Joe Calzaghe's 46-0 vs Floyd Mayweather's 50-0

[lokkebassen123]

Floyd is greater. Top 20 ATG.

Calzaghe is an ATG but hard to place him. He's nowhere near top 20 however.

JC win over BHOP is great, and his win over Kessler (a HOF'er imo) was also excellent and he dismantled Lacy in a legit 1 v 2 fight. He had longevity and was undefeated. Definitely top 3 at 168 ever, and became Ring Champ at 175. Bhop's 175 run post-JC is crazy good also.

Let's not forget that Ottke ducked him for years, had JC beaten him he would have been lineal champ for YEARS. Ottke wouldn't be seen as such a meme also because he'd have stepped up.

With hindsight only a few fights more would have sealed JC as a top 20 ATG. Those being; Sven Ottke (meaning he'd have many more lineal defenses), fighting prime Glen Johnson at 168/175 after his 2004 fighter of the year run, Carl Froch, and beating a better version of RJJ. If I recall he took more money to fight Manfredo Jr rather than mandatory in Stieglitz I think, he'd have been 4 belt undisputed had he took that fight. Stieglitz had a decent career so it would have been another notch. Maybe throw a rematch with Reid in there too.

Mikkel Kessler a HOF’er🤣🤣🤣

[elfag]

Floyd beat:
Genaro Hernandez
Gregorio Vargas
Diego Corrales
Carlos Hernandez
Jesus Chavez
Jose Luis Castillo
Jose Luis Castillo
DeMarcus Corley
Arturo Gatti
Sharmba Mitchell
Zab Judah
Carlos Baldomir
Oscar De La Hoya
Ricky Hatton
Juan Manuel Marquez
Shane Mosley
Victor Ortiz
Miguel Cotto
Robert Guerrero
Canelo Alvarez
Marcos Maidana
Marcos Maidana
Manny Pacquiao
Andre Berto

24-0-0-0 against legit world champions (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO, Ring, and/or Lineal titles only; no Regular, Interim, IBO, etc).

Calzaghe beat:
Chris Eubank
Robin Reid
Richie Woodhall
Charles Brewer
Byron Mitchell
Jeff Lacy
Sakio Bika
Mikkel Kessler
Bernard Hopkins
Roy Jones Jr

9-0-0-0 against legit world champions.

It's not even close. Floyd by a landslide.

This, its not even close.

Roy jones was 39 and hopkins was in his 40s and those are among his best wins.

[hugh grant]

This, its not even close.

Roy jones was 39 and hopkins was in his 40s and those are among his best wins.

But jc did fight outside backyard and beat former heavyweight champ
Plus he beat hopkins who had a great resume before he fought jc and had good wins after losing to jc also, and he beat hopkins in backyard

[£-4-£]

Mikkel Kessler a HOF’er🤣🤣🤣

-Won 5 belts in total at 168.
-Unified titles.
-Best win is prime undefeated Carl Froch, also HOF.
-Came back after damaged retina to win a title.
-Straddled 2 eras at 168 and was 2nd best in both (Calzaghe and Ward eras)
-Between those 2 eras he was the number 1
-Top 5 SMW, in my opinion.

[Gentblue]

Floyd had quite a few gifts. JC didn't get any gifts, he beat you in your backyard so isn't obligated like Floyd would be to give rematch.
Plus not any other controversies with jc, no IV and stuff like that.

Floyd got 1 gift (which quite a few people thought he did win) in Castillo and gave him an immediate rematch. JC got 1 gift ( which quite a few people thought he lost) in Hopkins then retired and never gave him a rematch.

Funny people get on Floyd for retiring before those 2 years while the division was hot but no one ever gets on JC for retiring right before the super 6 in his home division????

[h2k]

Who was greater? Joe Calzaghe or Floyd Mayweather?

Ok, so I'm not asking who is the better boxer here (its clearly Mayweather). But let's look at their respected resumes. Both get plenty of stick for their resumes, but who's is better?

Mayweather for me.

50-0>46-0 that's why money may is greater than cal.

[DreamFighter]

You must be thinking of the times he was trying to get RJJ and BHop in the ring but they wanted none of it from the guy who beat Eubank and Lacey and, well, everyone.

hilarious, nice. I hadnt worked out you were being sardonic earlier, my bad.

[DreamFighter]

-Won 5 belts in total at 168.
-Unified titles.
-Best win is prime undefeated Carl Froch, also HOF.
-Came back after damaged retina to win a title.
-Straddled 2 eras at 168 and was 2nd best in both (Calzaghe and Ward eras)
-Between those 2 eras he was the number 1
-Top 5 SMW, in my opinion.

froch isnt hof, nor kessler.

what you mean is that they were SMW elites, but HoF means something else.

[Blond Beast]

Pacquiao is ranked higher on every list than hopkins. Which makes floyd win over pacquiao better than joe's win over hopkins

And floyd's win was more decisive. Nobody feels pacquiao beat floyd except pac stans. Plenty of people felt calzaghe lost to the 43 year old hopkins.

Hopkins aint better than floyd at nothing. So cut that out.

Pacquiao, cotto, canelo, marquez, mosley, all hall of famers floyd beat.

Then borderline hall of famers like Corrales, zab, castillo, hatton

Calzaghe resume dont read nothing like that

Right! The coolest thing Slappy Joe ever did was ask for Blow on camera. Joe was a good fighter but how many fights of his can anyone really name? I’m sure a lot of people confuse him with Froch anyway. He fought like a rubberband, was good at it for sure, but he will slip away into obscurity more and more. He will probably become vogue briefly at sum point again though. Nobody clambering to rewatch his fights over Floyd’s anyway even Floyd’s haters.

[hugh grant]

Floyd got 1 gift (which quite a few people thought he did win) in Castillo and gave him an immediate rematch. JC got 1 gift ( which quite a few people thought he lost) in Hopkins then retired and never gave him a rematch.

Funny people get on Floyd for retiring before those 2 years while the division was hot but no one ever gets on JC for retiring right before the super 6 in his home division????

If you can't be honest things get tricky, Floyd is remembered for having more than 1 gift. Don't let that bother you too much doesn't mean Floyd s not greater just that Floyd has a less genuine claim to being unbeaten.

People get on floyd more as he wants to be TBE so people require more from him. Joe don't even care if he's considered greater than hopkins.
Both wanted the zero, but one thought the zero meant more than the other did