Would Usyk school a prime "Big George" Foreman

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    #191
    Originally posted by garfios

    I don't know what you're referring to, and I quoted "Repeating that lie quote huh he wasnt tough to hard shots shown by Ron 1st round", especially the lie part.. I just got from that sentence, that you think George is an easy target for usyk.
    Well you skipped over the rest of the page cause I gave the breakdown to el*** did you not see that and I dont talk from thoughts only visual

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      #192
      Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez

      I never buy Foreman as being that huge a puncher. Sure he hits very hard but most of his fights he had to hit the guy a ton of times to stop him. It wasn't like Wilder-power. I think Foreman got that rep from the Ali film where they had to build him up as wrecking ball.

      We need to see Usyk in more heavyweight fights to have a good idea but he's only been in the division 5 minutes and already has more belts than Tyson Fury. So let's see. Usyk did not look great against Witherspoon, and AJ in a way is made for him.
      I'm still not sure AJ cant win in the rematch he tried to box an elite boxer he has to make it a dirty fight and use his strong points

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        #193
        Originally posted by Blond Beast

        Usyk looks stringy at HW, Im sure theres a reason he stayed cruiser for so long.
        - - Bigger and much more accomplished than Field as a traditional heavywt both in Olympics and pros and now a bigger scalp than Field ever had in AJ..

        Field spent entire ama career and early pro years below 190. His heavy record is 26-10-2 with a low KO%

        Ya could look it up!

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          #194
          Originally posted by moneytheman

          That doesn't make sense why do you people repeat that quote oh this man needs more matches what does having more matches mean cause people in the Joe era and before and we seen people from the 80s have mutiple matches does that mean they would do good h2h no so that makes no sense to keep using that quote its really dumb to keep saying that and it always has been dumb

          That quote means to me oh if this person fought alot of trash dudes means he does good vs a person who isnt trash see how it sounds it sounds ridiculous

          What we do is see how a person does vs a similar style of fighter or one who has good movement go from there and we have seen usyk fight people who move way better then George and give them trouble

          We have seen george struggle to hit people who don't just stand there like a Chuvalo/jim/joe 2nd match/martin who wasnt bullied not only that he struggled but he was picked off easy

          George power comes from quotes nothing in the ring ever showed him like he is talked of

          Quotes like this 1 good shot from george
          all he needs is a couple and its over
          Nobody could take George shots yet no names took his shots before being stopped let alone dropped

          George Never had that tech where it only took a handful to drop a person not until he was old

          The closest we have to a george type usyk fought is chisora but even he moves better then george he has mutiple lateral movements advances and is faster at hand and more random in his shots but his shots are sloopy and still slow compared to others just like george was the other difference is chis doesnt waste as many shots chis to me looks to be a combo of Frazier to since he comes in with that head tucked

          Chis is more advanced then george thats obvious by a good amount i see and Frazier

          Like watch how george fights he is so sloopy in his shots doesnt Block and his timing isnt that good for landing shots unless his person was where he needed them which is why alot of matches he looks hesitant

          It's s really obvious looking at the advances chis has over george and usyk gave him trouble that usyk picks apart george and counters him with no trouble
          I can't imagine Foreman charging after Usyk like a bull in a china shop, the way Chisora did. That was never Foreman's style. And remember, Chisora is about 30lbs heavier than prime Foreman. George wouldn't have the same massive size advantage over Usyk that Chisora had.

          Foreman's lack of stamina would be a big handicap vs a guy with an engine like Usyk's. He was literally falling over with exhaustion after chasing 213lb Jimmy Young around for 10 rounds. Young was a tricky fighter who knew how to make himself awkward, but nowhere near as tricky and awkward as Usyk.

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            #195
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules

            - - Bigger and much more accomplished than Field as a traditional heavywt both in Olympics and pros and now a bigger scalp than Field ever had in AJ..

            Field spent entire ama career and early pro years below 190. His heavy record is 26-10-2 with a low KO%

            Ya could look it up!
            Yes, the cruiserweight limit was 190lbs, not 200lbs, during Holyfield's reign. Seems like a lot of people either don't know that or they choose to ignore it.

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              #196
              Originally posted by Blond Beast

              Usyk looks stringy at HW, Im sure theres a reason he stayed cruiser for so long.
              Apparently, he looks stringy and pumped up at the same time. Funny one that, innit.

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                #197
                Originally posted by kafkod

                I can't imagine Foreman charging after Usyk like a bull in a china shop, the way Chisora did. That was never Foreman's style. And remember, Chisora is about 30lbs heavier than prime Foreman. George wouldn't have the same massive size advantage over Usyk that Chisora had.

                Foreman's lack of stamina would be a big handicap vs a guy with an engine like Usyk's. He was literally falling over with exhaustion after chasing 213lb Jimmy Young around for 10 rounds. Young was a tricky fighter who knew how to make himself awkward, but nowhere near as tricky and awkward as Usyk.
                Well I explained why George wouldnt do good has nothing to do with his bad energy I dont do quotes of others only my own it comes down to what I said his sloopy tech and slow punches from long range along with his lack of defense

                Usyk picks him apart
                jim is simple compared to Usyk who I see as like a Byrd type who was amazing to

                As slow and sloopy George was i can see Usyk having fun like look at how sloopy and slow this dude is I'll make him look foolish and I wouldn't blame him I probably would do the same

                It would be a more flashy ver of a young Ali vs george
                Last edited by Ascended; 05-21-2022, 02:22 PM.

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                  #198
                  Originally posted by moneytheman

                  Where did you see me say that in that way cause I specifically said what I meant and always do and I specifically said george which most know his style

                  so no its not just a fighter that you described Cause I can name a different person and they could be slow and easy to read but they throw punches different so your trying to flip what I said to mean what you want doesnt work on me or does acting slow right?

                  so your comment makes no sense why dont you read the whole thing agian cause then you will understand you skipped over alot why the rush if you hadn't done that you wouldn't had said this idiotic comment

                  and I'm already sitting you slow person
                  Ok, now get Usyk to sit on your face now, you will see its not that easy. you get a hard on insulting people you dont know so i don't have time to read your dissertations. You are a twat so you will be spoken to like one... end sorry now suck it easy

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                    #199
                    Originally posted by moneytheman

                    Well I explained why George wouldnt do good has nothing to do with his bad energy I dont do quotes of others only my own it comes down to what I said his sloopy tech and slow punches from long range along with his lack of defense

                    Usyk picks him apart
                    jim is simple compared to Usyk who I see as like a Byrd type who was amazing to

                    As slow and sloopy George was i can see Usyk having fun like look at how sloopy and slow this dude is I'll make him look foolish and I wouldn't blame him I probably would do the same

                    It would be a more flashy ver of a young Ali vs george
                    That's what I mean. Jimmy Young was a pound shop version of young Ali. If he could run prime Foreman ragged and beat him wide over 12 rounds, Usyk could certainly do the same.

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                      #200
                      Originally posted by kafkod

                      That's what I mean. Jimmy Young was a pound shop version of young Ali. If he could run prime Foreman ragged and beat him wide over 12 rounds, Usyk could certainly do the same.
                      But wouldnt you say Usyk would do it way easier since he way more skilled then jim was not just that but as I explained to these people Usyk doesnt just stand there so I take it george doesn't throw sloopy long range shots and moves good on his feet

                      Watching vid shows its the exact way I said he fights

                      I find it odd that these same people would say ali 60s at his most flashy would outbox george easy yet Usyk who uses more effective movement who is more advanced would be destroyed how does that work
                      Last edited by Ascended; 05-21-2022, 04:55 PM.

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