Comments Thread For: Malignaggi: Utterly Ridiculous Guy As Good As Whyte Hasn't Had Heavyweight Title Shot

[factsarenice]

Beating up on a 50 year old Ortiz coming off a brutal KO and for peanuts...Pass. For the record, Whyte sparks out Wilder rather easy. Watch Fury vs Wilder II and III and notice how easy it is to take Wilder apart.

Whyte offered ortiz $250K to headline a ppv. Ortiz got $375K to fight on wilder undercard. Meanwhile Whyte paid Del Boy 7 figures for the same PPV. Whyte lowballed ortiz because he didn’t want to fight.

Why does ortiz need to send Whyte an offer. Whyte is a nobody ortiz didn’t need Whyte to get a title shot... he got two without him. Whyte needed ortiz to get the shot. If Whyte wanted to fight for the title he would’ve fought ortiz in the two final eliminators or paid ortiz the money that he paid Del Boy.. simple

[Ant1979]

Some of these guys think if you don’t back the shaddiness of the WBC in this case, it meant you are picking Whyte to beat Wilder. They cannot get their heads around the fact that some are just pointing out the corruption of the WBC. Like you pointed out Breazeale has had 3/4 fights since he lost to AJ, Whyte has had 11 fights in the same exact period.

That's exactly it, and as a boxing fan I would have much sooner seen Wilder vs Whyte over and above the Molina's, Stiverne's, Breazeale's and Szpilka's of this world.

The fight could easily have been made as a voluntary or mando. But if you question the integrity of the WBC and indeed Wilder, fanboys go into complete and utter denial.

[Ray*]

That's exactly it, and as a boxing fan I would have much sooner seen Wilder vs Whyte over and above the Molina's, Stiverne's, Breazeale's and Szpilka's of this world.

The fight could easily have been made as a voluntary or mando. But if you question the integrity of the WBC and indeed Wilder, fanboys go into complete and utter denial.

Now all of a sudden Paulie M is "British" and bias, I mean am sure Paulie is just referring to the WBC side of things and not the fact that Whyte turn down the Joshua rematch for April 2019.

At the end of the day i agree with Paulie M, especially when you know Whyte was number 1 ranked at the time that Ortiz, Breazeale, Fury (Twice) all got their shot as mandatory or voluntary at the belt.

But the number 1 guy sits there and no shot. And some idiot tried to play it off like its Whyte's fault. Whne it comes to the WBC its strictly the WBC's fault and no one else.

[Ant1979]

Now all of a sudden Paulie M is "British" and bias, I mean am sure Paulie is just referring to the WBC side of things and not the fact that Whyte turn down the Joshua rematch for April 2019.

At the end of the day i agree with Paulie M, especially when you know Whyte was number 1 ranked at the time that Ortiz, Breazeale, Fury (Twice) all got their shot as mandatory or voluntary at the belt.

But the number 1 guy sits there and no shot. And some idiot tried to play it off like its Whyte's fault. Whne it comes to the WBC its strictly the WBC's fault and no one else.

Again, I agree when you look at how Whyte became official mandatory back in 2017 it's difficult for even WBC staff to justify Wilder avoiding him while still remaining active for so many fights.

By highlighting that point it doesn't make you pro British or pro Whyte, just shows you as being pro boxing, which Paulie obviously is.

The fact that Whyte could have pursued a voluntary with AJ is completely by the by and no way a justification for the WBC constantly overlooking him. One thing has nothing to do with the other.

Granted, he's not everyones cup of tea but there's no denying he's paid his dues to the WBC.

[REDEEMER]

Weird that boxing insiders don’t follow what’s going on half the time ,it makes them look bad at times to those who do . There’s nothing that baffling when you know Whyte declined his title shot with A.J , you can’t say anything after that about deserving one he was offered one ,the situation then is on the fighter .

On top of that they should know the rules in a certain boxing organization before giving an opinion to get it right . Wilder had faced a mandatory in Breazeale , Whyte was the silver belt champion ,that requires to win a final elimination bout. He took on Helenius to win that , he then had crazy failed test that were retracted but that doesn’t effect the Fury situation so from 2018 to now , Fury was put as the mandatory which wouldn’t really matter because they agreed to a 3 fight deal .

Yes Wilder could have fought him instead of Ortiz but that’s a choice , Whyte not getting a title shot is on him , Wilder actually isn’t relevant, it’s A.J who Whyte said no to ,that’s a title shot so you can’t cry and complain about stuff that was actually offered to you and it came with a rematch claus without Whyte being a champion which is crazy , pretty simple stuff .

[Cool Scant]

Beating up on a 50 year old Ortiz coming off a brutal KO and for peanuts...Pass. For the record, Whyte sparks out Wilder rather easy. Watch Fury vs Wilder II and III and notice how easy it is to take Wilder apart.

whyte lowballed ortiz before the second wilder fight. In a ko loss Ortiz looked better than POVElkin did against a bum in hunter. Whyte has no issues fighting 50 year old unless it’s ortiz. Whyte is fighting to 50 year old back to back in wach and Povetkin. Whyte is currently on a seniors tour that nobody wants to talk about

[Cool Scant]

That’s what I thought, when pushed you have all bark no substance. So no offer was made, nothing was ducked just another fake news. Ortiz doesn’t make any offer because Whyte has nothing to offer lol..... Whyte wanted Wilder he made offers to him, Wilder ducked those offers and fought for less. Now that’s a duck. Not fake news like your opinions. GTFOH newbie..

you people talk tough but when someone retaliates you’re quick to complain lick b****** and get them banned. That why I’m taking it easy.

What you’re saying makes no sense. Whyte is the only one in the equation that needed someone... Ortiz! That’s why whyte was the only one making offers to Ortiz.

Don’t get triggered sweetheart because Whyte has turned down the most title opportunities in the history of the division.

Wilder made Whyte an offer: sign a one fight deal with the pbc and Whyte refused.

Wilder told Whyte give me $7M to fight him in the uk as a mandatory and Whyte refused.

Wilder said he’d fight Whyte in the UK as long as the contract states he’d fight AJ next if he won and Hearn refused, although Joshua v Klitschko was signed prior to AJ beating Molina 🤦🏽*♂️

Lastly but not least Whyte ducked two final eliminators with ortiz.

How many opportunities do you want Whyte two receive? If you add in the fact that he ducked AJ and Pulev it’s obvious that Whyte isn’t interested in fighting for a title of any kind. Only mentally deranged people keep defending this guy.

[Cool Scant]

Now all of a sudden Paulie M is "British" and bias, I mean am sure Paulie is just referring to the WBC side of things and not the fact that Whyte turn down the Joshua rematch for April 2019.

At the end of the day i agree with Paulie M, especially when you know Whyte was number 1 ranked at the time that Ortiz, Breazeale, Fury (Twice) all got their shot as mandatory or voluntary at the belt.

But the number 1 guy sits there and no shot. And some idiot tried to play it off like its Whyte's fault. Whne it comes to the WBC its strictly the WBC's fault and no one else.

Stop crying the WBC ordered two final eliminators with ortiz and Whyte refused. Whyte and Hearn cried so much in the media and UK fans bullied asylum online so much that the WBC let Whyte pick his own opponent (Rivas) for a final Eliminator.

Also if Whyte wasn’t addicted to PEDS he wouldn’t have been passed up as a mandatory for fury. But I guess you’ll blame the WBC for Whyte using Dianabol and The UKAD situation

You brits still crying about wilder. Meanwhile Hearn isn’t even pushing for Whyte to get a title shot against fury. That’s because Whyte is a nobody. None of you people ever cared about Whyte getting a title shot. it was all wilder hate.

[Cool Scant]

Now all of a sudden Paulie M is "British" and bias, I mean am sure Paulie is just referring to the WBC side of things and not the fact that Whyte turn down the Joshua rematch for April 2019.

At the end of the day i agree with Paulie M, especially when you know Whyte was number 1 ranked at the time that Ortiz, Breazeale, Fury (Twice) all got their shot as mandatory or voluntary at the belt.

But the number 1 guy sits there and no shot. And some idiot tried to play it off like its Whyte's fault. Whne it comes to the WBC its strictly the WBC's fault and no one else.

I agree that the wilder Fight could’ve been made as a voluntary or mandatory. Unfortunately Whyte turned down every opportunity to be a voluntary and mandatory until the WBC let him cherry pick his final eliminator opponent in Rivas. Suliman letting Hearn Whyte and british fans bully him into letting Whyte pick his own opponent for the final Eliminator was a disgrace

[Cool Scant]

Now all of a sudden Paulie M is "British" and bias, I mean am sure Paulie is just referring to the WBC side of things and not the fact that Whyte turn down the Joshua rematch for April 2019.

At the end of the day i agree with Paulie M, especially when you know Whyte was number 1 ranked at the time that Ortiz, Breazeale, Fury (Twice) all got their shot as mandatory or voluntary at the belt.

But the number 1 guy sits there and no shot. And some idiot tried to play it off like its Whyte's fault. Whne it comes to the WBC its strictly the WBC's fault and no one else.

That’s what I thought, when pushed you have all bark no substance. So no offer was made, nothing was ducked just another fake news. Ortiz doesn’t make any offer because Whyte has nothing to offer lol..... Whyte wanted Wilder he made offers to him, Wilder ducked those offers and fought for less. Now that’s a duck. Not fake news like your opinions. GTFOH newbie..

why does ortiz have to make Whyte an offer if the WBC ordered Ortiz v Whyte in two final eliminators and Whyte refused? Lol Whyte refusing to fight ortiz in two final eliminators is the only duck in this equation