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Pacquiao fans: Why did he fight David Diaz at 135 instead of Nate Campbell?

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  • #51
    Originally posted by mlac View Post
    This thead is getting even more pathetic / hilarious
    Lockdown boxing for ya...

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    • #52
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
      It takes two to tango, Diaz has featured in two HBO PPV headliners whichever way you wanna spin it.

      Let it go brother...
      Can you tell me the numbers of those PPV headliners?

      When you make a good point I concede, such as when you say why would Pac fight Campbell when he could fight De La Hoya. Or when someone says why would Pac fight Baby Bull when he could rematch JMM.

      Those are rock solid arguments.

      But telling me that David Diaz was a bigger money fight than Campbell without any proof, or comparing that somehow to Floyd-Gatti, isn't cutting it.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by mlac View Post
        This thead is getting even more pathetic / hilarious
        My biggest fan has shown up. I'm sure he'll add some objective comments to the mix.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
          How did he choose David Diaz above Campbell if the Diaz fight was already agreed before Campbell was even champion? You’ve literally contradicted yourself within the same post.

          Saying Pacquiao ducked Nate Campbell is worse than saying Mayweather ducked Paul Williams.
          No contradiction whatsoever, just your myopia in overdrive.

          I said that the winner of Campbell vs Juan Diaz was never an option.

          That Pac avoided EITHER of them in favor of David Diaz who was inferior to BOTH.

          That shouldn't have been difficult for you to understand.

          Campbell beat Baby Bull for the unified (WBA, IBF, WBO) A WEEK BEFORE David Diaz beat Montano on the Pac-JMM undercard.

          There's no reason why Pac couldn't have fought Campbell next.

          He chose the easier guy with one belt over a guy with three titles.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
            Pac never intended to fight Nate Campbell or Juan Diaz.

            David Diaz was promised a fight vs Pac BEFORE his fight with Montano on the undercard of the second JMM vs Pac fight. All he had to do was win, which he did by majority decision.

            All this speculation about Campbell being unavailable due to a fight with Guzman is also nonsense- Campbell had just won the title and was allowed a non-mandatory defense.

            Pac chose David Diaz instead of tougher competition against Campbell, who held unified titles.

            Period.

            So what’s wrong with taking on Diaz 1st then Campbell later? Both held titles and Diaz fight was easier to make, way easier.

            There’s also a reason why Campbell-Guzman was made. Guzman was also chasing after Pac. So why would Guzman go for Campbell if he doesn’t think Pac-Campbell wasn’t possible in the future?

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            • #56
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
              My biggest fan has shown up. I'm sure he'll add some objective comments to the mix.
              Your fan? Well yeah thats true i do enjoy reading your complete drivel and having a laugh at your expense.

              I love how you actually expect " objective comments" to this car crash of a thread. ****ing lol.

              You should go back to making threads about how golovkin ducked the latin snake or how canelo is definately not a ped cheat. You complete and utter spastic.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan View Post
                So what’s wrong with taking on Diaz 1st then Campbell later? Both held titles and Diaz fight was easier to make, way easier.

                There’s also a reason why Campbell-Guzman was made. Guzman was also chasing after Pac. So why would Guzman go for Campbell if he doesn’t think Pac-Campbell wasn’t possible in the future?
                Clearly, Pac didn't fight Diaz "first".

                David Diaz was going to be his only fight at 135 on purpose.

                He fought Diaz because winning a title at 135 was the only objective- Manny never planned stick around at lightweight- all the big fights were at 147 and one or two at 140.

                He chose the easiest guy at the weight, one he could dominate.

                After the tough outings with JMM at 130, the last thing Pac wanted was a tough, skilled opponent at 135.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by mlac View Post
                  Your fan? Well yeah thats true i do enjoy reading your complete drivel and having a laugh at your expense.

                  I love how you actually expect " objective comments" to this car crash of a thread. ****ing lol.

                  You should go back to making threads about how golovkin ducked the latin snake or how canelo is definately not a ped cheat. You complete and utter spastic.
                  A GGG ball washer to boot. Nice.

                  Bet we can expect some good logic out of you.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                    Can you tell me the numbers of those PPV headliners?

                    When you make a good point I concede, such as when you say why would Pac fight Campbell when he could fight De La Hoya. Or when someone says why would Pac fight Baby Bull when he could rematch JMM.

                    Those are rock solid arguments.

                    But telling me that David Diaz was a bigger money fight than Campbell without any proof, or comparing that somehow to Floyd-Gatti, isn't cutting it.
                    No offence bro, but I can’t be assed looking trivial sh** like that up. I’m just taking straight off the dome.

                    Anyhow, regardless of numbers they are guaranteed to be more than the 0 PPV buys Nate Campbell did across his entire career.

                    D. Diaz was by no means a star but he was certainly a bigger name than Nate Campbell, that’s my point...

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
                      Clearly, Pac didn't fight Diaz "first".

                      David Diaz was going to be his only fight at 135 on purpose.

                      He fought Diaz because winning a title at 135 was the only objective- Manny never planned stick around at lightweight- all the big fights were at 147 and one or two at 140.

                      He chose the easiest guy at the weight, one he could dominate.

                      After the tough outings with JMM at 130, the last thing Pac wanted was a tough, skilled opponent at 135.
                      Diaz was his only fight on purpose? Wow such a bold statement. Are you reading his mind?

                      So you think Pac had his sights @ 147 already as soon as he stepped foot @ 135? Try to check out Pac’s interview after the Diaz about what he thought about moving to 147 at that time. I’m kinda lazy with posting links but you can search it yourself

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