Joe Calzaghe's 46-0 vs Floyd Mayweather's 50-0

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froch isnt hof, nor kessler.

what you mean is that they were SMW elites, but HoF means something else.

Guaranteed they both get in. Kessler will have to wait longer than Froch. You're deluded if you think Froch's resume isn't legit.

[coghaugen]

I'll be amazed if Froch or Kessler are inducted into the HOF, it's more of an American thing.

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I'll be amazed if Froch or Kessler are inducted into the HOF, it's more of an American thing.

Froch is very well known and appreciated by NA boxing writers, who from what I've read all respect that he fought all the big names of his division back to back.

He fought Americans Taylor, Dirrell, Ward. Also beat Pascal and Bute (Canadians). He was ranked top 10 p4p for 2 years 2013, 2014) before his retirement. Retired number 1 at 168 with Ward's move up to 175.

A lot of Great fighters up for selection soon so it'll be a while before he's in, but that doesn't mean Froch wasn't Great himself. No doubt in my mind he'll get in. And when he does it'll strengthen the case for the man that took his 0, Kessler, to be voted in. Both are top 5 SMW imo (90s onwards). Only Calzaghe, RJJ and Ward clearly ranked higher in the division than them. RJJ higher due to obvious eyeball test and quality of the Toney win, rather than longevity or accomplishments. Toney was greater than CF & MK but his legacy at 168 isn't.

[IronDanHamza]

Guaranteed they both get in. Kessler will have to wait longer than Froch. You're deluded if you think Froch's resume isn't legit.

Froch will.

Kessler won’t.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

froch isnt hof, nor kessler.

what you mean is that they were SMW elites, but HoF means something else.

I agree tbf. Neither have an elite win IMO. I suppose Kessler at least beat a prime Froch.

Both warriors who fought the best at 168 but neither were elite fighters- Ward showed that by dominating both.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Froch is very well known and appreciated by NA boxing writers, who from what I've read all respect that he fought all the big names of his division back to back.

He fought Americans Taylor, Dirrell, Ward. Also beat Pascal and Bute (Canadians). He was ranked top 10 p4p for 2 years 2013, 2014) before his retirement. Retired number 1 at 168 with Ward's move up to 175.

A lot of Great fighters up for selection soon so it'll be a while before he's in, but that doesn't mean Froch wasn't Great himself. No doubt in my mind he'll get in. And when he does it'll strengthen the case for the man that took his 0, Kessler, to be voted in. Both are top 5 SMW imo (90s onwards). Only Calzaghe, RJJ and Ward clearly ranked higher in the division than them. RJJ higher due to obvious eyeball test and quality of the Toney win, rather than longevity or accomplishments. Toney was greater than CF & MK but his legacy at 168 isn't.

I got nothing against Froch mate, the man was a warrior, fought essentially every one of his peer group.

I just don’t think he was ever the official #1 at 168, never had a truly elite win IMO (Pascal probably his best) and then never really made much noise out of the UK.

Rightfully, gets a lot of praise over here but I’m not sure he’ll make the HOF. I could see it being another Eubank/Benn situation.

[Gentblue]

If you can't be honest things get tricky, Floyd is remembered for having more than 1 gift. Don't let that bother you too much doesn't mean Floyd s not greater just that Floyd has a less genuine claim to being unbeaten.

People get on floyd more as he wants to be TBE so people require more from him. Joe don't even care if he's considered greater than hopkins.
Both wanted the zero, but one thought the zero meant more than the other did

So your critical of Floyd because he said he was great???? K

[Roadblock]

So your critical of Floyd because he said he was great???? K

No he is soooo bitter and butt hurt because Floyd stopped Hatton, he was talking Hatton up just like he does Manny now, it all goes back to Hatton with him and anyone thats been around he for years knows it.

What this says about him is sad but its true.

[BodyBagz]

The great Calzaghe often travelled to England as the away fighter vs Mr Livingstone Eubank, Reid, Starie, Woodhall, Delaney etc

Plus Vegas, NYC, and Europe twice

Mayweather never left his hometown

I meant div wise.....

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Froch is very well known and appreciated by NA boxing writers, who from what I've read all respect that he fought all the big names of his division back to back.

He fought Americans Taylor, Dirrell, Ward. Also beat Pascal and Bute (Canadians). He was ranked top 10 p4p for 2 years 2013, 2014) before his retirement. Retired number 1 at 168 with Ward's move up to 175.

A lot of Great fighters up for selection soon so it'll be a while before he's in, but that doesn't mean Froch wasn't Great himself. No doubt in my mind he'll get in. And when he does it'll strengthen the case for the man that took his 0, Kessler, to be voted in. Both are top 5 SMW imo (90s onwards). Only Calzaghe, RJJ and Ward clearly ranked higher in the division than them. RJJ higher due to obvious eyeball test and quality of the Toney win, rather than longevity or accomplishments. Toney was greater than CF & MK but his legacy at 168 isn't.

Neither are remotely close to the class of Toney, Nunn or Eubank or the greatness of Toney, Benn or Eubank. Average boxers. Watching Eubank-Watson II and Benn-McClellan and then watching these Froch-Kessler fights - world's apart. Universes even