revenue all the time. They touch the money on both ends. The issue is getting promoters to work together. And that's a big fooking issue.

[Szef]

For that to happen

- he would have to team up with Haymon and Arum

- the fighters would have to take significant paycuts

Goid luck with that Eddie

[Eff Pandas]

Model this, model that.

No matter what people complain about, the fact of the matter is? Boxing has legitimate world champions.

championS with an S on the end is exactly the problem like I said.

Listen guys, I know everyone here idolizes the UFC 'But I have got news for you? Zuffa boxing and 1 champ will just be another belt, those fighters will not be recognized as world champions.

I like the UFC. I don't idolize it. I do think they seen a lot of things boxing does right & wrong & made their product maximum fan friendly with that knowledge. Idk anything about Zuffa Boxing to hype it or demean it. I'll be interested to see what they can do or bring but I'm always interested in what guys who think outside of the box bring. One of my favorite cats in boxing these days is David McWater for exactly that reason.

So let me get this straight, WE don't want world champions in boxing anymore ? WE just want SOME boxers, to be champions over a few other fighters ? Get out of here.

Anyone who claims they want world champions has just been stockholm syndromed into that line of thinking. We want a world champion.

People need to stop idolizing america models of sport, there are no world champions in the NBA, no world champions in the NFL, no world champions in Major League Baseball, Ice Hockey you name it 'They cannot definitely claim that they are world champions'.

Eff Pandas I have watched you talking, as if the UFC is perfect 'And now you are back tracking, do you want world champions in boxing or what? What is your issue with the belts? What is your issue with the undisputed status?

Fair enough it may take some time 'But greatness takes time' Climbing mountains take time, it does not just happen over night. There are battles and wars a long the way, that is boxing etc

Note: All you people who idolize the UFC, and want boxing run like the UFC 'Will complain, when all these UFC styled organisations appear in boxing.

The belts are trash cuz there are so many of them. Idk how you can demonize these other groups that athletes from all over the world come to compete in. And no one is saying it's gotta be world anything. It's marketing bs. I mean is there reallllllly much difference between the NFL proclaiming the best football team among 30 or whatever teams in one country & boxing proclaiming 4+ best boxers among the world for every weight division? Idk that there is.

[kafkod]

He can't make them fight, but he can block them from fighting somebody else with another promoter! DAZN seems to have that power too, just ask Canelo! Do you think they don't want to fight each other, or is it just a Covid-19 casualty?

Neither of them have any kind of contract with DAZN, and Hearn has said many times that Matchroom fighters are free to move on and work with other promoters, if that's what they want to do. Nobody has ever had to sit out a Matchroom contract or go to court to get out of one.

Last year, Smith's manager/trainer was openly talking on social media about him possibly terminating his arrangement with Matchroom if Eddie didn't get him the fights he wanted. One of those fights was BJS, but they both ended up negotiating with Canelo instead of each other, then the virus came.

[Eff Pandas]

One champion per division won't happen unless Dana Whites boxing takes over.

One belt per division per sanctioning body is much more realistic and would benefit the sport imo.

Dana can't make a one champion boxing world.

You need promoters to work together to get to a one champion boxing world. And idk how you make that happen.

The only good thing about this news is now it seems like Eddie, Floyd & Dana are all on the same page. And TR is up for sale supposedly. If Eddie, Floyd or Dana buy TR & maybe PBC jumps in maybe we could steer into a one champion boxing world in the near future doe.

Granted I wouldn't bet on it happening, but I see how things could transition to it if certain things go down.

[davef]

thing is a loss in the UFC isn't a bad thing but in boxing if you lose you almost go to the back of the line, get called shot, or a bum its hard to sell boxing fans fights when a guys been exposed already

[TMLT87]

Model this, model that.

No matter what people complain about, the fact of the matter is? Boxing has legitimate world champions. Once a fighter gains undisputed status, that fighter sits on-top of the world 'It may take some time for a fighter to achieve this status, but at-least boxing has that prestige'.

What does this actually mean in real world practical terms though? you can get a belt in boxing while barely touching the top 10 of your division. Crawford is some peoples no1 p4p boxer right now, who has he fought?


All it really means is boxers fight opponents from various different promotions whereas UFC fights are in house. But an important distinction to make is the UFC has a clearly stronger roster at every weight class than any other org in its sport, no one promotion in boxing has that.

[Removed Now]

This is one reason why I watch the UFC over boxing. This stuff has been getting on my nerves for years.