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  • champion4ever
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    #61
    I can see a scenario where Tyson Fury wins the fight but loses the decision. There is no way an opponent is leaving that ring with Ali's title belts unless he brings ass to get ass and is also willing to trade, exchange and engage with the champ.

    Playing that herky jerky, keep away, running out the clock shit; While fighting off the back foot won't work against the greatest.

    However, if he brings that Kronk Gym style with him, then things could get very interesting but he will probably still get stopped anyway.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Squared.Circle
      It’s a no brainier...Fury 10 times out of 10. Fury is too big, too rangey and too strong.
      Hot Damn, I could see that you are still blowing and sucking off Tyson Fury proper

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        #63
        Originally posted by Thraxox
        LMAO. January 17 exactly with the exact amount of stats.

        Oleksandr Usyk: January 17
        Reach: 78
        Height: 6'3

        Muhammad Ali: January 17
        Reach:78
        Height: 6'3
        Most fans look at videos of Ali, Holmes, Frazier, etc, and see that they are significantly faster and throw more punches than modern day top HWs. What they don't take into account is that they are also significantly smaller, the same size as modern day CWs, as a matter of fact.

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        • Thraxox
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          #64
          Originally posted by kafkod
          Most fans look at videos of Ali, Holmes, Frazier, etc, and see that they are significantly faster and throw more punches than modern day top HWs. What they don't take into account is that they are also significantly smaller, the same size as modern day CWs, as a matter of fact.
          Its the same guys also that think Marchiano could beat Klitshchko. He is literally a LHW that the size of Beterbiev.

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            #65
            Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
            Ali was possibly the greatest heavyweight of all time (it’s between him and Louis), for the reasons you stated. To be specific, he had incredible ability, charisma, ring smarts and indomitable will. If he and Fury were comparable in size, I’d say Ali all day. But they’re not. Fury has many of his own talents, coupled with a huge frame. Given Ali’s style, and his relatively small stature, I just can’t see him beating this modern giant. Size is far from everything, but when you combine it with other factors, it can be a true advantage.
            That's very true, especially if a much bigger man is smart enough to know how to use his size to maximum advantage, which Fury is.

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              #66
              Originally posted by kafkod
              That's very true, especially if a much bigger man is smart enough to know how to use his size to maximum advantage, which Fury is.
              People like to point at someone like Tyson as an example of “size means nothing.” Well, it doesn’t mean nearly as much if you’re Mike Tyson, but how many of him are running around? Lol If Fury were a slow brute with no skills, that would be one thing, but he’s not. That towering height is a definite advantage in his hands.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Thraxox
                Its the same guys also that think Marchiano could beat Klitshchko. He is literally a LHW that the size of Beterbiev.
                Thinking about it .. with 48 hours to rehydrate after weighing in, The Rock probably could have made 175.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by kafkod
                  That's very true, especially if a much bigger man is smart enough to know how to use his size to maximum advantage, which Fury is.
                  Exactly. Fury isn't some big stiff idiot, he's got elite skills to go with his size.

                  Ali gets broken down and drowned.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                    People like to point at someone like Tyson as an example of “size means nothing.” Well, it doesn’t mean nearly as much if you’re Mike Tyson, but how many of him are running around? Lol If Fury were a slow brute with no skills, that would be one thing, but he’s not. That towering height is a definite advantage in his hands.
                    Mike Tyson was a one-off genetic anomaly. There has never been another guy built like him who could move and punch with such explosive force and accuracy. But would he have have been able to do what he did against opponents who were not only huge, but smart with it, like Fury, Lewis and the Klit bros?

                    I'm not sure about that. (I know Mike lost to Lennox, but I'm talking about prime Mike Tyson)
                    Last edited by kafkod; 05-04-2020, 02:05 PM.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by kafkod
                      Most fans look at videos of Ali, Holmes, Frazier, etc, and see that they are significantly faster and throw more punches than modern day top HWs. What they don't take into account is that they are also significantly smaller, the same size as modern day CWs, as a matter of fact.
                      Rumble in jungle: Foreman 220 lbs, Ali 216 lbs

                      Those are heavyweights.

                      Look, even Cunningham dropped Fury. Lets not pretend like Fury is some monster.

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