Comments Thread For: Malignaggi: Utterly Ridiculous Guy As Good As Whyte Hasn't Had Heavyweight Title Shot

[Shadoww702]

Beating up on a 50 year old Ortiz coming off a brutal KO and for peanuts...Pass. For the record, Whyte sparks out Wilder rather easy. Watch Fury vs Wilder II and III and notice how easy it is to take Wilder apart.

He'll no!

Go back and watch Whyte vs. Wach... Fury ranked #1 Wach ranked #54

[Cool Scant]

Because Ortiz wants the fight right? If he wants the fight why is it that it was Whyte who was making him an offer? According to you Ortiz shouldn’t be accepting offers from Whyte. So you are contradicting yourself there. Whyte headlines is own PPV, he isn’t an undercard boxer like Ortiz, Ortiz even lost his last fight when he and Whyte were asked to do a “Secondary mandatory” the one you and your uneducated colleagues referred to as “Final eliminator” thus backing the corrupted organisation over the boxer. The same boxer who has been ranked number 1 for almost 3 years, but when it comes to mandating him some how someone else gets mandated. If the guy was American and loved by you all, you would be on here crying like the self entitled citizens that you lot are.

Fact is Whyte was overlooked because of shady, corrupt organisation, you trying to sidetrack that shows how most of you guys aren’t really boxing fans. I can put my dislike for a boxer aside and question things like this. You guys are so dumb in that aspect that you look like ******s when we read your post.

Whyte turning down Pulev and AJ has zero to do with the WBC shady dealings, Thise are separate things. Not linked and anyone trying to link it are either dumb haters or they don’t know much about boxing.

Dan RAFEAL isn’t my uneducated colleague. He’s the one that printed an article stating that the wbc ordered Ortiz v Whyte in a final Eliminator. The “second mandatory” phrase is just an excuse for Whyte to duck ortiz. If Whyte would’ve beat ortiz he would’ve got his shot after Breazeale. Instead ortiz got two title shot while Whyte is pretending he wants to fight for a championship.

Nobody ever said ortiz wanted to fight Whyte! You’re a slow guy. Whyte is a nobody on the world stage Ortiz doesn’t need to send Whyte an offer.

U say Whyte isn’t an undercard boxer but he was on Ruiz’s undercard his last fight 🤦🏽*♂️ Ruiz also let Whyte know that he doesn’t need Whyte either but I digress

[Cool Scant]

Exactly.. Contradicting yourself lol you claimed Whyte ducked Ortiz , then claimed Ortiz (The undercard fighter with one relevant win) doesn't need Whyte (The PPV fighter who headline his own card and made an offer to Ortiz)..

So there is NO way the undercard fighter can be ducked.




That's if you are still sticking yours in your a** Because you are exposed as fake news.

you’re the dumb one you keep mistaking lying for exposing fake news. It’s a known fact that Whyte ducked two final eliminators with ortiz pretending that’s it didn’t happen isn’t going to change the facts.

And it’s not a contradiction that ortiz doesn’t need Whyte. The main goal is championships and title shots. Ortiz has two title shots Whyte has none. You claim whyte is a POV fights but ortiz last fight was the headliner meanwhile Whyte for a old geezer on the undercard in a desert of a country who commits numerous human rights violations till this day TILL THIS DAY!

[Ray*]

lol it’s real juvenile to pretend Whyte didn’t turn down final eliminators when everyone knows he did. I didn’t even mention Pulev and AJ in my post you quoted.

Again you are all bark and no substance. And you know it. Show us where Whyte turned down "Final eliminators" from the WBC. The only one triggered and salty here is you.

You obviously got triggered by my post in page 1, because it made people like you look like idiots with your fake news and backing for a corrupt organisation.

You yourself has admitted that Whyte didn't duck Ortiz, and you are too dumb to even see it. You kept saying Ortiz shouldn't be making offers to Whyte, and Ortiz shouldn't be accepting offers from Whyte.

You even went as far to lie that Whyte offered Ortiz 250K
and you still haven't provided any prove that Whyte ducked the WBC eliminator.

The only prove you got his the Pulev and AJ which had nothing to do with the shady WBC. This is too easy, schooling dumbos like yourselves is easy money.

[Ray*]

It’s a known fact that Whyte ducked two final eliminators with ortiz pretending that’s it didn’t happen isn’t going to change the facts.

And it’s not a contradiction that ortiz doesn’t need Whyte. The main goal is championships and title shots. Ortiz has two title shots Whyte has none. !

Again provide those two final eliminators (Those facts). If its a fact then you should be able to provided them. Let me tell you buddy hate doesn't = Facts.

Ortiz had two title shots because Wilder wanted to duck Whyte and AJ, am happy for you. We real boxing fans wanted to see fights against all comers, you idiots are happy supporting ducking and corrupt organisations.

You NOT even ashamed..."Ortiz had two title shot" "Whyte had none" lol...Gosh, fanboyism taken to the next level..

[Ray*]

Dan RAFEAL isn’t my uneducated colleague. He’s the one that printed an article stating that the wbc ordered Ortiz v Whyte in a final Eliminator. The “second mandatory” phrase is just an excuse for Whyte to duck ortiz. If Whyte would’ve beat ortiz he would’ve got his shot after Breazeale.

We getting somewhere and no you are the uneducated one NOT Fat dan, Fat dan cannot teach you reading comprehension.

So then show us the where Whyte ducked that great offer from Team Ortiz for the Secondary mandatory.

[-Kev-]

What I don’t get is how can Malignaggi have so much praise for such an average boxer but then sh/ts on Pacquiao, sh/ts on McGregor, and sh/ts on other good fighters?

I respect Malignaggi and what he accomplished, and he’s a really good analyst but he needs to be fair across the board.

[Ray*]

https://www.boxingscene.com/whyte-fi...datory--127789


British heavyweight contender Dillian Whyte is not going to walk away without a fight.

He wants what he believes is an earned mandatory shot at the WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder.

The World Boxing Council recently ordered Whyte to fight Luis Ortiz in a clash for a "secondary mandatory" position - while proclaiming that Dominic Breazeale would be Wilder's mandatory challenger.

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According to Whyte's promoter, Eddie Hearn of Matchroom, they plan to fight the WBC's recent set of orders.

Whyte has held the number 1 position in the rankings for a very long time, went through eliminators and owns the WBC silver title.

Despite all of that, Whyte was overlooked in favor of the number 2 contender - which was Breazeale.

"We're going to appeal that. [WBC president] Mauricio Sulaiman said he would talk about it this week, and maybe post a resolution," Hearn exclusively told Sky Sports.

"If [Anthony] Joshua doesn't fight Wilder, then Wilder will fight Breazeale. If Wilder fights Breazeale, he doesn't need to be the mandatory. But Wilder's team will want Breazeale to be the mandatory because there isn't much credibility in the fight. Let that fight be a voluntary, then the winner of Whyte-Ortiz is the mandatory."

According to Hearn, there is no issue in facing Ortiz - as long as the contest is sanctioned to be a mandatory fight - and not a secondary mandatory.

"We don't mind fighting Ortiz but it has to be for the mandatory, not to be the 'second mandatory' behind a guy who has never fought an eliminator and who is behind Whyte in the rankings. It's outrageous," Hearn said.

But, there is also the possibility of Whyte fighting Kubrat Pulev in an IBF final eliminator, with a purse bid scheduled next week.

And that contest has certain benefits when compared to a contest with Ortiz - because the winner would become the mandatory to Joshua.

"It's a good fight. Dillian can become IBF mandatory and that's a good place for him to be," Hearn said.

"[Promoter Kalle Sauerland] has Pulev and we're in extensive dialogue to make the fight. I don't think me and Kalle have ever been to a purse bid - usually we make a deal! Different fights have different characteristics to the deal."

[Ray*]

Am so glad Paulie M is around, this guy is exposing all this corrupt organisation. Imagine if everyone lay in the same direction? He says it as he sees it, the corruption is plain to see from the WBC. The man has been the number one ranked HW contender for over 2 and half years and no one should talk? Thank Goodness he isn't a paid shill like the rest.

[Kannabis Kid]

Whether you fight a 'recognised' Champion or you're fighting for a vacant title. A shot at a world title is by definition a world title shot.

I can see how both Stiverne and Breazeale got their first title shots in this era (that wasn't my point).

It's their 2nd title shots as WBC mando's that formed the basis of my initial post.

These no doubt would be a source of frustration to Whyte given he was given mandatory status after defeating Helenius back in 2017.

This is why I wrote he's clearly been an afterthought by the WBC because the likes of Breazeale clearly jumped the queue.

Yes you say Breazeale scored 3 consecutive KO's after the AJ defeat. Compare that to Whyte's straight 11 victories since his AJ defeat and it's no comparison as to who is more deserving.

The WBC clearly protected Wilder from Whyte, there's no other rationale. If Wilder really fancied the Whyte fight like he did Breazeale and Ortiz he'd have made it along with a career high pay day at the time.

This is why my initial posts referenced 2 shots and not 1 and the fact he's been overlooked by the WBC more than once.

I don't agree with his insufferable moaning and I'm not even a fan of his but I stand by what I wrote. The fact that the likes of Molina, Stiverne and Breazeale have all had 2 shots each must drive him mad, especially given the fact they've ALL 3 have fought for the WBC.

To me Ortiz is a better fighter than Whyte and was fighting the same competition so the first fight with Ortiz was warranted I don't think the WBC were protecting Wilder by letting him fight Ortiz and the rematch well Wilder was losing that fight too until he caught Ortiz so it's not like it was a easy fight it was an interim fight before the Fury rematch.

Now that Fury is the champ and there is rematch clause and now the COVID he is going to be waiting another year or more lol he should have just gone the AJ route. I though he was also reinstated as the WBC interim champ he will face the winner of the rematch eventually probably after a Joshua unification lol.

Aside from that he lost that first Chisora fight and his fight was Rivas should be a NC but yeah I gave him credit for beating Lucas Browne and Joseph Parker as well as knocking out Chisora the 2nd time he definitely deserves a shot but politics of boxing man Wilder and Fury are bigger stars and that is what is lined up at the moment Fury isn't fighting in the UK anytime soon and nobody knows who Dillian Whyte is in the United States.