Floyd vs Manny, a historical perspective.
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1. Floyd wasn't at his best when he returned in 09. He was past his prime by then. He was in his 30s.
2. MANNY is to blame. Floyd adjusted the offer to give Manny the money he wanted, which would've been record breaking at the time, and was going to immediately wire Manny $20 mil. That's what MANNY wanted. Manny still turned the offer down because he didn't want to be tested for PEDS. Any other athlete on earth and he'd be shamed and ostracized for that. Only racists ism and hatred against Floyd keeps Manny from being properly chastised for that strangely odd and su****ious decision.
And before you say it's opinion, even though it's not, Freddie Roach himself is on camera saying Manny turned the fight down because he didn't want to be tested.
3. The fight happened AFTER Manny finally agreed to testing. Coincidentally AFTER Freddie was talking about seeing weaknesses in Floyd and his legs being shot. It was always manny's fault it didn't happen earlier. He's been strategic about who he fights, when he fights them, and how he fights them. ATG but people blatantly ignore how strategic he was in picking opponents.Comment
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Freddie Roach has been saying Floyd’s legs are totally shot from 2010 after the Mosley fight.1. Floyd wasn't at his best when he returned in 09. He was past his prime by then. He was in his 30s.
2. MANNY is to blame. Floyd adjusted the offer to give Manny the money he wanted, which would've been record breaking at the time, and was going to immediately wire Manny $20 mil. That's what MANNY wanted. Manny still turned the offer down because he didn't want to be tested for PEDS. Any other athlete on earth and he'd be shamed and ostracized for that. Only racists ism and hatred against Floyd keeps Manny from being properly chastised for that strangely odd and su****ious decision.
And before you say it's opinion, even though it's not, Freddie Roach himself is on camera saying Manny turned the fight down because he didn't want to be tested.
3. The fight happened AFTER Manny finally agreed to testing. Coincidentally AFTER Freddie was talking about seeing weaknesses in Floyd and his legs being shot. It was always manny's fault it didn't happen earlier. He's been strategic about who he fights, when he fights them, and how he fights them. ATG but people blatantly ignore how strategic he was in picking opponents.Comment
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Floyd was unquestionably in his prime in 2009. He hasn’t lost a step and IQ wise he was a far better fighter than he was in the lower weight classes.1. Floyd wasn't at his best when he returned in 09. He was past his prime by then. He was in his 30s.
2. MANNY is to blame. Floyd adjusted the offer to give Manny the money he wanted, which would've been record breaking at the time, and was going to immediately wire Manny $20 mil. That's what MANNY wanted. Manny still turned the offer down because he didn't want to be tested for PEDS. Any other athlete on earth and he'd be shamed and ostracized for that. Only racists ism and hatred against Floyd keeps Manny from being properly chastised for that strangely odd and su****ious decision.
And before you say it's opinion, even though it's not, Freddie Roach himself is on camera saying Manny turned the fight down because he didn't want to be tested.
3. The fight happened AFTER Manny finally agreed to testing. Coincidentally AFTER Freddie was talking about seeing weaknesses in Floyd and his legs being shot. It was always manny's fault it didn't happen earlier. He's been strategic about who he fights, when he fights them, and how he fights them. ATG but people blatantly ignore how strategic he was in picking opponents.
Secondly, both are too blame. Only a fanboy on either side would disagree and believe one of the two are solely to blame.
You may have just shown your hand...Comment
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No. He wasn't unquestionably better. He was out of his prime and slower. He did one steps which is why he hunkered down defensively. He simply adapted. He said he got older himself.Floyd was unquestionably in his prime in 2009. He hasn’t lost a step and IQ wise he was a far better fighter than he was in the lower weight classes.
Secondly, both are too blame. Only a fanboy on either side would disagree and believe one of the two are solely to blame.
You may have just shown your hand...
No, only one is to blame. A fanboy would ignore the truth and keep spouting nonsense. I showed that I've been following every little detail of the situation. You're just talking out your neck with nothing to back it up other than you don't want to point out your idol Manny was wrong.Comment
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State of this fanboy man...No. He wasn't unquestionably better. He was out of his prime and slower. He did one steps which is why he hunkered down defensively. He simply adapted. He said he got older himself.
No, only one is to blame. A fanboy would ignore the truth and keep spouting nonsense. I showed that I've been following every little detail of the situation. You're just talking out your neck with nothing to back it up other than you don't want to point out your idol Manny was wrong.
How was he not in his prime in 2009? His performance against Marquez was f***ing flawless.
I said he was unquestionably in his prime. At 32 after dominating an elite fighter like Marquez it’s pretty much a fact or do I need to point out he was still the best fighter in the world 6 years later. Learn how read coherently kid...
I’ve literally said I think Mayweather would’ve have won regardless. Yet you take issue and claim Pacquiao is my idol because I blamed both May and Pac for the fight not happening. You sad b**tard...
They were clearly both responsible, both camps made demands that resulted in the fight not happening as soon as it should have. Both are responsible whichever way you wanna spin it.
No offence but I ain’t going back and forth with some kid who’s fanboyism prevents him from being objective about a situation that is over a decade old. I ain’t even gonna read your next post cause it will no doubt be more fanboy BS, so you’re only wasting your own time by typing it.
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Lmao I stopped reading right there! You ignored all the facts I posted to try to argue something random and incorrect: Floyd being at his best during his 30s.
Fanatics like you always try to twist up arguments and ignore the facts. Distractions, Misinformation, and Deflection. Classic tactics.
Now, you said both were to blame. I broke down the history of why that fight didn't happen earlier. I did not make that up. You can pull up everything I said AND THEN SOME.
Are you going top take those facts and correct yourself or are you going to keep trying Distractions, Misinformation, and Deflection tactics?Comment
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Its obvious Manny and or Arum derailed the fight, how was Floyd supposed to know Manny would walk away because of testing, no other fighter in history would say no fight because of advanced Ped testing.Lmao I stopped reading right there! You ignored all the facts I posted to try to argue something random and incorrect: Floyd being at his best during his 30s.
Fanatics like you always try to twist up arguments and ignore the facts. Distractions, Misinformation, and Deflection. Classic tactics.
Now, you said both were to blame. I broke down the history of why that fight didn't happen earlier. I did not make that up. You can pull up everything I said AND THEN SOME.
Are you going top take those facts and correct yourself or are you going to keep trying Distractions, Misinformation, and Deflection tactics?
Then who actually made the fight meaning went to Manny face to face and said lets go, what did Manny actually do himself to make a Mayweather fight, absolutely nothing other than sue them wtf .
Hindsight is 20/20 vision anybody that sits their today and says Floyd stopped that fight form happening in 2010 is a moron. After the BS court case they both started playing games around the fight, but in the beginning it was all Manny-Arums fault why it didnt happen, I dont blame Manny he was a puppet but Arum knew more than anyone Floyd would have killed his goose that laid the golden egg, thats why it didnt happen until Arum had milked Manny out.Comment
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Neither will be ''forgotten''. Come on now
May beat Pac rather easily.
May has a significantly superior WW+ resume, possibly a better overall resume as well.
May has never been KO'd while fighting plenty of people known to KO opponents
Pac for the most part, has feasted on lame-o's
May is the better fighter, not the more popular one.
WGAF about popularity
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